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Retirement at 68

Old 13th Apr 2012, 03:10
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Retirement at 68

Rumour has it that Cathay has worked out the only way to crew all the new heavy metal is to increase the retirement age to 68.........................Seems the head of IATA is helping to make it happen.................
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Old 13th Apr 2012, 04:50
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Rumour is this time the AOA and all pilots, regardless of COS, will stick together and will enact strict contract compliance until those adversely affected by unilateral offers of yet another new COS receive appropriate and worthwhile compensation for the further destruction of their career progress and decreased earnings, without having to work 13 extra years.

Good rumour, huh!
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Old 13th Apr 2012, 05:15
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Nice try but the majority are going at about 60-62 so they could make the retirement age 100 and it would make no difference.
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Old 13th Apr 2012, 05:52
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I don' t ever fly overtime (744), nor most of the guys I talk to, apart from maybe a couple of hours.
This alleged crewing problem everybody seems to talk about might be a bit inflated..
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Old 13th Apr 2012, 06:11
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I am on the Bus. 90 hours each month. B777 guys are hitting their 900 hour limits. There is a shortage.
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Old 13th Apr 2012, 07:49
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Obviously didn't ask me 10-15/month rostered for the last 8 months apart from a leave month.
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Old 13th Apr 2012, 07:53
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My second month with OT in 12. Usually 70 hrs. (B744)
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Old 13th Apr 2012, 08:51
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IATA don't make those kind of decisions
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Old 13th Apr 2012, 09:03
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IATA don't make those kind of decisions
but they certainly influence them.
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Old 13th Apr 2012, 10:05
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"the majority are going at about 60-62??? wtf??
The majority will be going at 55 as per their CoS
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Old 13th Apr 2012, 16:05
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I'm not working a day over 70! I swear!!!
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Old 13th Apr 2012, 18:20
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Probably end up "as long as you hold a class one medical"
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Old 13th Apr 2012, 20:38
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Does anyone know the scientifically proven age you decide you like flying through the night with no sleep and permanently feeling like a zombie...retire at 65? If they keep up this roster till then I'd die the next day. (mind you I'd have four bars by then and define my existence by them aye Jizz)
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Old 14th Apr 2012, 04:32
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Hi Jizz.

Let me guess... You fall into the group that;
A) Signed with CoS 08 that bennifitted many at the expense of a few.
B) Voted for the pay rise that had something for the majority and SFA for a few.
And
C) Bitched ceaselessly about the profit share that bennifitted the majority but had little in it for others.

See the hypocrisy here by any chance? If not, you're not alone. It's quite a unique group of self serving individuals that make up the Cathay Pacific Team
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Old 14th Apr 2012, 07:57
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Hi Progress,

Let me guess...you fall into the group that:

a) voluntarily agreed to join on inferior conditions
b) haven't done anything to attempt to improve conditions
c) most likely don't belong to the AOA (but will take any benefits they negotiate)

See the hypocrisy here by any chance? If not, you're not alone. It's quite a unique group of self serving individuals that make up the Cathay Pacific Team
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Old 14th Apr 2012, 10:22
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a) Yes
b) Yes
c) Yes

No hypocrisy there. Very consistent.
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Old 14th Apr 2012, 11:21
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The majority will be going at 55 as per their CoS

Wrong. It's a sad fact but the majority, and its growing, are on CoS08 with age 65. AAR
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Old 14th Apr 2012, 13:01
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Sad bunch...
I get it... Old guys need to feel like they're king or whatever.. God only knows! New guys not so much.
I know not directed at me...
a) voluntarily agreed to join on inferior conditions
b) haven't done anything to attempt to improve conditions
c) most likely don't belong to the AOA (but will take any benefits they negotiate)

But answers from my side..
No (well B scale but A scale was years previous)
I like to think I've done my bit.. Support the union, sign what I'm asked to and write in when required.. I'm up for whatever is out forward to improve our conditions.
Yep strong AOA supporter... What else I got? Tennis with RH gonna help me?

And an aside.... Personally I signed and have maintained a contract that has me retiring at age 55 whilst I don't really blame anyone that works longer, I do pity them! Get a life! Have a go at me for saying this... I'm dumbfounded by the amount of guys I fly with that have 'a nice big house' they don't own or at least partly own c/o Cathay (and moan they cant afford to stop working!) whilst in the mean time I like many others that don't care about the status, have bought property that Cathay is paying for and plan to leave as per my marridge certificate and Cathay Pacific's COS, one in death do us part... The other till I'm 55!!. I am saving for my retirement and hoping like hell I leave with the same wife while I can still attend my children's school camps, balls, sports days, uni graduation and 21st without some idiots telling me that no sorry cannot your the only one on reserve, o day, g day, leave, long service leave, maternity leave, or wankers cramp so you gotta do it!
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Old 14th Apr 2012, 14:35
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Age 55 was always to young to 'retire'. Even if you have the money, what exactly do you do at 55. Most of us like our jobs, and enjoy for the most part going to work. If someone wants to keep working....guess what, it's none of your business why they choose to do so. As a matter of fact, most of the 'young' set who seem to feel they have a right to state when others should retire are actually helping establish a mindset whereupon people resent the implication they are not welcome after a working career, and resolve to stay as long as possible. At the end of the day, people have a right to work to whatever retirement age is applicable. Any argument to the contrary is futile. I suspect many of the junior members with a strong opinion on the matter will 'surprisingly' change their tune when they get into their late 40's...
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Old 14th Apr 2012, 15:05
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Ok maybe I'll go to 75 if they promise me a simulator job or a base!😁
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