HKA runway incursion HKG
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Robin Boy Wonder agast with Jokers at HKA!
" Holy snappin' dim sum Batman, did you see that! The jokers at HKA have slipped another one passed the CAD! How did they cunningly do that without any haze. It must have been planned to show the incredible skills they have at demonstrating 180 turns onto active runways. What will they think of next?? " Boy Wonder turns to the Runway and sees vis down 900 metres, scatches his bat training wings, and quips, " But today, we wont see what they are doing, so it should be safe enough."
Batman says, " On the contrary Robin, load up the Batmoplane, we're off to Sanya to get to the bottoms of this."
Batman says, " On the contrary Robin, load up the Batmoplane, we're off to Sanya to get to the bottoms of this."
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Extremely disappointed with the article. Simon Parry had downplayed the seriousness of the incident.
Seems plausible that CAD officials are taking kickbacks (cheap whores/dimsum??) from those scumbags. Contemplating to lodge a complaint [incognito] to ICAC. We can't cheat death thrice!!!
Seems plausible that CAD officials are taking kickbacks (cheap whores/dimsum??) from those scumbags. Contemplating to lodge a complaint [incognito] to ICAC. We can't cheat death thrice!!!
Yes, well done to the fairly newly rated guy in the tower for spotting the incursion in time.
Lets hope his eyes aren't too glazed over to spot the next one after he reads his payslip this morning.
What's that- 5 pay cuts and 2 pay freezes in the last 10 years?
Lets hope his eyes aren't too glazed over to spot the next one after he reads his payslip this morning.
What's that- 5 pay cuts and 2 pay freezes in the last 10 years?
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Tenerife in the making
Story is the Tower guy saved the day, not the nut holding the control column on the HKA73. It could have been a very different outcome. 
So this airline has passed all the necessary safety audits required by the CAD? Me thinks not.
The Challenge is to see the SCMP rise to mark, correct the story and get to the bottom of the rot, expose all. Obviously forked tongues are becoming endemic at HKA and CAD?
So this airline has passed all the necessary safety audits required by the CAD? Me thinks not.
The Challenge is to see the SCMP rise to mark, correct the story and get to the bottom of the rot, expose all. Obviously forked tongues are becoming endemic at HKA and CAD?
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How hard is it
CLK would have to be one of the most straight forward airports to taxi around even for visiting airlines let alone those that call it "home".
Hope these useless pricks never have to have a crack at finding there way around Narita at night.
Hope these useless pricks never have to have a crack at finding there way around Narita at night.
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I have to agree, you can't get a more easy and clear taxiway then HKG. How HKA keep on messing it up is a real mystery. Then again, given the questionable quality of it's management, it's no real surprise, is it?
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You're right. Its all down to management and they are the ones who should be held accountable for this.
Good place to start would be to find out how Richard Lai (who failed miserably at his TRE and was told not to come back) somehow managed to get one thru a non CAD approved organisation. The ignorant and stupid leading the ignorant and stupid.
Good place to start would be to find out how Richard Lai (who failed miserably at his TRE and was told not to come back) somehow managed to get one thru a non CAD approved organisation. The ignorant and stupid leading the ignorant and stupid.
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God help them if they end up at night in Narita! That will cause chaos! But then, the Japanese are probably not as easy to coerce or hoodwink as the CAD so they probably won't get away with it there!
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ok guys, you think you are all professionals, not really...
pls respect the truth but you never did
that was a dark night, hka cleared to taxi j j1 holding point 07R for departure, when they turned to j7 before stop bar stopped by themselves.
they told ground control position and waitted for further instructions that is normal procedure for professional pilots when they facing problems on ground manoeuvre.
in the meantime, a CX cleared for take off at 07R threshold and cancelled for take off by tower in a second,CX vacated ruway via j2 afterwards that was not like newspaper showed us he took off in 25L,sucks! wrong information to the public, so bad!!!
when ruway was clear,hka cleared to enter the ruway via j7 vacate via j8 by tower and join j taxiway continued his trip.
from j2 to j7 stop bar about 3000 meters long so how do you think 777 's wingspan....?
so how can you blame them befor you know the truth?
as professionals we may facing problems upon airplnes moving whenever on ground or in the air, that's your risky job, you think you never ever facing a problem in your life? come on...
good for hka guys this time, they just keep quiet and wait for justice
pls respect the truth but you never did
that was a dark night, hka cleared to taxi j j1 holding point 07R for departure, when they turned to j7 before stop bar stopped by themselves.
they told ground control position and waitted for further instructions that is normal procedure for professional pilots when they facing problems on ground manoeuvre.
in the meantime, a CX cleared for take off at 07R threshold and cancelled for take off by tower in a second,CX vacated ruway via j2 afterwards that was not like newspaper showed us he took off in 25L,sucks! wrong information to the public, so bad!!!
when ruway was clear,hka cleared to enter the ruway via j7 vacate via j8 by tower and join j taxiway continued his trip.
from j2 to j7 stop bar about 3000 meters long so how do you think 777 's wingspan....?
so how can you blame them befor you know the truth?
as professionals we may facing problems upon airplnes moving whenever on ground or in the air, that's your risky job, you think you never ever facing a problem in your life? come on...
good for hka guys this time, they just keep quiet and wait for justice
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TRUESTORY???.......another pathetic BAD ENGRISH disguise. A very bad attempt by the singasnakes to TRY and cover their miserable pathetic operation and prevent the truth.
