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you will be pleased to hear that all the line pilots that were involved in recruitment have been replaced by managment and ground interviewers apparently the pilots were demanding too high a standard.
At least we won't have to go to Nathan Rd to find a fake Rolex watch or a cheap suit.
Maybe the new recruits will also know where to get a good curry. I hate getting harassed when going into Chungking mansion.
Maybe the new recruits will also know where to get a good curry. I hate getting harassed when going into Chungking mansion.
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Firstly there are close to 30000 unemployed pilots in Europe and the US combined. Secondly 250 hours isn’t experienced. It is, to put it bluntly extremely inexperienced. Indian applicants may be desperate, but desperation won’t get you the job here sunshine, even with management pilots doing the interviews.
CX never has spent limitless amounts on wages. They have always been as tight as a fishes ar*e. Now they are compromising safety to be even tighter.
As for the rest of your dribble, if you can list for me, a generic airlines total operating costs and break it down in percentage order, then I will have a discussion regarding why some airlines operate on wafer thin margins.
Anyway your whole post is a bit rich for someone who aspires to become an expat pilot but hates expat pilots in India. As limited as your previous posts are you are clearly a racist idiot. If you come here with that attitude sunshine, I can assure you , you will be ripped a new ar*ehole.
Firstly there are close to 30000 unemployed pilots in Europe and the US combined. Secondly 250 hours isn’t experienced. It is, to put it bluntly extremely inexperienced. Indian applicants may be desperate, but desperation won’t get you the job here sunshine, even with management pilots doing the interviews.
CX never has spent limitless amounts on wages. They have always been as tight as a fishes ar*e. Now they are compromising safety to be even tighter.
As for the rest of your dribble, if you can list for me, a generic airlines total operating costs and break it down in percentage order, then I will have a discussion regarding why some airlines operate on wafer thin margins.
Anyway your whole post is a bit rich for someone who aspires to become an expat pilot but hates expat pilots in India. As limited as your previous posts are you are clearly a racist idiot. If you come here with that attitude sunshine, I can assure you , you will be ripped a new ar*ehole.
Recently i went to get my class 1 med done and i was shocked to count 19 people besides me who had come for the same purpose as i had. I was expecting people to abandon their CPL plans in a big way. But i am disappointed. Lets hope the government acts tough and throws out expats.
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Why India is not a superpower
Amrit Dhillon
March 15, 2012
'It hurts the pride of Indians to be reminded of the country's poverty. But the existence of poverty itself does not hurt their pride.'
Rich Indians have forgotten the country cannot meet the basic needs of poor people.
Rich Indians hallucinating about India becoming a superpower have had delivered a much-needed thump on the head courtesy of a study by the London School of Economics, which found that it's doubtful if the country can ever become a superpower.
The whole notion that India is an ''emerging superpower'' has always been ridiculous and whoever first mooted the idea - Bill Clinton or George Bush - during the excess of goodwill that invariably accompanies a state visit, should have been bundled off to a laboratory to have his brain dissected to locate the precise site of the raving lunacy.
Even more preposterous has been the uncritical alacrity with which rich Indians embraced the notion when all they have to do is drive a few kilometres outside the big cities to rural India for a flashback to the 18th century or, even closer to home, to a nearby slum to see disease, hunger and misery that beggars belief.
The LSE study by nine India experts concludes that, despite ''impressive'' achievements, India is unlikely to become a superpower for many reasons including "the increasing gap between the rich and the poor; the trivialisation of the media; the unsustainability, in an environmental sense, of present patterns of resource consumption; the instability and policy incoherence caused by multi-party coalition governments''.
The study adds: "India still faces major developmental challenges. The still-entrenched divisions of caste structure are being compounded by the emergence of new inequalities of wealth stemming from India's economic success.''
These inequalities take your breath away. While the rich consume luxury goods and the middle class buys fancy cars and gadgets and holidays in Bangkok, they blind themselves to the reality for 700 million or so immiserated Indians.
In their vainglorious dinner-table talk about ''superpower'' status, they forget that a country that cannot meet a poor person's most basic needs - enough food, clean drinking water, and electricity - has no business aspiring to superpower status.
One has always heard that Indians have traditionally lacked a certain respect for the facts but this wilful disregard of reality is disturbing. Affluent Indians have bought the superpower fantasy not just because of a contempt for the facts, but from pride and vanity and a tendency to get all puffed up the moment the country manages any achievement.
So an obscure international award for some Indian film, a bronze medal in a sport that no one watches, an Indian company's takeover of a foreign company, or an Indian kid topping a maths exam in the US, are all trumpeted as evidence that India has conquered the world.
