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The Demise of Hong Kong Airlines

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The Demise of Hong Kong Airlines

Old 20th Mar 2012, 10:14
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Given an unlimited supply of it money, I would certainly never visit China, HK, Taiwan or most of Asia every again, let alone work here.
No wonder you are so miserable and angry. You should just leave now. Muppet.
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 12:33
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Is it possible for a HKA A330 skipper to commute within Asia?
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 00:54
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No skippers may commute in Asia.
Only F/O'S.

Where you wanna commute to?
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 01:35
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Algol, do you mean that the rosters make it difficult to commute, or that the company require Captains to live in HK? Just wondering if they get enough days in a row to commute to Thailand or Malaysia for instance. How many days off do you get on average?
Thanks.
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 02:03
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This Demise is taking a long time!!
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 03:17
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All those recalcitrants, doomsayers, mischievious renegades, etc tried their very best to bring doom and gloom if not the eventual demise of HKA. Maybe they will try this; looks like most descendants of colonisers teach their offsprings to kick the down trodden :

China Stories: 10-YEAR-OLD SOCCER PLAYER ARRESTED IN Hong Kong FOR THIS ‘DIRTY’ KICK TO AN OPPONENT’S HEADChina Stories: 10-YEAR-OLD SOCCER PLAYER ARRESTED IN Hong Kong FOR THIS ‘DIRTY’ KICK TO AN OPPONENT’S HEAD

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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 04:12
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How are they going with the London flights? I guess with all those high yield pax on board they must be raking in the cash? And seeing as they are operating to London at this time of year I assume they must have their LVO approvals by now?
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 09:29
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17 on their first flight!
 
Old 23rd Mar 2012, 12:11
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Devine Wind

Try and get the London airports correct, try LGW.

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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 13:37
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Sorry, my bad. My mate there must be talking crap.
 
Old 25th Mar 2012, 09:27
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Average 20 pax and no LWMO on the horizon
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 09:29
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You forgot to mention they failed to land on the inaugural flight to TPE leaving furious pax 17 hours in the aircraft on a 1.5hour flight.
NO LWMO
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 09:33
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Having all the money in the world as backing is no substitute for professionalism in the cockpit,and there's a very good reason why HKG CAD wont give them ETOPS-LWMO-UPGRADES.???!!!
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 09:37
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With unstable rosters no one has a chance of commuting
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 02:35
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Not sure about the loads to TPE but its common knowledge that loads to LGW are low due to the poor press that HKA has be getting .The TPE was all over the local HKG press about how come all other carriers managed to land whilst HKA could not.Furthermore they keep annoying pax to the extent they refuse to get off unless compensated.This has happened more than once.It seems HKA has a lot of inexperience in management pilots that will need to be addressed before they are granted normal airline status by the regulating authorities .
Lets hope the HKG CAD do their job and sort them out so that professional pilots can aspire to normal operations and careers.
There is no other reason why HKA cannot make a killing on the LGW or TPE routes as they have traditionally been profitable to all other carriers
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 05:15
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For a bit of info on loss if licence. I have cover till age 55, which costs just under 26000HKD per year. Also the medical cover companies in HK provide requires the employee to top up, otherwise the cover is minimal. The top up I pay is 14000HKD per year. So as you can see, these two total 40K per year, so not an insignificant amount. If you come to HK with a family, then insurance with top up is a necessity. The company provided insurance plan with not cover very much and it can be very costly if you dont have sufficient cover.

As for any other insurance provided by a company, be aware that companies do not like parting with their money and it can take years to actually receive a payment. Some one has mentioned here a payout of 80,000usd, that wont cover much at all, perhaps write down what that money could buy versus what will be needed, you might be surprised at how much more you will need.
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 12:15
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Reports from BBC and CNN about HKA's new service

BBC News - Fast Track - Is the time right for business-only flights?



CNN.com International - Breaking, World, Business, Sports, Entertainment and Video News
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 12:43
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Kathey

Living in HK, and the cost has nothing to do with it as we come from different walks of life. Not everyone wakes up in the morning facing the life you live.
You pass on information first hand Yes...from your Negative point of view, because you are miserable, and Self Destructive.
Since you are so unhappy in HK, Why don't you go to the sandpit....I think you will be right at home there LOL

That's all I got to say about that......you can have the last word

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Old 29th Mar 2012, 07:36
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Hi There

I am considering HKA. Can anyone highlight the T&C for me, please?

1: Salary(Basic +allowance)

2: Commandupgrade criteria A330

3: Blockdays off/commuting

4: Rosterstability

5: AverageBlock Hrs/Months



THX
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Old 29th Mar 2012, 10:05
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Devine Wind

What exactly do you do and where do you live?
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