You snakes truly are a disgrace to the human race.
You snakes truly are a disgrace to the human race.
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''That was a dark night.'' As opposed to needing a full moon to see the taxiway boards and green centrelines.
At least they had the sense to stop at a red stopbar,unlike a couple of other airlines in the early day,who still fly there.
So the runway incursion actually wasn't,just a switched on controller taking very prompt action,because two dopes behind the wheel got a bit lost.Or was it?
I used to use H whenever possible because funnily enough I thought there was a possibility of someone getting lost down there.If you missed H then J was available.If you miss J the next stop is the runway.However I never thought I would be proved right.
At least they had the sense to stop at a red stopbar,unlike a couple of other airlines in the early day,who still fly there.
So the runway incursion actually wasn't,just a switched on controller taking very prompt action,because two dopes behind the wheel got a bit lost.Or was it?
I used to use H whenever possible because funnily enough I thought there was a possibility of someone getting lost down there.If you missed H then J was available.If you miss J the next stop is the runway.However I never thought I would be proved right.
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that was a dark night
told ground control position and waitted for further instructions that is normal procedure for professional pilots when they facing problems on ground manoeuvre.
from j2 to j7 stop bar about 3000 meters long so how do you think 777 's wingspan....?
good for hka guys this time, they just keep quiet and wait for justice
Face the facts singasnake....there is no excuse for your existence in aviation. Go home.
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Perhaps the lessons from Milan are more relevant.
Tenerife wasn't a runway incursion,it was taking off without clearance.Both aircraft were on the runway with the knowledge of the controller.
In single runway CLK days if you used the phraseology ''Be ready immediate'' to some nameless Chinese airlines,they would roll anyway.I had several that took off without clearance,and it was easier to let it go,because the lander was just vacating.Tenerife several times over.
Perhaps this should be a lesson to everyone,that incidents/accidents can happen when all the factors line up and to anyone.
Tenerife wasn't a runway incursion,it was taking off without clearance.Both aircraft were on the runway with the knowledge of the controller.
In single runway CLK days if you used the phraseology ''Be ready immediate'' to some nameless Chinese airlines,they would roll anyway
.I had several that took off without clearance,and it was easier to let it go,because the lander was just vacating.Tenerife several times over.Perhaps this should be a lesson to everyone,that incidents/accidents can happen when all the factors line up and to anyone.
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Im trying to figure out which management idiot truestory is......clearly not a pilot, because I can't begin to fathom the stupidity of that post, simply unbelievable garbage
tsimbeit.....is your recital an attempt at an explanation, or highlighting what might have been.....?
I cannot see how a "professional" crew could cross 2 taxiways and turn up a high speed exit....its not like they're not clearly lit and signed....mind you, it was a "dark night"
Arent they all?
tsimbeit.....is your recital an attempt at an explanation, or highlighting what might have been.....?
I cannot see how a "professional" crew could cross 2 taxiways and turn up a high speed exit....its not like they're not clearly lit and signed....mind you, it was a "dark night"
Arent they all?
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Tsimbeit,
I've been do'n this a long time, and there are two things for sure. Arrogrance kills and there is nothing that gets my attention more than taxing or worse backtaxing on the active when its WOXOF.
BS
I've been do'n this a long time, and there are two things for sure. Arrogrance kills and there is nothing that gets my attention more than taxing or worse backtaxing on the active when its WOXOF.
BS
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Bluestar,
I must disagree about your comment on 'arrogance'. Arrogance is a pre-requisite at CX and we have never killed anyone.
What will kill people is lack of flying ability and decision making that the Singawhores seem incapable of achieving.
These guys are the laughing stock of SQ. Had a beer with some of the SQ guys that know the management at HKA. I was told that guys like SW, RL, PK etc etc had always struggled at SQ. None of them were even considered for command. The fact of the matter is that they shouldnt have been considered for S/O positions at SQ.
I must disagree about your comment on 'arrogance'. Arrogance is a pre-requisite at CX and we have never killed anyone.
What will kill people is lack of flying ability and decision making that the Singawhores seem incapable of achieving.
These guys are the laughing stock of SQ. Had a beer with some of the SQ guys that know the management at HKA. I was told that guys like SW, RL, PK etc etc had always struggled at SQ. None of them were even considered for command. The fact of the matter is that they shouldnt have been considered for S/O positions at SQ.