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Old 20th Oct 2020, 09:25
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Housing allowance is soon gone. There are so few options elsewhere, not many places to go. Seems like a submission is imminent.
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 09:32
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Yes housing has been eliminated, finally the discrimination is over!
So the hundreds of locals getting HKPA and Special Allowance were being discriminated against? Do you think they would have got that without the existence of expat housing?

Expat housing was designed to bring in experience and keep it here by making it financially punitive to leave. Very simple. Cadets will always be a dime a dozen to recruit (hence thousands of applications) but very expensive to get on to the line. I'm really unsure as to why local cadet pilots feel they ever deserved expat housing just because the expats got it. You've totally missed the point. It wasn't discrimination, it was just business.
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 09:46
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The income statement will be ameliorated shortly without housing.

- “bring in experience” - hkexpress does too and on local terms

-“Making it financially punitive to leave” well Even without housing, it will still be financially punitive to leave; as so few options.

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Old 20th Oct 2020, 09:59
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You guys concentrate too much on our own little world and infights.

This problem is so much bigger, housing packages are insignificant by comparison.
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 10:25
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Originally Posted by destiny78 View Post
@cassij yes 2500 dragonair staff will be furloughed


I told you. Dragonair is being axed.
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 11:09
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There's suspicion going around today in the local media that the entire KA is gonna vanish... Those route/slot prob few months back with the CAAC might have been ironed out with President Xi in SZ last week now that HK Gov has a say in CX
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 11:11
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I told you. Dragonair is being axed.
Actually you said the staff would go. If you read the news it's a merger
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 11:14
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you’ll see tomorrow
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 11:57
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Does the 78 relate to your IQ ?
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 12:30
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Relax...I'm certain that Augustus will have made a reassuring statement on the Hub to quell all the press speculation if Dragon is not for the axe and if 6000 is not the correct figure. Wouldn't he?
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 15:18
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Originally Posted by Globocnik View Post
Does the 78 relate to your IQ ?
Nope that would be far too high. As for EQ......
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 00:20
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Originally Posted by destiny78 View Post
The income statement will be ameliorated shortly without housing.

- “bring in experience” - hkexpress does too and on local terms

-“Making it financially punitive to leave” well Even without housing, it will still be financially punitive to leave; as so few options.
That’s all true, thanks for stating the obvious. I’ll say it again, you missed the point. Try and lose that bitter taste in your mouth, you’ll feel better for it.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 04:22
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Would be nice to hear all those "I'm not gonna sign COS18 neither accept paycut" what they have to say now... Buying rice and chicken to prepare for winter...

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Old 21st Oct 2020, 04:37
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There will be as many of those as there were actual Hollywood A-listers moving to Canada after Trump won.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 04:39
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That would be “nice” for you? Really? You’re enjoying this?

“I’m not gonna sign COS18 neither accept a paycut” Are you hoping to move into my LHS? Something tells me you’re many decades away from command either way.

“Chicken and rice” and some dignity is better than what you have I bet.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 04:40
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I am not going to sign cos18.
There, I said it.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 04:42
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How about COS20?
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 04:43
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Same here.

What if nobody on CoS08 signs?

One last chance to demonstrate some solidarity. It’s never too late to grow a pair. If we did, we might be in danger of becoming good men with character and principles.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 04:49
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So to understand this more clearly- it's LIFO- for how many pilots? Approx how many years service is that? And then also all those who don't sign the new demoralized contract?

My condolesences- but anyway, it's not like you're being hard done by, plenty other pilots copped it long ago- so yeeaaahhhh....
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 04:55
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nice... please dont sign. a lot are waiting to come in. hahahahaha
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