HKA runway incursion HKG
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Did Bruce write this?
Gengis,
That is ludicrous! Surely the pilots didn't have to know that drivel! No wonder he turned up the wrong taxiway. That is extremely infantile and professionally demeaning to have to even attempt to read that, let alone try understand it. I did lay on my floor and roll around with tears in my eyes when I read it.....it's gotta be joke...come on tell me it is....please!
Did the author of this come out of some second rate Kung Fu movie in the 70's? I can imagine Master One Eat Tun applying severe punishments (sic) for not comprehending words spoken from lips that never part. Aussiestink, if you are prepared to defend drivel like this, then you and your company deserve the lamb basting you are getting - sorry to say.
As for the matter of the incident, there has been a pathetic attempt by numerous to get away from the issue at point. It would be interesting to see what the full investigation brings out. Oh, now there's a question. Who is doing the investigation? The management of HKA?
You poor bastards!
That is ludicrous! Surely the pilots didn't have to know that drivel! No wonder he turned up the wrong taxiway. That is extremely infantile and professionally demeaning to have to even attempt to read that, let alone try understand it. I did lay on my floor and roll around with tears in my eyes when I read it.....it's gotta be joke...come on tell me it is....please!
Did the author of this come out of some second rate Kung Fu movie in the 70's? I can imagine Master One Eat Tun applying severe punishments (sic) for not comprehending words spoken from lips that never part. Aussiestink, if you are prepared to defend drivel like this, then you and your company deserve the lamb basting you are getting - sorry to say.
As for the matter of the incident, there has been a pathetic attempt by numerous to get away from the issue at point. It would be interesting to see what the full investigation brings out. Oh, now there's a question. Who is doing the investigation? The management of HKA?
You poor bastards!
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Ah, but Bob, you need to remember that "Harmony is the basis for collective prosperity", "Modesty is the best policy in human relationship" and "Prudence remains essential in conducting business."
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404 titan,
The single runway ops 07R used to be from fading memory vacating aircraft use J6 and J7 were to continue on J.Outbounds from the north apron would use V and H.Inbounds to North/West aprons were to use W.Your nasty point was J7 into W,versus H to the holding points.In low vis GMS would monitor it closely on SMR,and if the vis was that bad then slow it down.I did my check out in RVR conditions,single runway on 25L.No one had seen it for real,so I had an audience.Passed as well.
I see what you're saying but in practice it shouldn't happen.Then again J7 shouldn't be used as a runway entrance point,even if it was a very dark night.
The single runway ops 07R used to be from fading memory vacating aircraft use J6 and J7 were to continue on J.Outbounds from the north apron would use V and H.Inbounds to North/West aprons were to use W.Your nasty point was J7 into W,versus H to the holding points.In low vis GMS would monitor it closely on SMR,and if the vis was that bad then slow it down.I did my check out in RVR conditions,single runway on 25L.No one had seen it for real,so I had an audience.Passed as well.
I see what you're saying but in practice it shouldn't happen.Then again J7 shouldn't be used as a runway entrance point,even if it was a very dark night.
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I too work for HKA. Not management, but someone "in the know". I have to say we have nothing to do with that load of b.s., bob hawke and gengis. It stems from, how do I put it, different management philisophy.
I hate to say this, but you guys are really a group of pathetic thin-skinned lot. You banned aussiestinks because he disagrees with you? Well, boohoohoo. His username isn't the best, to put it kindy, but so what if he hurt your "feelings". Give me a break. If you guys got guts, then you should reinstate him. Otherwise, you are just a bunch of inbreeds.
As for this runway incursion, I think I know who the pilots are. I may reveal it to you when the time is right. Do you want to know? I have to be careful since HKA may be monitoring this forum, but if the chances present itself, I just might slip my tongue.
I hate to say this, but you guys are really a group of pathetic thin-skinned lot. You banned aussiestinks because he disagrees with you? Well, boohoohoo. His username isn't the best, to put it kindy, but so what if he hurt your "feelings". Give me a break. If you guys got guts, then you should reinstate him. Otherwise, you are just a bunch of inbreeds.
As for this runway incursion, I think I know who the pilots are. I may reveal it to you when the time is right. Do you want to know? I have to be careful since HKA may be monitoring this forum, but if the chances present itself, I just might slip my tongue.
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HKAForever,
This is just my pure speculation. Are you Aussietinks? If that is the case, there is no point to reinstate Aussietinks. You could start using HKAForever to express your opinions and displayed your patriotism towards HX. I assume the majority of us are receptive to all kinds of feedback.
This is just my pure speculation. Are you Aussietinks? If that is the case, there is no point to reinstate Aussietinks. You could start using HKAForever to express your opinions and displayed your patriotism towards HX. I assume the majority of us are receptive to all kinds of feedback.
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Suggestion for ATC - give all Bohenia aircaft with a radio call, a 20nm safety envelope. Let them back to HKG once all other real airlines have landed and are at a safe distance.
