True Color Of Hka
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From: uranus
True Color Of Hka
Despite all the other locals (CX and KA) cancelling all flights during recent typhoon - and I might add, a whole bunch of other airlines with common sense, HKA and HKE were the only airlines STUPID enough to keep operating.
Company SOPS state, max take off x-wind wet=25kts.
X-Wind that day? 35kts gusting up to 50kts
Atleast one pilot(western) was smart enough to delay take off until tower report a lull in wind. The others? (Indo snake type) Didn't bother to check wind and just took off anyway. Exceeding company - aircraft limits - and no doubt well exceeding their own limits.
A true indication of these guys mentallity and arrogance. I feel for the pax and cabin crew.
The email sent to crew detailing no tolerance for non-compliance to sops must have been just an ego trip by the managers coz their staff certainly didn't comply. What will happen? NOTHING. It'll get swept under the carpet, just like the death threat, sexual harrassement, and all the other hard QAR's by these guys.
Sadly, it'll take a serious accident for anything to happen, and not after we all warned about it.
Well done HKA and HKE, your antics that day do show us how stupid you really are.
[I wonder how long this post will stay before it gets deleted by the snakes?]
Company SOPS state, max take off x-wind wet=25kts.
X-Wind that day? 35kts gusting up to 50kts
Atleast one pilot(western) was smart enough to delay take off until tower report a lull in wind. The others? (Indo snake type) Didn't bother to check wind and just took off anyway. Exceeding company - aircraft limits - and no doubt well exceeding their own limits.
A true indication of these guys mentallity and arrogance. I feel for the pax and cabin crew.
The email sent to crew detailing no tolerance for non-compliance to sops must have been just an ego trip by the managers coz their staff certainly didn't comply. What will happen? NOTHING. It'll get swept under the carpet, just like the death threat, sexual harrassement, and all the other hard QAR's by these guys.
Sadly, it'll take a serious accident for anything to happen, and not after we all warned about it.
Well done HKA and HKE, your antics that day do show us how stupid you really are.
[I wonder how long this post will stay before it gets deleted by the snakes?]
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From: Mt Druitt
We had a huge laugh! 
"Tower, we need at least 25 kts crosswind."
"Bo....., wind 010 degrees, 29 kts gusting 40 kts, clear for take off."
"Clear for take-off Bo... XXX."
Good one boys
Everyone else was sitting at the holding point or at the bays, not these guys 
"Tower, we need at least 25 kts crosswind."
"Bo....., wind 010 degrees, 29 kts gusting 40 kts, clear for take off."
"Clear for take-off Bo... XXX."
Good one boys
Everyone else was sitting at the holding point or at the bays, not these guys
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From: UAE
Fixer ups
The malaise of western pilots ( or so called pilots ) in Asia, Middle East, Africa, Oceania and Latin Americas.......fixing up local natives for the fall. justified or not.
Heard that in KAL, an Ozzie skipper stabbed a Korean crew in the back by going out of protocol to report a violation ( albeit a correct action but highly underhanded ). In HKG, these bunch of human dregs at work!
Heard that in KAL, an Ozzie skipper stabbed a Korean crew in the back by going out of protocol to report a violation ( albeit a correct action but highly underhanded ). In HKG, these bunch of human dregs at work!
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From: asia
Translation please someone 
Is this moron saying its a western pilots fault these other morons exceeded x-wind limits on T/O, I thought they had mids of their own.
Good one, brain surgeon.
Is this moron saying its a western pilots fault these other morons exceeded x-wind limits on T/O, I thought they had mids of their own.
Heard that in KAL, an Ozzie skipper stabbed a Korean crew in the back by going out of protocol to report a violation ( albeit a correct action but highly underhanded ).
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From: No Fixed Abode
Some help for Mats abo
Dear Mats, just a few little pointers to help you identify your particular affliction. It is called an "Inferiority Complex" and can be identified by the following characteristics:
1. Sensitivity To Criticism: Although people who feel inferior “know” they have shortcomings, they do not like other people to point this out. They tend to perceive any form of criticism, regardless of how sensitively or constructively it is presented, as a personal attack.
2. Tendency Toward Blaming: Some people project their perceived weaknesses onto others in order to lessen the pain of feeling inferior. From here, it is only a short step to blaming others for one’s failures.
3. Feelings Of Persecution: Carried to its extreme, blaming others can extend to believing that others are actively seeking to ruin you. It allows people to avoid personal responsibility for their failure.
