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Old 19th Jun 2006, 23:13
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Exclamation Chemtrails, what do you know?

No not contrails but Chemtrails. I have noticed as have many others in the last few years, that aircraft have been leaving trails behind that just don't dissipate like contrails. When Chemtrails do eventually disperse they cover the whole of the sky in a white gray hazyness. There is much more on this subject on google.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...e+Search&meta=

The article below is meant to of been sent by an aircraft engineer.

http://www.rbnlive.com/mechanic.html#email


More discussion on Chemtrails can be found on The Forum which is linked below. If any of you aircraft engineers or other aircrew would care to join in and attempt to conclusively dismiss what many people perceive to be happening in the skies then please join in on the link below if you feel that your contributons may be monitored by your employers on this forum.

http://www.davidickeforum.com/forum/...ic.php?t=28756

Remember please don't shoot the messenger...
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Old 20th Jun 2006, 00:34
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http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1053744/L/

If you look really, REALLY carefully, you can just about spot the "CHMTRL" button.

If you're ever thinking about becoming a pilot, don't bother. Can't see you getting a Class 1,or, come to think of it, any kind of medical. Go to www.abovetopsecret.com and don't bother us with your c**p anymore.
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Old 20th Jun 2006, 01:30
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Originally Posted by G.Q.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1053744/L/

If you look really, REALLY carefully, you can just about spot the "CHMTRL" button.

If you're ever thinking about becoming a pilot, don't bother. Can't see you getting a Class 1,or, come to think of it, any kind of medical. Go to www.abovetopsecret.com and don't bother us with your c**p anymore.
No, I wouldn't go to abovetopsecret as it is a known disinfo site. I suspect that you already know that though, don't you. I don't wish to be a pilot as I can think of more fulfilling things to do. I still would like to know more on the subject of chemtrails though. Why is it that when ever someone questions the scientific dictatorships version of the world. It is not the topic in question which is debated instead it is the messengers sanity or intelligence which is called into question?

Below is a quote by Aldous Huxley that you may wish to ponder when thinking about chemtrails and I suspect other attacks made on our DNA.

'And it seems to me perfectly in the cards that there will be in the next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people in fact will have their liberties taken away from them but will rather enjoy it as they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda, brainwashing, or brainwashing enhance by pharmacological methods'

When they come knocking at your door in the middle of the night, don't say that people didn't try to warn you about the struggle against tyranny taking place right under your nose.
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Old 20th Jun 2006, 03:28
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It is not the topic in question which is debated instead it is the messengers sanity or intelligence which is called into question?
Something to do with UFOs, little green men and crop circles perhaps?

Generally the simple explanation is the easiest. If chemtrails really existed someone somewhere in the aviation world would know have to know about it. Given the grumbly, gossiping nature of we aviation folks, it would leak out.

Chemtrails don't exist. Period.
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Old 20th Jun 2006, 10:22
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Originally Posted by Blacksheep
Something to do with UFOs, little green men and crop circles perhaps?

Generally the simple explanation is the easiest. If chemtrails really existed someone somewhere in the aviation world would know have to know about it. Given the grumbly, gossiping nature of we aviation folks, it would leak out.

Chemtrails don't exist. Period.
Thats hardly a response to my initial posts question though. UFO's do exist. If you break the acronym down, UFO means Unidentified Flying Object. There have been plenty of reports of UFO's over the years. As well as this press conference given at the American press club which contained many many high ranking former governmental and military personal giving first hand accounts of their own personal experiance of the coverup that exists and of their own encounters with UFO's.
http://www.disclosureproject.org/

You can view a video of the disclosure projects conference here
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...closureproject

More disclosure videos are to be found here
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=disclosureproject

Little green men, I've never had the pleasure of little green men. Who's to say that they don't exist. They might not be a permanent physical reality in our dimension, that dosen't mean that they don't exist in any one of the other 11 dimensions, that it is now widely believed exist.

Crop circles was some old guy with a plank of wood and some rope that made the early ones. Then other people started to make them also to carry forward an agenda of encapsulating and discrediting any other dissenters of the false left right political paradigm which we inhabit. I believe crop circles to be a classic case of disinfo or counterintelpro but I could be wrong and I am willing to view evidence to the contry of my beliefs without resorting to personal attacks.

Personal attacks are a classic sign of the conditioning that exists in the world. People are indoctrinated from a youg age to attack, belittle or humour anything that differs from the imposed reality that has been constructed for them. People are given their views and opinions by the media and educational institutions and do all that they can to support these beliefs. If any part of the illusion that is their reality is called into question. It is so unnerving to them that they do all that they can to defend the very thing that has given them their opinions on the world. As otherwise they are not sure what, if anything that they have been raised to believe to be the truth and real, is in actual fact really lies told to them to make them enjoy without question their servitude.

None are more enslaved than those who think that they're free
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oh for gods sake somebody make the suffering stop.

Alternatively, you could hit the SEARCH button above and do a search on chemtrail, thus learning the perceived viewpoint of the folks around here.

Unwilingness to rehash the same old bollocks is not a personal attack, its just boredom.

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Originally Posted by Capt Pit Bull
oh for gods sake somebody make the suffering stop.

