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Renewal - ATO

Old 10th Oct 2016, 22:10
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Renewal - ATO

For any renewal, we have to go via an ATO who will decide the amount of training required.

Such training should be performed on the aircraft available within the ATO.

However does the proficiency check has to be done within the aircraft linked to the ATO, or can it be done on an aircraft not linked to the ATO or even an aircraft linked to a different ATO (but were the examiner is working).

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Old 11th Oct 2016, 07:07
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Such training should be performed on the aircraft available within the ATO.
Oh dear, another piece of legislation that's passed me by. Can you kindly provide a reference for that?

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Old 11th Oct 2016, 22:28
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The flying can be done on any aircraft. It requires the Head of Training to approve it.

We do it all the time on customers own aircraft.
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 09:23
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Originally Posted by bose-x View Post
The flying can be done on any aircraft. It requires the Head of Training to approve it.

We do it all the time on customers own aircraft.
Thanks Bose. That's what I thought, however it seems our CAA (not uk) seems to be inventing new way of interpreting the rules.

Something else, regarding renewal, how do you assess the training required for a renewal. Do you make a flight/sim session to assess or do you start the training and assess during it how much training will be needed.
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 11:48
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I look at logbooks and check experience and how longs rating has expire by and then decide if they need a flight with me to assess or whether they can go straight into a test etc.

We do many, many renewals every year. You get pretty used to working out what's needed.
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 11:07
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Ah Bose-X,you seem to be the man........... any knowledge on how to renew a '15 year expired ' instructor rating please? current PPL, 14000 hrs ATPL, C152's to B777's.
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 12:04
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Is it still on the back of your licence?
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 13:35
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yes, its in the section "ratings previously held by holder"
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 13:43
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also in section X11. reads:-
X11 Ratings certificates and priveleges
class type IR Remarks and restrictions.
IR restricted uk imc rating
night nil
SEP land nil
No further Entries
Instructors Remarks and restrictions
No Entries
Examiners
No entries
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 14:29
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It will be a seminar and training as required to pass the test.

I have a course running in Jerez until the 29th that I could slot you on.
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 14:47
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tempting, but my theory is rusty, i was thinking of digesting pooleys manuals over the winter and renewing in the spring. is all the training and testing done in Jerez?, would the same crieria apply to my lapsed examiner rating as well?
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 14:57
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We cover the theory as part of the training. All training as testing done in Jerez.

Examiner is a totally different kettle of fish. You would need to reapply to become and examiner and if accepted do the standards training again and give the AOC.
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 15:14
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many thanks for the information, i'll be in touch.
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