This is the reality: about 400 million Indians have no electricity; India has more mobile phones than toilets; millions of children are not in school; most cities have no sewage treatment systems; no major city has a continuous water supply; disease is rampant; infrastructure is pitiful; and a UNICEF report released this month says there is acute malnutrition and hunger among the urban poor, with 54 per cent more infants dying from among the urban poor than from the urban non-poor. Another UNICEF report found that 93 million Indians live in urban slums, on pavements and construction sites.
Yet should anyone plead that the poor have been left behind they will be subject to heated criticism. It hurts the pride of Indians to be reminded of the country's poverty. But the existence of poverty itself does not hurt their pride.
Economic growth rates of about 8-9 per cent over the past few years have been justifiably praiseworthy. But the benefits of this growth have been confined to the middle class and the rich.
The poor still do not have homes, basic sanitation, decent schools or nutritious food. As a young girl in American author Katherine Boo's much-acclaimed new book Behind the Beautiful Forevers, about life in a Mumbai slum, says: "We try so many things but the world doesn't move in our favour."
Middle-class Indians need to read Boo's book about life in a rat-infested hovel, near a sewage lake, with rampant dengue fever, malaria and tuberculosis, with scraps for meals, a single toilet for 100 families and then try claiming that India is becoming a superpower. There are many criteria for defining a superpower, but for India an extra one should be added. Let no one utter the world ''superpower'' till every Indian family has a toilet in their home.
Amrit Dhillon is a freelance journalist based in New Delhi.
Amrit Dhillon
March 15, 2012
'It hurts the pride of Indians to be reminded of the country's poverty. But the existence of poverty itself does not hurt their pride.'
Rich Indians have forgotten the country cannot meet the basic needs of poor people.
Rich Indians hallucinating about India becoming a superpower have had delivered a much-needed thump on the head courtesy of a study by the London School of Economics, which found that it's doubtful if the country can ever become a superpower.
The whole notion that India is an ''emerging superpower'' has always been ridiculous and whoever first mooted the idea - Bill Clinton or George Bush - during the excess of goodwill that invariably accompanies a state visit, should have been bundled off to a laboratory to have his brain dissected to locate the precise site of the raving lunacy.
Even more preposterous has been the uncritical alacrity with which rich Indians embraced the notion when all they have to do is drive a few kilometres outside the big cities to rural India for a flashback to the 18th century or, even closer to home, to a nearby slum to see disease, hunger and misery that beggars belief.
The LSE study by nine India experts concludes that, despite ''impressive'' achievements, India is unlikely to become a superpower for many reasons including "the increasing gap between the rich and the poor; the trivialisation of the media; the unsustainability, in an environmental sense, of present patterns of resource consumption; the instability and policy incoherence caused by multi-party coalition governments''.
The study adds: "India still faces major developmental challenges. The still-entrenched divisions of caste structure are being compounded by the emergence of new inequalities of wealth stemming from India's economic success.''
These inequalities take your breath away. While the rich consume luxury goods and the middle class buys fancy cars and gadgets and holidays in Bangkok, they blind themselves to the reality for 700 million or so immiserated Indians.
In their vainglorious dinner-table talk about ''superpower'' status, they forget that a country that cannot meet a poor person's most basic needs - enough food, clean drinking water, and electricity - has no business aspiring to superpower status.
One has always heard that Indians have traditionally lacked a certain respect for the facts but this wilful disregard of reality is disturbing. Affluent Indians have bought the superpower fantasy not just because of a contempt for the facts, but from pride and vanity and a tendency to get all puffed up the moment the country manages any achievement.
So an obscure international award for some Indian film, a bronze medal in a sport that no one watches, an Indian company's takeover of a foreign company, or an Indian kid topping a maths exam in the US, are all trumpeted as evidence that India has conquered the world.
This is the reality: about 400 million Indians have no electricity; India has more mobile phones than toilets; millions of children are not in school; most cities have no sewage treatment systems; no major city has a continuous water supply; disease is rampant; infrastructure is pitiful; and a UNICEF report released this month says there is acute malnutrition and hunger among the urban poor, with 54 per cent more infants dying from among the urban poor than from the urban non-poor. Another UNICEF report found that 93 million Indians live in urban slums, on pavements and construction sites.
Yet should anyone plead that the poor have been left behind they will be subject to heated criticism. It hurts the pride of Indians to be reminded of the country's poverty. But the existence of poverty itself does not hurt their pride.
Economic growth rates of about 8-9 per cent over the past few years have been justifiably praiseworthy. But the benefits of this growth have been confined to the middle class and the rich.
