The problem with saving fuel..
Global warming...erm 'climate change' or whatever it's being called this week is being exposed as the scam that it is. Nice try, but the airline has missed the boat appealing to its pilots on this one. The last few pages of the applicable thread on Jet Blast are interesting reading. Mr Gore and a few others have been very quiet lately.
Having said that, would anyone care to take a guess on how many tonnes of fuel have been unnecessarily burnt into the atmosphere because of China's ridiculous airspace structure? Thousands? Hundreds of thousands? The dollar cost must be mind-blowing.
CX should be badgering the Chinese government over the issue, but that would not be as easy as hassling their own pilots.
Having said that, would anyone care to take a guess on how many tonnes of fuel have been unnecessarily burnt into the atmosphere because of China's ridiculous airspace structure? Thousands? Hundreds of thousands? The dollar cost must be mind-blowing.
CX should be badgering the Chinese government over the issue, but that would not be as easy as hassling their own pilots.
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How is life in Jurassic Park Capt Dark (ages)?
Anyone with a life outside of aviation (or major cities) doesn't need Al Gore or any other self serving hypocrite to see the climate is changing.
The practice of carrying 60T of fuel on a 3 hour sector between sin and cmb is an abuse of the worlds limited resources simply to make some Swire brat just a little bit wealthier.
What's the color of money?
Are CX green?
You bet they are!!!!
Anyone with a life outside of aviation (or major cities) doesn't need Al Gore or any other self serving hypocrite to see the climate is changing.
The practice of carrying 60T of fuel on a 3 hour sector between sin and cmb is an abuse of the worlds limited resources simply to make some Swire brat just a little bit wealthier.
What's the color of money?
Are CX green?
You bet they are!!!!
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PW,
Of course the climate is changing, and until all the politicians with the scientific community in their corner take over the global economy, it will be all the fault of big business, corporate greed, and obese American autos. Never mind that the US has cut its CO2 output by more than double the amount of the entire European continent and all their green projects by simply using natural gas instead of coal to generate electricity. Never mind that the earth has actually been cooling for the last decade. Never mind that atmospheric CO2 levels are nowhere near historic highs.
Yes, the climate is changing as it always has and always will. But the way "climate change" is being packaged and "sold" is the most disingenuous, political ploy ever perpetrated on a global level. Its engineers will not be happy until the UN runs the world's economy and redistributes what little is left after all the worlds' "polluters" are shut down.
Of course the climate is changing, and until all the politicians with the scientific community in their corner take over the global economy, it will be all the fault of big business, corporate greed, and obese American autos. Never mind that the US has cut its CO2 output by more than double the amount of the entire European continent and all their green projects by simply using natural gas instead of coal to generate electricity. Never mind that the earth has actually been cooling for the last decade. Never mind that atmospheric CO2 levels are nowhere near historic highs.
Yes, the climate is changing as it always has and always will. But the way "climate change" is being packaged and "sold" is the most disingenuous, political ploy ever perpetrated on a global level. Its engineers will not be happy until the UN runs the world's economy and redistributes what little is left after all the worlds' "polluters" are shut down.
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Mngt practices have made it abundantly clear that all savings reflect on their splendid leadership and are only reflected in their bonuses. Until the thick-headed Commisars that were appointed to run herd over crew realize that in Capitalism, Incentives reign supreme, I see no need for anyone to pay any attention to fuel missives. Do your job, get from A to B as safely as you can. Carry what fuel you must.
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My point is, complaining about it is fair enough but do you care enough about it to NOT load that Cat B fuel? Just load Cat A,ignoring the CFP and let the next crew load what they need in CMB. Costs the company more money but is more environmentally friendly. Or...just load CFP and complain about it on Pprune.
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Shutterbug is exactly correct. When will they learn? I'm guessing they won't because we have so many "company men" in our ranks who require nothing more than a weekly update from the CEO and a chief pilot to feel like he is "part of the team." When my bonus is structured the same way as the directors and my total package goes up by the same amount (%) each year as theirs, then I will be 100% all in with their initiatives. Until then, "Same team, same dream" rings extremely hollow.
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In the days of my youth I was a Swire Prince.
In the days before that, when CX was The Plucky Little Airline That Could, Derek Stirling, who told me this story, was the gallant little airline's Chief Financial Officer.
He boarded a flight from Bangkok to Kai Tak. As was usually done, in those distant days, he handed his card to one of the cabin staff and in due course was asked if he would like to join his colleagues on the flight deck.
I do not recall if the aircraft was a Convair 880 or a B707 - he did tell me. Professional pilots here will be able to identify the type from what follows.
Anyway, somewhere over Vietnam, he knocked on the cockpit door, said hello to the three men flying the plane, all of whom he knew, and settled into a jump seat.
Now, Derek was the sort of CFO who took an intelligent interest in the practical side of the business. His eyes took in, sucessively, the altimeter and the FE's console, where four red lights were showing.
"Please forgive a silly question", said he, "But is there a good reason why we appear to be above the service ceiling for this aircraft, and why are all the low oil pressure warning lights on?"
Three heads turned, and the chap in the left hand seat said "YOU should know, Derek!"
"Why?"
"Because YOU put in the Fuel Saving Bonus!"
In the days before that, when CX was The Plucky Little Airline That Could, Derek Stirling, who told me this story, was the gallant little airline's Chief Financial Officer.
He boarded a flight from Bangkok to Kai Tak. As was usually done, in those distant days, he handed his card to one of the cabin staff and in due course was asked if he would like to join his colleagues on the flight deck.
I do not recall if the aircraft was a Convair 880 or a B707 - he did tell me. Professional pilots here will be able to identify the type from what follows.
Anyway, somewhere over Vietnam, he knocked on the cockpit door, said hello to the three men flying the plane, all of whom he knew, and settled into a jump seat.
Now, Derek was the sort of CFO who took an intelligent interest in the practical side of the business. His eyes took in, sucessively, the altimeter and the FE's console, where four red lights were showing.
"Please forgive a silly question", said he, "But is there a good reason why we appear to be above the service ceiling for this aircraft, and why are all the low oil pressure warning lights on?"
Three heads turned, and the chap in the left hand seat said "YOU should know, Derek!"
"Why?"
"Because YOU put in the Fuel Saving Bonus!"
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short flights long nights
I really really wanted to work for Cathay once........
