Some food for thought...
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Some food for thought...
Hello to all !
Being one of my first posts in here ( I guess a bit of a veteran in some other forums
) , I wish to ask the very qualified and intellectual fellow colleagues some questions which have recently arisen during a conversation or two :
1) I have heard that the A340 has vortex generators on its engine nacelles - Is this true, and why are they in place ?
2) Is there a specific reason why the A340 has only double slotted fowler flaps whereas the 747-400 has triple slotted fowlers ? My initial reasoning on this is that due to the 747 having a wing sweep angle of 37.5 deg, in comparison to 30 deg sweep angle on the Airbus fleet, then this would account for the fact that with more sweep, a higher angle of incidence (angle of attack) is required to achieve the same given amount of lift as per a straight wing - or in this case the A340 with less sweep angle ? On this note, I do undestand that the slotted sections on these HLD are primarily in place to re-energise the Boundary Layer airflow over the trailing edge section of the wing, thus reducing drag ; increasing stall speeds, allowing the aircraft to approach at a lower speed on approach...etc..etc...
Your help in these areas would be much appreciated...
PS : I do have an upcoming interview in Hong Kong and would also appreciate any further advice as to the whole process, such as typical questions being asked and the process itself.
Once again, many thanks in advance,
A keen, future CX employee
Being one of my first posts in here ( I guess a bit of a veteran in some other forums
) , I wish to ask the very qualified and intellectual fellow colleagues some questions which have recently arisen during a conversation or two :1) I have heard that the A340 has vortex generators on its engine nacelles - Is this true, and why are they in place ?
2) Is there a specific reason why the A340 has only double slotted fowler flaps whereas the 747-400 has triple slotted fowlers ? My initial reasoning on this is that due to the 747 having a wing sweep angle of 37.5 deg, in comparison to 30 deg sweep angle on the Airbus fleet, then this would account for the fact that with more sweep, a higher angle of incidence (angle of attack) is required to achieve the same given amount of lift as per a straight wing - or in this case the A340 with less sweep angle ? On this note, I do undestand that the slotted sections on these HLD are primarily in place to re-energise the Boundary Layer airflow over the trailing edge section of the wing, thus reducing drag ; increasing stall speeds, allowing the aircraft to approach at a lower speed on approach...etc..etc...
Your help in these areas would be much appreciated...
PS : I do have an upcoming interview in Hong Kong and would also appreciate any further advice as to the whole process, such as typical questions being asked and the process itself.
Once again, many thanks in advance,
A keen, future CX employee
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His fearsome knowledge will get him the job...his ability to operate in typhoon conditions will keep him alive. Give him a break, he's obviously just trying to gather up some info to better his chances.
His fearsome knowledge will get him the job...his ability to operate in typhoon conditions will keep him alive. Give him a break, he's obviously just trying to gather up some info to better his chances.
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#1, yes there are. I think it is something like a 2% fuel penalty if they are not there. They are only about 6 inches high, and 12 inches long.
#2, Your answer sounds reasonable enough.
#2, Your answer sounds reasonable enough.
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This is how I prepared and did well on the interview:
-How to Prepeare for Your CX Interview by CA's X, Y and Z.
-Flying the Big Jets by CA Davies.
-Illustrated Book of Aerodynamics by Skip Smith.
-Study of tropical WX patterns and particulars about typhoons, windshear, vulcanic ash and depressions.
-If you are American, study ICAO holdings, Metar and other peculiarities and differences.
-Knowledge of current airplane.
-Some knowledge of the 744 (if applying for NA cargo)
Good luck!
-How to Prepeare for Your CX Interview by CA's X, Y and Z.
-Flying the Big Jets by CA Davies.
-Illustrated Book of Aerodynamics by Skip Smith.
-Study of tropical WX patterns and particulars about typhoons, windshear, vulcanic ash and depressions.
-If you are American, study ICAO holdings, Metar and other peculiarities and differences.
-Knowledge of current airplane.
-Some knowledge of the 744 (if applying for NA cargo)
Good luck!
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the 744 has a higher mtow than the 340. it follows too that it has a higher mlw. at the same thrust setting, the heavier aircraft will have to fly at a higher aoa to generate the same lift. furthermore, the MAXcl should be increased to enable the aircraft to fly at slower approach speeds, and MAXcl is a function of aoa. the higher the aoa, the greater the need to energize the boundary layer, to create turbulent flow and thus delay separation within the boundary layer.
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Thank you all for your replies ! They proved very helpful and in some cases rather amusing..... 
In terms of preparation for the CX Final Interview things I have researched/used as reference/study material include :
* Handling The Big jets
* Captain's XYZ ( very useful source of information)
* Mechanics of Flight (university reference book)
* The Jet Engine (Rolls Royce)
* Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators ( another uni reference source)
* ATPL Theory notes (once again, thanks Nathan - great course)
* Consultation with friends in CX and those recently interviewed
*Hours of Research online ( CX website, Boeing, Airbus, Rolls
Royce, General Electric...etc...etc..etc...)
