Anna's Antics
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From: one country, one system
Exactly Ken. Strange that when during a worldwide pilot shortage and pilot pay going up, CX think it a good idea to reduce pay. Morale is already rock bottom and if only a quarter of the pilots who are talking about leaving actually do, then aircraft are going to be parked. There are a lot of jobs out there.
Except in the end nobody will actually leave.
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From: HK
The DFO is correct when she points out that 2,379 firm orders for wide and narrow body aircraft are to be delivered to Asia Pacific operators between 2017 and 2021.
Who is going to fly them?
WE ARE !!! (Possibly).
Just not for Cathay Pacific (perhaps).
By consistently alienating their own pilots, all CX is doing is training the next generation of aircrew for their own competitors.
I am very concerned that any recovery at CX will be endangered by threatening the very staff they will rely upon to keep the merry go round turning. How much help do they expect when all they do is threaten, intimidate and denigrate the aircrew in company communications and in the press?
Who is going to fly them?
WE ARE !!! (Possibly).
Just not for Cathay Pacific (perhaps).
By consistently alienating their own pilots, all CX is doing is training the next generation of aircrew for their own competitors.
I am very concerned that any recovery at CX will be endangered by threatening the very staff they will rely upon to keep the merry go round turning. How much help do they expect when all they do is threaten, intimidate and denigrate the aircrew in company communications and in the press?
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From: Blighty
Except in the end nobody will actually leave.
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From: az
Why we are still talking is baffling! I do not blame the HPE comittee..... but the leadership. While we have been talking, the company has gone on a PR campaign against us, made two SO's on flight ok, continued to bully us and tell us we are the problem, made healthcare worse, and the list goes on.... We have done nothing but send members letters telling us how wonderful the HPE process is. WHAT??? Head in the sand approaches rarely turn out well.
DS, when he ran for chairman said he would like to be like the chairman we had when SLS and COS 08 came out. That was truly an appalling time for me. Guys were able to work to 65, delaying my command. Meanwhile, friends of mine signed over to COS 08 because the company wanted them to (and the union blessed it due to 25 year housing being written in stone). Now, those friends have either lost out on two years of BPP, or are currently missing out on BPP....... and they still have/had their commands deferred.
I've heard the plan is to get rid of expensive pilots, and then hire DEC's again, due to the inexperience level of the younger generation. Why wouldn't they if they can push through everything else they want to with the young bucs. They only need to look at the history of CX pilots to figure out how crappy this company can be.
We are in the midst of making a decision. I think that decision needs to be to retract the thumb and extend the middle finger. That is how we are being treated. However, we need not turn the other cheek, and throw the dung right back at her!
Time to grow a set of balls!
DS, when he ran for chairman said he would like to be like the chairman we had when SLS and COS 08 came out. That was truly an appalling time for me. Guys were able to work to 65, delaying my command. Meanwhile, friends of mine signed over to COS 08 because the company wanted them to (and the union blessed it due to 25 year housing being written in stone). Now, those friends have either lost out on two years of BPP, or are currently missing out on BPP....... and they still have/had their commands deferred.
I've heard the plan is to get rid of expensive pilots, and then hire DEC's again, due to the inexperience level of the younger generation. Why wouldn't they if they can push through everything else they want to with the young bucs. They only need to look at the history of CX pilots to figure out how crappy this company can be.
We are in the midst of making a decision. I think that decision needs to be to retract the thumb and extend the middle finger. That is how we are being treated. However, we need not turn the other cheek, and throw the dung right back at her!
Time to grow a set of balls!
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From: hk
Us old hands have seen this before. She has got the HK public on her side with the SCMP article and now she has the Cathay staff on her side with the latest Friday news. We are always one step behind and don't have a hope in hell
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From: UK
Joined: Apr 2002
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From: hong kong
Its like watching the same car crash movie over and over again
That's what happens when you have a gen sec on his dream retirement roadshow
A Guileless pilot community
A sympathetic President NOT UP TO THE MISSION ahead
And once again in advance i would like to thank the SSI's and Training community who will be shortly training my replacement 👍
That's what happens when you have a gen sec on his dream retirement roadshow
A Guileless pilot community
A sympathetic President NOT UP TO THE MISSION ahead
And once again in advance i would like to thank the SSI's and Training community who will be shortly training my replacement 👍
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From: hong kong
not on the chinese media.... lots of public comments are about them screwing up the fuel hedging and asking staff to pay
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From: one country, one system
If you don't sign anything the current housing deal simply expires.
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From: hk
My lease is expiring in November at my furnished 2 bedroom plus study apartment in Kowloon. I have asked to extend it for another two years but have been refused. I have been told by the building's management that Cathay's new housing will only afford me a one bedroom furnished apartment. Guess they know something we don't. Good luck to all those pilots that have to renew your lease soon