The poor still do not have homes, basic sanitation, decent schools or nutritious food. As a young girl in American author Katherine Boo's much-acclaimed new book Behind the Beautiful Forevers, about life in a Mumbai slum, says: "We try so many things but the world doesn't move in our favour."
Middle-class Indians need to read Boo's book about life in a rat-infested hovel, near a sewage lake, with rampant dengue fever, malaria and tuberculosis, with scraps for meals, a single toilet for 100 families and then try claiming that India is becoming a superpower. There are many criteria for defining a superpower, but for India an extra one should be added. Let no one utter the world ''superpower'' till every Indian family has a toilet in their home.
Amrit Dhillon is a freelance journalist based in New Delhi.
Whilst the article itself is a little off the topic it clearly points out the attitude of some our Indian iCadet applicants who come from a rather well off background.
Shivamjoshi is described perfectly by the author, one of his own countrymen.
"One has always heard that Indians have traditionally lacked a certain respect for the facts but this wilful disregard of reality is disturbing. Affluent Indians have bought the superpower fantasy not just because of a contempt for the facts, but from pride and vanity and a tendency to get all puffed up the moment the country manages any achievement."
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Lack of experience can be overcome by high IQ and hard work. All these so called experts that had only flown small planes before going to Cathay just got lucky that they had the necessary hours to apply at the time. Now that all can apply there will be a larger pool to choose from and they can get candidates with higher IQ which is most important.
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I hate to break it to you, although as you both have such high IQ's I am surprised you don't know this, a high IQ is not the most important thing. Experience is number one when it comes to being a safe pilot.
Are you serious or is this a wind up.
Lack of experience can be overcome by high IQ and hard work. All these so called experts that had only flown small planes before going to Cathay
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It should be considered that possibly the company is looking to increase the general IQ level amongst the pilot group by hiring more Indian educated pilots. Do not be too surprised if we are able to bring many more fresh new ideas to to the cockpit!
So let me get this straight......
You wannabe muppets are proud that Indians will work for less than everyone else and because CX is offering less, that it's a perfectly justifiable proposition?
Unbelievable!!
Gents, we are all farked in the expat world.
BTW, All you wannabe's talk about how a high IQ is a requirement to be an able pilot. Actually it's common sense and the two don't necessarily go hand in hand; I've come across some extremely intelligent individuals, who thought because they were book smart, they would make able pilots. They weren't.
You wannabe muppets are proud that Indians will work for less than everyone else and because CX is offering less, that it's a perfectly justifiable proposition?
Unbelievable!!
Gents, we are all farked in the expat world.
BTW, All you wannabe's talk about how a high IQ is a requirement to be an able pilot. Actually it's common sense and the two don't necessarily go hand in hand; I've come across some extremely intelligent individuals, who thought because they were book smart, they would make able pilots. They weren't.
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@ Primed
How is your statement possible when real line pilots were taken off the interview selection panel as they weren't recommending any of the applicants?!! IE: the inexperienced (low hour) iCadets didn't meet the requirements. Experience is not something you can rote learn from a book!!
Yet again... this is someone from CX recruitment or management
A total windup!!
@shivamjoshi
Your apology is not accepted. You have already 'burnt your bridges'... you hypocrite!!
Lack of experience can be overcome by high IQ and hard work. All these so called experts that had only flown small planes before going to Cathay just got lucky that they had the necessary hours to apply at the time. Now that all can apply there will be a larger pool to choose from and they can get candidates with higher IQ which is most important.
Yet again... this is someone from CX recruitment or management
A total windup!!
@shivamjoshi
First of all, my apologies for that hateful comment that i had posted on another forum. It is hard to hold back when people attack your country. I was unable to ignore the provocations on that forum.
It is well known that flying the big airliners is all about flying the numbers as they say
Exactly what are you going to do when you have to think on your feet because the numbers don't fit a particular situation?
This like listening to Gen Y'ers on steroids, who've overdosed on SJS!
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Kenny,
Please do not be insulted by my comments. To answer your question however, high IQ and strength in mathematics show that person could indeed think on their feet. The ability to fly the numbers well should preclude getting into that situation in the first place LOL!!
Please do not be insulted by my comments. To answer your question however, high IQ and strength in mathematics show that person could indeed think on their feet. The ability to fly the numbers well should preclude getting into that situation in the first place LOL!!
To answer your question however, high IQ and strength in mathematics show that person could indeed think on their feet. The ability to fly the numbers well should preclude getting into that situation in the first place LOL!!
What I can't work out is if this comes from an overwhelming sense of arrogance, immaturity, naivety or just plain stupidity........