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Not that I'm in favour of this change but wouldn't the same problem occur with the current CN, RQ, FO, SO complement if the RQ went sick at an outport? Obviously a different story if both FOs are RQ.
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Agreed but don't you think that will have been part of the risk assessment? I assume there are statistics on the number of times pilots go sick at outports although, to be fair, those statistics will be based on the current, rather than proposed crewing.
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Oh, I got before but ACMS has made a valid point that many RQs get sectors currently, so the inevitable question might be, what's changed? Surely those stats will be available too? Of course, I realise that there's a difference between a one-off and something that might become the norm in terms of the physiological effects.
Oh, I got before but ACMS has made a valid point that many RQs get sectors currently, so the inevitable question might be, what's changed?
Arrived off long haul trip then min rest ..Up at 4.30am for 6am PC sim then STC calls crew control at end of debrief and given a long haul flight in 12 hours time at 11pm....really? Who else does that? Why bother with a roster?
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Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
How many times till they get the message? FFS don't let them take the piss.
Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
Acknowledged thank you... Ring ring, Hello CC? Reporting unfit due fatigue...
How many times till they get the message? FFS don't let them take the piss.
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Two SO LRO
The NTC has been extended and the company plan to increase the number of flights where 2 S/Os are rostered. Unbelievably there have been relatively few ASR(F)s submitted by crews who have operated these trips. The ASR(F)s are the only way we can fight this.
S/Os, please, if the guy sitting next to you takes controlled rest, urge him or her to submit an ASR(F). You will be RQ soon enough, so this is your future that you are protecting.
F/Os, don't risk your licence or reputation doing sectors/landings when you are fatigued. Missed RT calls, operational mistakes or controlled rest, then file an ASR(F).
Capts, please encourage crews submit ASR(F)s for any of the above.
S/Os, please, if the guy sitting next to you takes controlled rest, urge him or her to submit an ASR(F). You will be RQ soon enough, so this is your future that you are protecting.
F/Os, don't risk your licence or reputation doing sectors/landings when you are fatigued. Missed RT calls, operational mistakes or controlled rest, then file an ASR(F).
Capts, please encourage crews submit ASR(F)s for any of the above.
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