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Old 31st Mar 2023, 01:21
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Originally Posted by magenta magnet
don't forget the roughly 30% tax, excluding 401k deductions etc etc

and commuting, which will kill you.. never commute
What commuting are you referring to? If within the US, then itíll be probably easy
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Old 14th Apr 2023, 12:54
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Hi guys,

I sent my application to CX about 2 months ago and got an email for flight hours the last month and replied to that. Can anyone give me some idea about the recruitment timeline and assessment?
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Old 14th Apr 2023, 14:04
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All our staff are quitting, so your email may not be replied to promptly.

If you have a license, genuine hours, and can pass a medical expect a call back within the next CoS or 2. However, if you have 4000hrs+ total time, including 1500+ multi jet, then expect a much quicker call...
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Old 14th Apr 2023, 15:32
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Thanks for letting me know that. Much appreciated.
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Old 14th Apr 2023, 21:39
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Originally Posted by numichem
Thanks for letting me know that. Much appreciated.

Bekol is taking the proverbial. Sadly heís right.
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Old 16th Apr 2023, 10:58
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I mistakenly read DFO interview. Not sure why I did that.
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Old 16th Apr 2023, 19:11
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History Repeats

We've gone from A-Scale, to B-scale, then C and so on, to where we are today. Im not having a go at the guys who accepted their conditions, but what is on offer is trending in one direction only. Once the target hours hits 70-80, that'll be it. Over the course of 12 months, no chance to fly additional hours without exceeding the annual limit, so it will just be base salary + per diems for the rest of your CX career
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Old 16th Apr 2023, 23:51
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.........feel like a spoon feeding? If so you'll be one of the ones that can't hack training.......
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........... What is the point in prepping for selection interviews/tests ? If you have read the book about how to pass the interview, practiced likely scenarios in a sim hired jointly by others others (loads did that !), got all the answers to the dreaded "Tech Quiz" and practiced over at least ten of them, you are demonstrating excellent desire but Selection teams prefer unrehearsed candidates. It gives a better picture of likely success.

Having served on Selection Boards, we were all unimpressed with those, clearly practiced or had the answers. During my schooling, it was called cheating.
Seems a bit harsh. A good pilot thinks ahead, plans and mitigates risk, so I am not sure if you can really criticise a pilot for employing the same methodology to try to secure a job offer.

I would say it's called being prepared.

The one time I stupidly did not prepare for a pilot interview, relying instead on knowing that I had the skills and experience; I did not do so well and surprise surprise, did not get a job offer. Some years later, when I tried the same airline again, I passed - but I made sure that I had prepared that time.

This OP is probably not asking for the actual answers, but it is useful to know if there will be tech questions or : "tell us about a time when......" or "which do you prefer: guns or poetry?".
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Old 17th Apr 2023, 07:44
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I also believe it is better to prepare for an interview, as the old adage - Fail to prepare, Prepare to fail is so true in these situations. Preparing for an interview also shows you are resourceful and are prepared to spend a little time to ensure that you succeed at a given task, which will show that would likely be better placed to succeed at a type rating as your prepared to go the extra mile to fully understand something.
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Old 17th Apr 2023, 10:54
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It was only the RAF that informed me, years later in "preparing" for a side career in selection, that candidates who were "unprepared" for the selection tests and succeeded , were later proved to be a safer bet for success in training.

My third attempt for RAF selection saw me "prepare" by practicing on Brighton pier for the co-ordination tests. For mechanics I read "how Cars Work". A C Comode's "Flight without formulae" was a delight. Quick chat about the Leadership tests with a neighbour up the road (retired RAF Group Captain) where he informed me to just make sure I was noticed. "Get out in front in every group discussion and exercise" were words ringing in my ears as I swung on the end of a rope barking out orders all over the place to everyone. I was offered a place at RAF Cranwell.

It is one thing to "prepare" and another to become so informed as to whizz through selection tests because you are "practiced" and "rehearsed"., thus giving the Selection Board a likely false impression, risking their training investment.

For intense and competitive selection , it helps if you know someone.
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Old 17th Apr 2023, 18:48
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When I was on B707s in late 70s with KAC I was told way to get job with CX was just to turn but I never bothered.

Many years later as a B767 Captain I applied to ASL as DEC but either the ginger haired Kiwi did not like me or Bells ringing from ECG machine I was unsuccessful which was a blessing in some respects as DEC on A340 with SIA turned better for my last 6 years before retirement.

