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Old 27th Mar 2008, 08:55
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AOA Survey

Only about 540 people have completed the survey!
That's only about half of the membership of the AOA alone.
Come on guys pull your fingers out!
It only takes 5 minutes of your precious time.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 11:15
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just done it. it takes 4 minutes to have a say in your career.
remember login details are in an email from the AOA.
btw how would a non-member complete the survey if he/she doesn't have login details?
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 12:35
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Ring the AOA 2736-0823, they will email you login details which enable you to answer anonymously
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 12:37
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A reminder, engaging in any kind of industrial action with The Cathay Pacific Group will have a direct impact on some careers. Are you willing to take that risk?

Where will you go to find employment? Will your colleagues support you? I think we all know the answers.

Choose wisely.

To My Bonus

The Management
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 12:52
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Where will you go to find employment?
Lots of choices out there...
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 14:22
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That guy pretending to be management isn't still trolling around these parts is he?

Ignore the Dd
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 14:40
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Why do non-members have a say?
If you pay you have a say, if you don't pay, who cares!
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 19:26
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Because the AOA wants to know the overall feelings of the entire pilot force. Members get to vote on any item negotiated.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 23:31
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if they actually replied to emails requesting the password then there would be more respondants
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 01:19
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Hey management if there was industrial action I agree it would effect some careers! Namely YOURS!
Choose wisely, as where are you going to go with your fantastic people dealing skills in your resume?
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 01:37
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Sorry, Comms problems last week but now restored to normal
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 01:52
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12 years to command now thanks to the AOA.

Why bother?
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 02:04
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stillalbatross,

Please tell me how many years to command it said you would take in your contract?
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 02:29
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Post Just Do It !

MEMBER OR NON-MEMBER
The survey can be found at the following address:

If you do not have your login information please contact the AOA office [email protected] or phone 2736-0823.
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 04:10
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Try Again If Necessary

if they actually replied to emails requesting the password then there would be more respondants
The AOA server was down for a few days last week and they 'lost' several emails - mine as well. I phoned and got my password, later confirmed by email so all is woirking now.
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 04:36
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Please tell me how many years to command it said you would take in your contract?
The AOA said that there would only be a month or so added on from their ASL additions. It is closer to 3 or 4 years. Without the AOA in existence we'd all still be looking at tops 8-9 years.

Are you trying to say that commands at CX occurring considerably quicker than at legacy carriers haven't been a strong draw card for pilots coming here? So you'd still have come if commands were going from 8 to 18 or 20 years?

Pull the other one.
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 05:09
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I came when commands were running at 6-7 years. Mine took 14. Perhaps all the AOA members at that time should have had a whip around to make up my salary!!!

As far as ASL goes that cost me 3-4 years and if the freighters come back onto the seniority list to prevent out of seniority commands it can only be a reduction in time to command.

RA65 is different, yes there may be an increase in time to command. Without bypass pay you would not be compensated as I wasn't.
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Old 29th Mar 2008, 15:41
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RA65 is different, yes there may be an increase in time to command
And the 'Understatement of the Year' award goes to........................
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 03:12
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Stilalbatross

"The AOA said that there would only be a month or so added on from their ASL additions. It is closer to 3 or 4 years"

I assume you mean the 2nd Integration... throw me a lifeline here... How has the integration increased your time to comand..?
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 13:20
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:Mine took 14

BusyB you're a B scaler, a GC negotiator, a training captain and joined Jul94.
Your numbers don't add up. The NCer would not be happy.
Why would you be bullshitting in PPRuNe?
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