Brilliant CAD should adopt the above procedure ASAP!
Brilliant CAD should adopt the above procedure ASAP!
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I am not aussiestinks, don't know who he is. Just been reading your comments here, so chip in with my view. I am someone else working at HX. Have to be real careful, because this is more then a hunch, I have strong info on who the "wrong turn" pilots are. I will let you know, the heat is getting turned on at HX. Maybe real heads will roll this time, but don't quote me on this. Have to watch out for the spyware.
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Well I feel so much better that you clarified that for us Agnes. Keep up the good work.
Judging by your name "aussiestinks" and your posts you have a severe case of inferiority complex. In no way have any of my posts been directed at you personally until now.
If you are the type to allow yourself to be treated in the manner the snakes treat their employees, then I have no respect for you. And you are the part of the very reason why there are so many low paid jobs now.
Seems to me you as well just don't "get it" as to why these posts are here, so perhaps rather than get your panties in a twist, work on your confidence, stand up for your hard work to become a pilot, and help get rid of these singa snakes so HKA and HKE can progress and reach the potential it has.
Judging by your name "aussiestinks" and your posts you have a severe case of inferiority complex. In no way have any of my posts been directed at you personally until now.
If you are the type to allow yourself to be treated in the manner the snakes treat their employees, then I have no respect for you. And you are the part of the very reason why there are so many low paid jobs now.
Seems to me you as well just don't "get it" as to why these posts are here, so perhaps rather than get your panties in a twist, work on your confidence, stand up for your hard work to become a pilot, and help get rid of these singa snakes so HKA and HKE can progress and reach the potential it has.
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The one and only aussiestinks is back from the land of the banned! I missed you all and all the insults you hurl at me ! Apologies to all who were offended by my anti-aussie comments. And to moderator, yes I will change my username, just want to say a few words before I get the new name.
Mass debator, oi, I get it just fine, buddy. I'm defending the employees, not Lim and his lot. And as for "respect"? Well I'm not looking for your respect, I'm just trying express my views. Maybe I was a bit blunt, but hey, that's just who I am. Now don't be offended, all I'm saying is that in addition to HKA's nasty management, you are also steamed because you were laid off/resigned. That's only natural. I took psychology courses once and I would be steamed too if I got fired unreasonably by incompetent management who scews the airline. You know, like they hurt you, and you want to hurt them back.
But that's water under the bridge, the more relevant issue is quality and standard of certain pilots at HKA and how management ignores or abuse us. Why do I still stay? Because I have a little influence and I am trying to change the airline from "within". Maybe you think I am a misguided fool. Maybe I am, but I won't quit unless I give it a shot. If I play my cards right, I might just get a direct line to Li Xiaoming himself.
HKAforever: Nice to know a fellow guy. And yes, based on 404 Titan's implication and my own investigation and I have pretty good solid evidence who the "wrong turn" pilots are. Darn, to all you ppruners, this whole "wrong turn/runway incursion" business may just be the tip of the iceberg.
One final parting shot. As to why i have this soon to be ex-username. Well, sorry to say, some of you guys really stink, man. The whole cockpit reeks after you sat in them. Take a shower, man! And you will be horrified to know, you aussies share this same problem with the Indonesians. You guys are always at each other throat on pprune. But you must shock to know you both stink and is urgent need of a bath!. There off my chest. Until my new username, later.
Mass debator, oi, I get it just fine, buddy. I'm defending the employees, not Lim and his lot. And as for "respect"? Well I'm not looking for your respect, I'm just trying express my views. Maybe I was a bit blunt, but hey, that's just who I am. Now don't be offended, all I'm saying is that in addition to HKA's nasty management, you are also steamed because you were laid off/resigned. That's only natural. I took psychology courses once and I would be steamed too if I got fired unreasonably by incompetent management who scews the airline. You know, like they hurt you, and you want to hurt them back.
But that's water under the bridge, the more relevant issue is quality and standard of certain pilots at HKA and how management ignores or abuse us. Why do I still stay? Because I have a little influence and I am trying to change the airline from "within". Maybe you think I am a misguided fool. Maybe I am, but I won't quit unless I give it a shot. If I play my cards right, I might just get a direct line to Li Xiaoming himself.
HKAforever: Nice to know a fellow guy. And yes, based on 404 Titan's implication and my own investigation and I have pretty good solid evidence who the "wrong turn" pilots are. Darn, to all you ppruners, this whole "wrong turn/runway incursion" business may just be the tip of the iceberg.
One final parting shot. As to why i have this soon to be ex-username. Well, sorry to say, some of you guys really stink, man. The whole cockpit reeks after you sat in them. Take a shower, man! And you will be horrified to know, you aussies share this same problem with the Indonesians. You guys are always at each other throat on pprune. But you must shock to know you both stink and is urgent need of a bath!. There off my chest. Until my new username, later.