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Total War

Old 1st Nov 2020, 22:32
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Total War

The POS18 joiners have been saved by the completely immoral and unforgivable actions of the who mis-manage CX, so they will be celebrating the recent events. They are probably too naive to release that the attacks on us won't stop. Every generation of mis-manager has to earn their bonus by improving productivity (cutting costs).

For the rest of us it is crystal clear this is total war. I signed POS18. I'll get current, update my CV. I'll be taxying slightly slower, more climbs will be no-derate, I'll never take a direct, descents will be very conservative, I'll use full reserve slightly more often, I'll miss the first exit slightly more often. As the industry improves I'll be looking for a new job, once that is lined up I'll pull a few sickies at outports where it costs the most to delay a flight. I'll have my pound of flesh.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 22:46
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I suspect the company has well factored in a disgruntled workforce. Slow taxiing....? I suggest that won't really make up for a 60% pay cut. It's over at CX, and pilots lack of enthusiasm really isn't going to move the meter very much. The company is just another Asian LLC. And the pilots are now working for an employer who values them accordingly.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 22:58
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what a complete load of rubbish. No body has been saved from anything. The playing field has just been leveled. With the slow but steady degradation of t&c’s over the last few years, this was bound to happen eventually. The current pandemic just provided the perfect opportunity. Airlines around the world are fighting to survive, CX is no different. It has absolutely nothing to do with Mis-management, it’s business...if you do what you have mentioned above, in all honesty you will be reported( very possibly by one of those pos18 joiners, based on your apparent attitude towards them, remember, they have lost nothing. They are still in hk on the contract they agreed to join on) and you will be fired. Just saying....
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 23:13
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I can tell ya right now if ya signed anything ya ain't winnin'.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 23:25
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And you wouldn’t know what ‘a war’ is.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 00:12
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Geez will you bitter CX lot just quit and be done with it. So sick of the whining.

Move on. For heavens sake.

Perhaps try something outside of aviation.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 00:12
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Originally Posted by controlledrest View Post
I'll be taxying slightly slower, more climbs will be no-derate, I'll never take a direct, descents will be very conservative, I'll use full reserve slightly more often, I'll miss the first exit slightly more often. As the industry improves I'll be looking for a new job, once that is lined up I'll pull a few sickies at outports where it costs the most to delay a flight. I'll have my pound of flesh.
You might be looking for that job faster than you think in that case...

Replaced by a cadet who is more talented and can fly the aircraft better, and will get to keep their job. Bye!

Edit: At the end of the day, you either like it enough to stay, or hate it enough to leave. If you hate it but stay, then that's on you.

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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 02:00
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what an absolute loser.
How about you leave straight away and let the rest get on with it, you whining moron. Crying for mummy's help are you?
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 02:20
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Check out Greater Bay Airlines, they’re looking for a few good men, and so am I !

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...-19-ready-hire

Has anyone actually seen the recruitment ads they mention in the article?
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 02:56
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 03:34
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however AOC still on the distant horizon
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 03:41
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I love all this bluffing that you will taxi slow and won't take directs and will update your CV and leave. You all should be grateful that you still have jobs and haven't been laid off like what other pilots have been worldwide including your Cathay Dragon colleagues. They'd happily take your position if you don't want it. Feel free to return to your home country now and join the other pilots driving tractors, trucks or stacking shelves in the supermarket. Even on COS18, the package is still way better than what you would earn at other airlines back in your home countries so none of you will actually leave when the opportunity arises once things recover. Oh and you'll have to wait for all those pilots back in your home country who were laid off to be recalled first and at that point you will be going to the bottom of the seniority list so doubt you will. So good luck. Even on the new contract the grass isn't greener. Cathay pilots have been spoiled for too long with your overly generous packages, this is a well needed reality check.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 03:51
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Originally Posted by el commandante View Post
what an absolute loser.
How about you leave straight away and let the rest get on with it, you whining moron. Crying for mummy's help are you?
Ha Ha classic! anyone that says "let the rest get on with it" is the biggest loser of them all. Are you going to grab your ankles and wipe off the lube so it hurts a bit more for management satisfaction too?

All of what CR is going to do should have been done for the last few years, which is what I have done and still haven't been sacked.

Most CX pilots deserve the COS18 contract for being limp wristed losers and never standing up for themselves
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 03:52
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and don't forget No accident/incident letter from previous employer.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 04:38
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Originally Posted by veritas777 View Post
You might be looking for that job faster than you think in that case...

Replaced by a cadet who is more talented and can fly the aircraft better, and will get to keep their job. Bye!

Edit: At the end of the day, you either like it enough to stay, or hate it enough to leave. If you hate it but stay, then that's on you.

Getting a bit sick of your BS mate.....Do the time, get some runs on the board first and then go off about how good you are some place else...
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 06:36
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bunch of kids at CX currently.... pity pity
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 06:51
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Devil

If I had a dollar for every time I spent the whole flight hearing the Skipper complain about the company AND THEN watch him get nervous and fidgety when I don't mention RETI when taxiing in.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 07:29
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Oh. so Captains did RETI for being afraid of F/O’s or S/O’s.
I wonder whether you ever had a shot at being a Captain in the past, because unfortunately your comments render you Not suitable for command, as you do not understand the reason why a Captain is a Captain.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 07:36
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Just to add to the debate,
Pilots who were forced to sign to CoS18 did so in order to continue to feed their family, not because they want to help CX.
Those, if any, who will not sign over, also have their reasons.
So instead of the childish comments in previous threads, please be kind and support each other as the recovery will come one day.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 07:49
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Here here!


Not in a million years would any of you ever speak to each other this way in person. How do I know? Well simply put, because after many years I never have! A car or a keyboard shouldn't change your principles. ​​​​​​

I firmly believe that we all have our reasons and you'll never really know the full story of someone's factors to consider are.
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