Menzies Looses Ground Handling At Manchester And Eastmindlands For Thomas Cook
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Anybody know the conditions of the TUPE?? Are the mezies guys going to servisair staying on their menzies contracts or will they be given a servisair contract?? Will their shift patterns remain the same?? will they be used soley to work on the tommy cook contract?? Will their skills be recognised?? Whats the hourly rate at servisair these days??
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TUPE
i dont see how you can enforce tupe when tcx are not an handling agent?menzies lost the the contract and another agent has won it..would you tupe workers if jet 2 or easyjet moved somewhere else..if menzies lads went to servisair they would be working on everything not just tcx
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THEGRAFTER;
TUPE works to protect staff when a company they work for looses a major contract or customer. Particularly in the situations handling agents face.
In this case, if the TCX was over 60% of the Menzies workload, they would find they dont need to keep the staff. The new supplier (Servisair in this case) would need extra manpower. Staff may loose out on terms and conditions and continuity of service had they had to leave and re-apply for new jobs, (through no fault of their own). TUPE agreements are built to protect these staff for a minimum period before any changes can be made to their working contracts.
And YES, you would have TUPE if EZY or Jet2 moved. Small operators who have say one flight a day would not involve a TUPE agreement.
The exact terms of TUPE will have to be determined by the two companies. (Servisair and Menzies). There shouldnt be any major changes just a different uniform and perhaps in some cases a roster pattern change to accomodate staff into existing operations. Of course what happens further down the line is down to speculation!
When Meznies took over the STAR contracts at LHR, so far no changes. However if someone is due for promotion, they will inevitably end up on Menzies terms and conditions which would be lower (even if more ££).
TUPE works to protect staff when a company they work for looses a major contract or customer. Particularly in the situations handling agents face.
In this case, if the TCX was over 60% of the Menzies workload, they would find they dont need to keep the staff. The new supplier (Servisair in this case) would need extra manpower. Staff may loose out on terms and conditions and continuity of service had they had to leave and re-apply for new jobs, (through no fault of their own). TUPE agreements are built to protect these staff for a minimum period before any changes can be made to their working contracts.
And YES, you would have TUPE if EZY or Jet2 moved. Small operators who have say one flight a day would not involve a TUPE agreement.
The exact terms of TUPE will have to be determined by the two companies. (Servisair and Menzies). There shouldnt be any major changes just a different uniform and perhaps in some cases a roster pattern change to accomodate staff into existing operations. Of course what happens further down the line is down to speculation!
When Meznies took over the STAR contracts at LHR, so far no changes. However if someone is due for promotion, they will inevitably end up on Menzies terms and conditions which would be lower (even if more ££).
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Jet2 contract,
Just to end the rumours, gate aviation will be the new handling agent from 01 march 2009.
I know Flight Support and Aviance are still in for the contract and, as yet, have not heard either way.
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menzies did not lose the contract menzies are the worlds 3rd biggest ground handlers in the world and the worlds most profitable menzies asked thomas cook to pay up and they refused to pay the money menzies is asking for so menzies gave 90 day notice and that was it. menzies made a balls up with contracts at start-up they gave every new start a permanant contract instead of a 6 month probation so they will need to tupe alot of the staff or be way over staffed.
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All new starters were not given a permanent contracts at all, there were a lot on temp contracts, who finished at the end of october plus a load of agency staff were used to deal with the tcx contract. I believe around 40 guys have been tupe'd over to servisair and as far as i can gather everyone of them is looking forward to getting away from menzies and starting with servisair. Also i've been made aware that menzies have made a right clanger and tupe'd to many guys, leaving them short for there own operations at MAN, They may be better at other stations around the world but i'm afraid to say at MAN they come across as an un-professional company.
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i know for a fact there were 70 new starts last summer given permanant contracts by mistake as i was there when the girls were trying to rectify it and sent the new 6 month contracts down. also they were a good company in man before thomas cook and i expect it to return to the way it was before but when i was in man last summer. there was lots of glitches at start-up e.g. told the polish workers to hand temp id's at the end when they run out...at the end of the first classroom training a handful handed them in and id centre happily took them lol. it was too big an operation and menzies weren't prepared enough to handle it so its prob a favour that tcx never paid up.gd luck to all ground handling comoanys for the summer.and people stop slating ground handling companys cause a majority of people who slate menzies end up working for them.
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I see that the wonderful servisair have crashed an air-bridge into a TCX A330 causing extensive damage and rendering the aircraft out of service for what has been reported to be a considerable length of time. Menzies never did that!!!!!!
I see that the wonderful servisair have crashed an air-bridge into a TCX A330 causing extensive damage and rendering the aircraft out of service for what has been reported to be a considerable length of time. Menzies never did that!!!!!!
