how Many are leaving ??
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how Many are leaving ??
I hear quite a few guys are off to UPS/Fedx from the US bases, many driven by the "Fear Factor" associated with the wonderful CX training machine.................................but to add insult to injury the word is that several guys are giving notice to join Oasis.......................
'bout time for that elusive pay rise ???
anyone any accurate info as to how many are jumping ship ???
'bout time for that elusive pay rise ???
anyone any accurate info as to how many are jumping ship ???
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In January, there were about 9. Not sure where they all went.
I ran across a piece of paper on a desk of a manager in the crew leave/license office on the 3rd that was labeled "RESIGNEEs" and just had a glance at it before she quickly jerked it out of my view.
Not just FEDEX/UPS doing the damage, lots are returning to United.
I wonder what made CX think they could retain these people once the dusts settle in the U.S.
Arrogance? no not Cathay management!!
I ran across a piece of paper on a desk of a manager in the crew leave/license office on the 3rd that was labeled "RESIGNEEs" and just had a glance at it before she quickly jerked it out of my view.
Not just FEDEX/UPS doing the damage, lots are returning to United.
I wonder what made CX think they could retain these people once the dusts settle in the U.S.
Arrogance? no not Cathay management!!
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Are they leaving for pension's and medical benefits?
Maybe we should polish those fancy new jets we're getting!
Face it guys, they won't give us a pay-rise until it's way too late.
Maybe we should polish those fancy new jets we're getting!
Face it guys, they won't give us a pay-rise until it's way too late.
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No, there will be an offer of pay for productivity which will be to the companies advantage, you'll vote it down. The company and GC won't like the outcome so it will be put up for vote again, and guess what? Motion carried!
Outcome........ more worK for less pay.
But it is legal.
Outcome........ more worK for less pay.
But it is legal.
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I've been in touch with Oasis and will give it serious consideration when they take DECs again, currently FOs only and HKG base. There are currently several other guys looking at it, particulary FOs looking for a quick command.
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Confused!
How does the Cathay pay scale compare with Oasis? Or vice versa! Doesn't CX offer medical benefits? Accomodation allowance? If Cathay is the beez neez.. why would they opt for oasis or fedex? Forgive my igorance... just wondering!
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I heard of a few guys who went over to HONGKONGOasis after they were sh!it-canned from Cathay Pacific. You guys are saying that there are people who just packed up and left on your own accord?
HolySmokies! Is it that bad here?
A "Career airline" would normally not have to deal with masses of people jumpsing ship. What's next? Guys leaving for CRAirways?
HolySmokies! Is it that bad here?
A "Career airline" would normally not have to deal with masses of people jumpsing ship. What's next? Guys leaving for CRAirways?
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Dear Officers,
Due to the continuing heavy tasks in May 2007, we are advised by Crew Planning to reduce the number of leave bookings. Therefore, we are inviting volunteers to cancel their leave in this month.
If insufficient number of volunteers come forward, we will have to cancel leave in reverse order of points. We are sorry that Crew Planning cannot guarantee which alternatives can be offered at this stage, we strongly recommend you to go through the pool process to bid for some other time which is available.
Thank you for you assistance in advance.
Best regards
not short of crew now are we ??? and another 7 about to resign to go to Oasis, plus more US guys leaving shortly...........................
Due to the continuing heavy tasks in May 2007, we are advised by Crew Planning to reduce the number of leave bookings. Therefore, we are inviting volunteers to cancel their leave in this month.
If insufficient number of volunteers come forward, we will have to cancel leave in reverse order of points. We are sorry that Crew Planning cannot guarantee which alternatives can be offered at this stage, we strongly recommend you to go through the pool process to bid for some other time which is available.
Thank you for you assistance in advance.
Best regards
not short of crew now are we ??? and another 7 about to resign to go to Oasis, plus more US guys leaving shortly...........................
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Out of interest..... did B744 guys get that groupwise? Nothing on the airbus side... although my leave is not in May.
Just wondering on what fleet they are hurting the most.... crewing wise?
Out of interest..... did B744 guys get that groupwise? Nothing on the airbus side... although my leave is not in May.
Just wondering on what fleet they are hurting the most.... crewing wise?
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"A "Career airline" would normally not have to deal with masses of people jumpsing ship. What's next? Guys leaving for CRAirways?"
It's Hong Kong Airlines, and give it about 12 months and I bet you will see it happen,
It's Hong Kong Airlines, and give it about 12 months and I bet you will see it happen,
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The reason people are leaving is quite simple. The pro's that were part of the everyday of working for Cathay are no longer there. Slash medical, increased housing prices, increased pollution, insumountable BS to get your command. Why not go to Oasis? A lot less stress for not much less loot. Swire will never learn that they can treat people like human beings and still run a company. All they have is a group of scared 'Yes' men so up to their eye balls in personal debt that they daren't say boo to the employer that has become their bank manager. As they chop and slash all the conditions the reason for being there and putting up with all their anal crap becomes void. You can't have it both ways Swire. If you're going to treat us like ****e then at least have the decency to provide us with adequate salaries to compensate for the fact we have to put up with a 3 hour debrief for reading one line of a checklist incorrectly at 4AM in the sim having just got back from another wonderful sandpit pattern the morning before while our families live in a polluted rat hole. Oh, and I am sorry that I said "Set and Checked" instead of "Checked and Set" on my last PC.... Get a life losers........
Oasis sounds good to me.... I'm there dudes.......Cathay
You can have it.........................................
Oasis sounds good to me.... I'm there dudes.......Cathay
You can have it.........................................
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abortt , simply go down to slashers arms and conduct yourself with a bit of dignity and those considerate gentlemen will have a chat with you in a very civil fashion. Given the appropriate experience and I am sure they will snap you up promptly. Good Luck.
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With respect you can wring your hands until the cows come home. This company only understands aircraft parked up with Swire directors baying for their blood. Only then will things change - but don't hold your breath. Certain enlightened middle managers CAN see the problem areas but they are not able to get the message through to the higher stratas. The higher stratas are basically in denial.
Those officers electing to vote with their feet are taking the matter into their own hands. They have rediscovered their gonads.
Those officers electing to vote with their feet are taking the matter into their own hands. They have rediscovered their gonads.