Hi Gordo. Regards to Julie
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Old 18th Apr 2023, 09:38
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Regards indeed Sir. For the CX thread, looks like you missed nothing and your ASL experience shows no consideration of your ability or value. And, CX are masters at using the medical dept to reject where others would issue you a Class one., as SIA did.

I did turn up for my first attempt with CX and pretended I played Badminton and liked boats.. I didn't go as far as a DanAir bod who actually found out where the CP lived and knocked on his door. He was sent away with a flea in his ear and long lecture about a man's home being his castle etc !

The only Lodge I was a member of was the UK Travel Lodge frequent stayer club but the CX Board were not impressed . Like you, saved. Had a glorious career elsewhere.
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Old 18th Apr 2023, 13:25
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Old 19th Apr 2023, 16:40
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Originally Posted by Gordomac
Regards indeed Sir. For the CX thread, looks like you missed nothing and your ASL experience shows no consideration of your ability or value. And, CX are masters at using the medical dept to reject where others would issue you a Class one., as SIA did.

I did turn up for my first attempt with CX and pretended I played Badminton and liked boats.. I didn't go as far as a DanAir bod who actually found out where the CP lived and knocked on his door. He was sent away with a flea in his ear and long lecture about a man's home being his castle etc !

The only Lodge I was a member of was the UK Travel Lodge frequent stayer club but the CX Board were not impressed . Like you, saved. Had a glorious career elsewhere.
For someone who failed (on, it would appear, several occasions, despite sitting on selection boards for other carriers and utilising your very own preparation methods) to get in to CX or that other excrescence ASL ( where the sole provisos were a willingness to screw over another pilotsí seniority, and a pulse) you do seem to enjoy lurking on the FH forum Gordo ? Illustrious career or not.

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Old 20th Apr 2023, 10:16
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Aaaaah, Glob, ooops, I mean Menelaus or whatever pseudonym, true to character, you choose to hide behind; "Sole provisos" shows distinct inability to recognise commerce.

I was wondering why you were not lining up for personal attack on all my posts for some time now. Popped on the green tinted raybands again have we.?

I "lurk"" around FH for many reasons but, in part, for this sort of hand-bag swing from someone with very limited and tainted vision who wouldn't even get past the basic form-filling stage of any selection board I served on. Still, quite entertaining.

ASL was an excellent commercial idea and was, in early stage, to operate quite separately although, of course, not quite independently from CX mainline. For many "Commercial" pilots, a backdoor into mainline might have appeared. It did, and they wound up flying CX mainline.

Hard, tough playing field out in the real world of commercial flying. Shame you have not wised up.
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Old 20th Apr 2023, 12:32
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Havenít worn ĎRaybandsí green tinted or otherwise in years thank you. And the reason that I havenít commented on some of your posts is that a) they were generally too riddled with narcissism and b) I couldnít be arsed.
Do some research on ASL when you get off the sun lounger. That particular experiment cost CX millions, in lost good will and general antipathy. As a commercial experiment, it certainly failed the acid test.
Maybe pop down to your local library with your bus pass and rip a few pages out of a few books ? Youíre good at that.
You take care now.
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Old 21st Apr 2023, 10:04
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Manyflaws; Thanks. Oh dear though, still croaking away, hand-bags at dawn. and confirmation of one of the reasons I still "lurk" about FH.

I try to advise on many posts on different threads and continue by suggesting you let the page-ripping go. Indeed, best to let go of all past events that clearly have left you very riled, agitated and confused. Dangerous underlying conditions in recent years.

For this CX thread, good luck to all who seek entry into the once mighty CX. Not the same now and might be easier. Remember, as a "Commercial " pilot, forget what's painted on the side of an aeroplane. Play the hardball game, stay street wise and you will come out on top...........................much to the irritation and envy of many, clearly............................
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Old 21st Apr 2023, 14:32
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Ray bans are awesome. I was always surprised at the negative feeling in this company towards them. Must be some leftover from the movie top-gun or something.
Just wear what you like, who gives a hoot.
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Old 9th Aug 2023, 06:16
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Any recommendations for the final assessment in Hong Kong? Or does anyone know what it's about?
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Old 20th Aug 2023, 13:26
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Hi! What are the assessment process for DEFO now in CX? Does it have TKE exam if you are already experience? And what are the other process aside from Sim Eval and Medical? Thanks
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