* Heaps of Info online about Hong Kong in general, associated weather phenomena, climate etc..etc..etc...
... then finally accessing all the above info in terms of roughly 120 A4 sheets of paper in summarised form and learning it... Oh, plus about 7hrs of study per day on the above and many other things over a period of around 4-5 weeks....
Sincerely hope it all pays off. Cathay Pacific is a FANTASTIC company from what I have heard and seen. Maybe there is enough room in the 'ranks' for yet another passionate and keen future CX hopeful... time will tell....
In the meantime, best wishes to all and thanks again for your replies above.
In terms of preparation for the CX Final Interview things I have researched/used as reference/study material include :
* Handling The Big jets
* Captain's XYZ ( very useful source of information)
* Mechanics of Flight (university reference book)
* The Jet Engine (Rolls Royce)
* Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators ( another uni reference source)
* ATPL Theory notes (once again, thanks Nathan - great course)
* Consultation with friends in CX and those recently interviewed
*Hours of Research online ( CX website, Boeing, Airbus, Rolls
Royce, General Electric...etc...etc..etc...)
* Heaps of Info online about Hong Kong in general, associated weather phenomena, climate etc..etc..etc...
... then finally accessing all the above info in terms of roughly 120 A4 sheets of paper in summarised form and learning it... Oh, plus about 7hrs of study per day on the above and many other things over a period of around 4-5 weeks....
Sincerely hope it all pays off. Cathay Pacific is a FANTASTIC company from what I have heard and seen. Maybe there is enough room in the 'ranks' for yet another passionate and keen future CX hopeful... time will tell....
In the meantime, best wishes to all and thanks again for your replies above.
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Short, do you know the difference between a brown-noser and a sh*t-head?
This was just a general question wasn't it Cpt.? You were not thinking of anyone in particular I trust and thereby making a personal attack?
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This was just a general question wasn't it Cpt.? You were not thinking of anyone in particular I trust and thereby making a personal attack?
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half-full I would accept your explanation for identical airfoils, but we are not talking about the same wing. The A340 has a far more efficient airfoil than the 744 and thus triple slotted not required.
Just my understanding. Gospel by no means.
Just my understanding. Gospel by no means.
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The difference between A brown-noser and a a** kisser is purely depth perception. I was successful in my final interview but turned down the position. I had 3 friends that where part of the 49's.:
The difference between A brown-noser and a a** kisser is purely depth perception. I was successful in my final interview but turned down the position. I had 3 friends that where part of the 49's.:
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Ooh ouch, my desperately sensitive constitution is shattered beyond repair. Lol. By the by Cpt, it's pretty obvious why you are still in elementary school. What happened moderator? I thought personal attacks were verboten?
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This moderator still here Shortly, this thread is about two clicks away from closure as it has gone completely off topic.
Yes personal attacks are definitely not encouraged, so please desist, ALL of you? Thanks.
As you can see for yourselves, if threads were closed immediately there was any kind of a personal attack then over half the threads on this forum would already be closed!
Try to jump on the very unpleasant ones straight away and still give a bit of rope where possible.
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Yes personal attacks are definitely not encouraged, so please desist, ALL of you? Thanks.
As you can see for yourselves, if threads were closed immediately there was any kind of a personal attack then over half the threads on this forum would already be closed!
Try to jump on the very unpleasant ones straight away and still give a bit of rope where possible.
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What an ignorant lot. I used to reply to you chaps but I'm getting sick and tired with your wannabe stupidity.
Is there any actual line pilot having passed perf A out there?
ATPL plus Perf A or similar might answer your questions. The stupid answers just stun me.
By the way, you would not enjoy sitting next to me at this time regardless of you limited knowledge.
100% AOA. (and 49/51ers)
Take note all you potential replacement workers.... I will do my best to limit your career.... in CX.
Hate me as much as you like, I have 51 mates waiting to get their jobs back! Take note of my written word.
Is there any actual line pilot having passed perf A out there?
ATPL plus Perf A or similar might answer your questions. The stupid answers just stun me.
By the way, you would not enjoy sitting next to me at this time regardless of you limited knowledge.
100% AOA. (and 49/51ers)
Take note all you potential replacement workers.... I will do my best to limit your career.... in CX.
Hate me as much as you like, I have 51 mates waiting to get their jobs back! Take note of my written word.
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You guys obvioulsy have way too much time on your hands. To come up with such QUALITY threats and tactics.
Thrust: I do believe (actually FACT) that 51 of your AOA mates did the replacing by upgrading into those positions, so I guess you will have to come up with a way to make their life HELL.
If you do not have the balls to stand the line, then do not make such horrible threats to people who can actually stand to help for your cause. A united pilot group is more effective than a divided one. But I guess making threats in such a cowardly manner, where no one thruly knows who you are is the only way for you to get your point across without facing the firing line.
