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HK Government just doesn't get it

Old 24th Nov 2019, 06:57
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Originally Posted by Oasis View Post
For a group that wants a democratic Hong Kong, the protesters are not very good at stomaching people having other opinions.
You're an aviation professional, you understand how large data sets work, and yet, here you are spouting nonsense. It's pretty obvious from some of these comments that few of you have actually experienced a protest, let alone participated or supported one. Then please don't tell your friends you're commenting on things "from Hong Kong," you're about as expert on the protest movement as the passenger in the back remarking on your sh1tty landing based on his frequent flier miles. Seriously. It's immediately obvious you're hurling observations based on what you've read or seen from media. And would you trust to form an educated opinion on what transpires in your cockpit from reading SCMP? Give me an effing break.................

This entire city is united against this govt. If you spend 2 seconds outside your little expat bubble you'd realize that. OF COURSE it's not "unanimous." It's as close to unanimous as humanly conceivable give the fractious nature of the HK demographic. As such, the protest movement is diverse, there is no "leadership" and obviously sh1t will happen. And yet here you sit castigating their efforts without even lifting a finger. I find it disgusting. Particularly given the fact that HKers have essentially decided en masse to not only risk their futures for something they believe in but to risk their lives. And then have to peruse these aloof comments from the likes of the pilot body that can't be bothered to go on strike to save its own a$$. "Oh sure the police have been heavy-handed. " IS that supposed to be a joke???????????? It's disgusting. 1C2S is DOA and no one should know this better than the crew at CX... but here you sit bitching about the choices by the only group on planet earth standing up to the commie juggernaut. On second thought............ how very, very, very, very CX pilot..................... all talk........ no balls.Unlike these HK kids. Frankly... I'm proud to know so many of them. Wish I could say the same of the pilot body...


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Old 24th Nov 2019, 07:48
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Be careful ...if you disagree with Shutterbug, he might set you on fire or throw bricks at you...of course it feels like it unanimous, because a whole section of the community has been shut down in fear of their lives...Maybe you need to start looking around at the people that are silent at the moment and not assume that they are in agreement with you or with the violence that is coming from the protesters. What started off as a noble cause for freedom has turned into complete anarchy, with one side of the moment being prepared to kill anyone who disagrees with their methods...that is just as bad as the regime you are trying to block. Right now there is no difference between the two sides.
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Old 24th Nov 2019, 08:37
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I guess we will get a reasonable measure of which of you is correct when the election results are announced later, busloads of grannies being wheeled in with their voting instructions written on their hands notwithstanding.
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Old 24th Nov 2019, 11:52
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Originally Posted by Paul852 View Post
I guess we will get a reasonable measure of which of you is correct when the election results are announced later, busloads of grannies being wheeled in with their voting instructions written on their hands notwithstanding.
It will be interesting to see the reaction if the pro-government side wins. My bet is that the petrol bombs will start flying again when the ‘pro-democracy’ camp refuses to accept the result of a democratic election. They have after all proven to have a questionable grasp of the concept.
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Old 24th Nov 2019, 12:37
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Originally Posted by Che Xindamail View Post
It will be interesting to see the reaction if the pro-government side wins. My bet is that the petrol bombs will start flying again when the ‘pro-democracy’ camp refuses to accept the result of a democratic election. They have after all proven to have a questionable grasp of the concept.
As do the people bussing the grannies in, paying them, and telling them who to vote for.

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Old 24th Nov 2019, 14:15
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Originally Posted by Shutterbug View Post
You're an aviation professional, you understand how large data sets work, and yet, here you are spouting nonsense. It's pretty obvious from some of these comments that few of you have actually experienced a protest, let alone participated or supported one. Then please don't tell your friends you're commenting on things "from Hong Kong," you're about as expert on the protest movement as the passenger in the back remarking on your sh1tty landing based on his frequent flier miles. Seriously. It's immediately obvious you're hurling observations based on what you've read or seen from media. And would you trust to form an educated opinion on what transpires in your cockpit from reading SCMP? Give me an effing break.................

This entire city is united against this govt. If you spend 2 seconds outside your little expat bubble you'd realize that. OF COURSE it's not "unanimous." It's as close to unanimous as humanly conceivable give the fractious nature of the HK demographic. As such, the protest movement is diverse, there is no "leadership" and obviously sh1t will happen. And yet here you sit castigating their efforts without even lifting a finger. I find it disgusting. Particularly given the fact that HKers have essentially decided en masse to not only risk their futures for something they believe in but to risk their lives. And then have to peruse these aloof comments from the likes of the pilot body that can't be bothered to go on strike to save its own a$$. "Oh sure the police have been heavy-handed. " IS that supposed to be a joke???????????? It's disgusting. 1C2S is DOA and no one should know this better than the crew at CX... but here you sit bitching about the choices by the only group on planet earth standing up to the commie juggernaut. On second thought............ how very, very, very, very CX pilot..................... all talk........ no balls.Unlike these HK kids. Frankly... I'm proud to know so many of them. Wish I could say the same of the pilot body...
Catch your breath, have a little wine.
It is the reaction you have to me having a different opinion than you, is what is making me uncomfortable.

You and your emotions are getting swept up in the fray and the ‘us against them’ feeling you get when you go on a protest march. Add a few masks and overwhelming numbers and you get the feeling you are unstoppable, kind of like in a military conflict with your class buddies.
It’s an intoxicating brew that can push things too far, and they have.
Hong Kong is my home too and i don’t agree with the ’we burn you burn’ idea, as I have a sneaky suspicion that China is not all that hurt, economically, by all of this. We are mostly cutting ourselves.
I could go back and forth with you, but you are making a lot of assumptions about me and with so much emotion, so I think it’s best we leave it at that.


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Old 25th Nov 2019, 13:29
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Originally Posted by Che Xindamail View Post
It will be interesting to see the reaction if the pro-government side wins. My bet is that the petrol bombs will start flying again when the ‘pro-democracy’ camp refuses to accept the result of a democratic election.
And now of course you are totally accepting of the result?

There's a really interesting pause now while we all wait to see what, if anything, the government will do in response. It's good to see that everyone on both sides seems to be relatively relaxed at PolyU whilst the immediate humanitarian issue is sorted out.

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Old 25th Nov 2019, 22:31
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All I can say is that the HK people are a lot braver than CX pilots . They are facing up to 10 years in jail all we were facing was possibly losing our job even then 90% were too scared to even take that risk
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 00:56
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Originally Posted by oriental flyer View Post
All I can say is that the HK people are a lot braver than CX pilots . They are facing up to 10 years in jail all we were facing was possibly losing our job even then 90% were too scared to even take that risk
Amen! No doubt this is true, but do you expect anything different from an expat community? It’s different when someone is attacking your home rather than just your livelihood.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:39
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And this Local Council election result is going to change what? Shall we get democratic garbage disposal? Democratic library book distribution? What a storm in a teacup.
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