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Old 10th Apr 2008, 05:14
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3
BusyB

No. Because nobody really cares.
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Old 10th Apr 2008, 05:17
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hotel California
Posts: 12
BusyB,

Does that not depend on what price you sold your CX share options at? or were they part of an earlier deal?
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Old 10th Apr 2008, 05:34
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Britain
Posts: 62
>if it was cleudo you were playing you would be out now
>with two wrong guesses!

Oh bollocks NC - BusyB is your GC "budd" Nick.
Speaking of cleudo, interestingly his initials are NC.
Birds of a feather do flock together.
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Old 10th Apr 2008, 17:47
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: 'round here
Posts: 394
Too much misinformation on here, I sense the AOA knives are coming out.
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Old 11th Apr 2008, 06:12
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 619
simplex,
keep guessing - only about 18GC members left to guess so you will get it right eventually!

stillalbatross,
what are you getting at? Maybe I am a little thick or you are too subtle?

BusyB,
yes I could work it out and no I haven't. I find it best to deal with what I have rather than what I might have had as that makes me angry and I don't fly well angry.
I do remember that back in 99 I worked out that the CX share price had to rise to about $40-50 by 2004 for me to recover the lost earnings. I switched mine at $10-11 thanks to a change in my personal circumstances!
I also remember being told that the options were only to cover the career earnings lost for 10 years as by then B scales will have caught up with A scales. So on that basis, B scalers can look forward to a 20-30% payrise next Jan in order for CX to stand by its commitments...then again, maybe it was a zoologist commitment like the "10% above our competitor's salary"! Another 'binding in honour only' promise methinks.
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 06:08
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 85
Devil

With fewer than half the pilots in the AOA any talk of action is just talk. Even when we had over 90% of the pilots too many did not follow through during the go-slow.

This survey is a waste of time.

What the AOA must do is contact all of the 'quitters' and find out why they quit. The issues raised must then be addressed. Without the members the AOA is nothing.

The f**king stupid employment ban didn't help. Only meant that new joiners flipped the bird and came to CX anyway.

No doubt I will be flamed for this post...those that quit did so for many valid reasons. It takes a lot of courage to do so - it is harder than just going with the flow. The AOA must change its way and get the membership numbers up.
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 08:01
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 85
False promises

Mr Bloggs wrote:

'BTW, last time most voted for industrial action with no intention of doing so, but rather see other colleagues do their dirty work for them. Well you know the rest. Men of character.'

Many members were told to vote for industrial action to 'send a strong message to the management'.

I fully agree that if you vote for action then you must follow through. Too many wanted to 'send the message' to management. It was also not helpful to ask members to vote for action but not to tell them what that action would be. Nigel argued that it was to limit the ability of management to respond (to what turned out to be a go-slow), in effect it meant that it was too easy for too many not to take action.
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