You call replacement workers spinless, well take a hard long look in the mirror, and re-evaluate. Your replacement workers are those who are representing your cause.
How on the hell did CX hire such a vindictive person in the first place.....
i thought there was personality and psyc testing?????
Guys stick with the topic , it was quite good till now.
Thrust: I do believe (actually FACT) that 51 of your AOA mates did the replacing by upgrading into those positions, so I guess you will have to come up with a way to make their life HELL.
If you do not have the balls to stand the line, then do not make such horrible threats to people who can actually stand to help for your cause. A united pilot group is more effective than a divided one. But I guess making threats in such a cowardly manner, where no one thruly knows who you are is the only way for you to get your point across without facing the firing line.
You call replacement workers spinless, well take a hard long look in the mirror, and re-evaluate. Your replacement workers are those who are representing your cause.
How on the hell did CX hire such a vindictive person in the first place.....
i thought there was personality and psyc testing?????Guys stick with the topic , it was quite good till now.
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I read the last post by Thrust with absolute horror and dismay.
Thrust, I trust my (and my family’s) very being in your hand’s when I place myself on a seat on the aircraft you are in command of. If I were aware in advance of whom you are and which flight you were operating, I would most definitely avoid traveling that day.
The blind vitriol and hate you so candidly display is indeed a shock to my system particularly when it encroaches into the flight deck as you say it does.
You may respond that as a pax/customer, I am not entitled to know of, or comment on, the internal issues of CX personnel however the status quo within your organisation is not secret or confined to this forum. There has been correspondence in the SCMP between public and your AOA General Secretary – it is widely known in HK about these issues. Moreover, I am a very frequent traveller with CX and have been for many moons for both business and (few!) leisure trips.
It is often said by flight crew that pax know nothing. About operating an aircraft, probably. About where to place ourselves in terms of safety, no. I will say though, that I am not unfamiliar with your sims.
Thrust, I find it difficult to comprehend how you can dedicate your internal resources to operating an aircraft when you are carrying so much psychological baggage with you. Do you realise what you are doing with the lives of so many people relying on you?
I would venture to request that you need to apply yourself fully to operating the aircraft with 100 percent concentration and not have your attention diverted by your hatred of colleagues, whether justified or not. As your charge, I am entitled to be protected (as far as possible) from calamity – would you be able to handle it?
Please do not tell me that how you feel is the responsibility of Management. You are responsible for how you deal with your emotions, nobody else.
We are all, voluntary or involuntary, ambassadors and sales(wo)men for our employers by being before customers. It is really just as well for you I believe, that CX Management do not know who “Thrust” is.
Now then, do I continue with a booked short break in Cebu in a couple of weeks time not only with my wife and two children but with my elderly parents too? Your call.
HA
I read the last post by Thrust with absolute horror and dismay.
Thrust, I trust my (and my family’s) very being in your hand’s when I place myself on a seat on the aircraft you are in command of. If I were aware in advance of whom you are and which flight you were operating, I would most definitely avoid traveling that day.
The blind vitriol and hate you so candidly display is indeed a shock to my system particularly when it encroaches into the flight deck as you say it does.
You may respond that as a pax/customer, I am not entitled to know of, or comment on, the internal issues of CX personnel however the status quo within your organisation is not secret or confined to this forum. There has been correspondence in the SCMP between public and your AOA General Secretary – it is widely known in HK about these issues. Moreover, I am a very frequent traveller with CX and have been for many moons for both business and (few!) leisure trips.
It is often said by flight crew that pax know nothing. About operating an aircraft, probably. About where to place ourselves in terms of safety, no. I will say though, that I am not unfamiliar with your sims.
Thrust, I find it difficult to comprehend how you can dedicate your internal resources to operating an aircraft when you are carrying so much psychological baggage with you. Do you realise what you are doing with the lives of so many people relying on you?
I would venture to request that you need to apply yourself fully to operating the aircraft with 100 percent concentration and not have your attention diverted by your hatred of colleagues, whether justified or not. As your charge, I am entitled to be protected (as far as possible) from calamity – would you be able to handle it?
Please do not tell me that how you feel is the responsibility of Management. You are responsible for how you deal with your emotions, nobody else.
We are all, voluntary or involuntary, ambassadors and sales(wo)men for our employers by being before customers. It is really just as well for you I believe, that CX Management do not know who “Thrust” is.
Now then, do I continue with a booked short break in Cebu in a couple of weeks time not only with my wife and two children but with my elderly parents too? Your call.
HA
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that would be asking too much,
you may want to pass on your thoughts onto the AOA directly and maybe then they finally see that this disgraceful behavour by there members is reaching the public. I too would not want to be a pax when he is in command.
God only knows what kind of incident can occur when one is in that frame of mind
that would be asking too much,
you may want to pass on your thoughts onto the AOA directly and maybe then they finally see that this disgraceful behavour by there members is reaching the public. I too would not want to be a pax when he is in command.
God only knows what kind of incident can occur when one is in that frame of mind
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