Now the fact that particular people have recently chosen to operate their aircraft outside the manufacturers limitations is indeed a point in fact, not an attack on your "good name"
or your country of birth. The fact that most airline accidents appear to occur in certain parts of the world is a point in fact, not an attack on your "good name" or your country of birth.
So it would probably be best for the future if you were to seek out some professional help for the symptoms that have manifested in your good self. This help will no doubt ensure that you are able to maintain your "good name" now and well into the future.
1. Sensitivity To Criticism: Although people who feel inferior “know” they have shortcomings, they do not like other people to point this out. They tend to perceive any form of criticism, regardless of how sensitively or constructively it is presented, as a personal attack.
2. Tendency Toward Blaming: Some people project their perceived weaknesses onto others in order to lessen the pain of feeling inferior. From here, it is only a short step to blaming others for one’s failures.
3. Feelings Of Persecution: Carried to its extreme, blaming others can extend to believing that others are actively seeking to ruin you. It allows people to avoid personal responsibility for their failure.
Now the fact that particular people have recently chosen to operate their aircraft outside the manufacturers limitations is indeed a point in fact, not an attack on your "good name"
or your country of birth. The fact that most airline accidents appear to occur in certain parts of the world is a point in fact, not an attack on your "good name" or your country of birth.So it would probably be best for the future if you were to seek out some professional help for the symptoms that have manifested in your good self. This help will no doubt ensure that you are able to maintain your "good name"
now and well into the future.
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From: Southeast Asia
HongKong Fooey...
were you not good enough to make the cut back home?
another QF reject?
As for having the last laughs.....I doubt you have those rights. How many pay-cuts have you experienced in your career over here? Yet you bent over and took it with a grin?? haha
Loser.
The sad part is you don't even know it.
were you not good enough to make the cut back home?
another QF reject?
As for having the last laughs.....I doubt you have those rights. How many pay-cuts have you experienced in your career over here? Yet you bent over and took it with a grin?? haha
Loser.
The sad part is you don't even know it.
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From: asia
UNcontrolled Idiot, I actually left a good job in Oz to come over here and get paid twice what I was getting back home......................and twice as much as you
All these foreigners coming over, " acting like they own the place ", and getting paid more than you can ever dream of, I can understand your bitterness ( oh, and all your local girls like us too for some reason 
)
So sorry
All these foreigners coming over, " acting like they own the place ", and getting paid more than you can ever dream of
, I can understand your bitterness ( oh, and all your local girls like us too for some reason )So sorry
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From: Southeast Asia
UNcontrolled Idiot, I actually left a good job in Oz to come over here and get paid twice what I was getting back home......................and twice as much as you 
All these foreigners coming over, " acting like they own the place ", and getting paid more than you can ever dream of, I can understand your bitterness ( oh, and all your local girls like us too for some reason 
)
So sorry
All these foreigners coming over, " acting like they own the place ", and getting paid more than you can ever dream of
, I can understand your bitterness ( oh, and all your local girls like us too for some reason )So sorry
I don't know of any expat who would rather be in Hong Kong than their home countries. They (you) all came here because you're the left-overs back home.
And how is it that you're getting paid twice as much as a LP when the pay scale is the same? Unless you're blowing NR and Tony Tyler on the side for some extra cash?
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From: Honkers
controlledCHAOS
Fu@k me you are a bitter little man.
Well I would rather live in HK than my home country due to the weather, high tax and crime rates. I left a very decent jet job to come here. I enjoy it and will stay for a long time....I hope that pi@@es you off.
I also asked you, who do you work for??????
Fu@k me you are a bitter little man.
I don't know of any expat who would rather be in Hong Kong than their home countries. They (you) all came here because you're the left-overs back home
Well I would rather live in HK than my home country due to the weather, high tax and crime rates. I left a very decent jet job to come here. I enjoy it and will stay for a long time....I hope that pi@@es you off.
I also asked you, who do you work for??????
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From: No Fixed Abode
Thanks for your admission of being a complete loser. You came to HKG to get paid twice as much as your job back home!...What does that say? It says that you are not competent enough to secure a decent job in your own country! Hence you traveled half way across the world to find employment.
It's a funny thing really, Hong Kong's wealth was made (rightly or wrongly) by those incompetent bigoted loser expat colonial opium trading bastards that you despise so vehemently, but you are still willing to take part in it all and enjoy the fruits of history. I am in no way condoning what transpired here over a century ago, but I do recognise a hypocrite when I see one. Problem is........your not really bright enough to recognise it.