Alternatively, you could hit the SEARCH button above and do a search on chemtrail, thus learning the perceived viewpoint of the folks around here.

Unwilingness to rehash the same old bollocks is not a personal attack, its just boredom.

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I suggest that you read back the reply made by GQ to my first post and if you still can't see any personal attacks then you may wish to look up evaluation so that you are armed with a suitable response in future to a view or opinion that you disagree with. If you are suffering with boredom as you mention then just don't reply to posts that don't interest you. That's a simple enough way of not getting involved in things that you are not interested in joining in.

After all the title of the post is clear for all to see. So you don't even have to open the topic up if you find the subject matter of no interest to you. Does that make sense? Quite simple really I would of thought to not open and then post a reply to a subject that just don't interest you. If you want to make the 'suffering' as you put it stop. The power to do that lies in your hands. You may not believe that you have any power, and I would not blame you for this. Considering the way that we are promoted as powerless beings by the elites of the World. But you do have the ability to not respond it is called discernment. But, however I shall give you the benefit of the doubt until I see evidence to the contry of this opinion.

Chemtrails don't exist period is a well balanced and supported statement on this forum?
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Chemtrails DO exist.

However, not for the reason that most loonies think.

Contrails contain greenhouse gasses (so they are chemtrails) and damage the environment, so that's an issue.

Anyone with a theory beyond this probably has different issue with chemicals
 
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"But, however I shall give you the benefit of the doubt until I see evidence to the contry of this opinion."

It is CONTRARY surely, no?

Or is it CONTRAIRY?

bUGGER ME HE^S GOT ME AT IT NOW.
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Old 20th Jun 2006, 12:29
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Stop being a pedant. So my spelling is not perfect. Why not focus on Chemtrails instead of my spelling mistakes. Is there a reason for your inability to focus on the subject of Chemtrails? Do you not understand the question that I first asked or do you simply wish to try and extract a disscussion from me on a side issue that is of no relevence to the topic I have asked about.

If that is the case then this is the classic technique used by those who wish to take attention away from a subject that they either have no knowledge of, or they do not want talked about in general for some reason. If it is either of these possibilities then please do yourself a favour use some discernment and find another avenue to be a pedant in as I don't wish to be caught up in some strawman debates about UFO's; little green men; and crop circles ad infinitum.
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i've worked on some really big planes, some smaller planes, and flown some small ones.
i've NEVER cleaned a chemtrail tank out, nor filled one up. actually, i've never seen one.
come to think of it though, what about those guys in the low, smelly trucks that scurry about the apron - you know, the ones with blue stains on their protective gear? THEY put stuff into the planes that no-one is allowed to see. i bet it's THEM. they work for the gummint i bet. i'll ask the next one that i see, and report back.
edit: just read the 'e-mail' from the 'engineer' what a load of bollox. hands up all those who have ever crawled inside a waste 'bay'? for someone who seems to have reasonable unsupervised access to and authority to fix a large pax jet, he sure seems to have only a very basic idea of terminology. i KNEW it was the waste guys!

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shattered paradigm, the reason people on here are being so pedant, is that the notion of chemtrails is rubbish, and basically, we're all having a laugh at your expense.

unlike you (it would appear), we all are involved in aviation in some way, and has already been said, it would not be possible for secrets such as you are suggesting, to be kept so.

i bet you don't see any aircraft engineers or commercial pilots at your weekly conspiracy meetings.

or maybe they are there, but they are dressed up as *normal* people.....you'll never know.
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Originally Posted by nzmarty
shattered paradigm, the reason people on here are being so pedant, is that the notion of chemtrails is rubbish, and basically, we're all having a laugh at your expense.

unlike you (it would appear), we all are involved in aviation in some way, and has already been said, it would not be possible for secrets such as you are suggesting, to be kept so.

i bet you don't see any aircraft engineers or commercial pilots at your weekly conspiracy meetings.

or maybe they are there, but they are dressed up as *normal* people.....you'll never know.
normal is the condition of being believing in, and conformist to, the elites indoctrination system of control. The free thinkers of the world are not tied to the safety of the elites enforced reality. Breakthroughs in all spheres are more likely to be found in the pursuit of the unknown than the safety of the known world as presented by them.After all I do put forward that if the Wright brothers listened to the dissenters from their world, then the reality of powered flight would not of existed for them...
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normal is the condition of being believing in, and conformist to, the elites indoctrination system of control. The free thinkers of the world are not tied to the safety of the elites enforced reality. Breakthroughs in all spheres are more likely to be found in the pursuit of the unknown than the safety of the known world as presented by them.After all I do put forward that if the Wright brothers listened to the dissenters from their world, then the reality of powered flight would not of existed for them...

Other chemical issues, for sure

So let me appeal to your suurealistic side.

How do we know that the reality of flight is a reality?

It may just be a horrible narco induced mass hypnotic illusion.

Which means that the Chemtrailers don't actually fly....

... it must be in the water supply, I knew that they were adding more than flouride.
 
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just how does that mantra'd response add weight to your notion? you asked for qualified opinion, and you got it.
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oh come on, you're not seriously believing that chemtrail crap, aren't you?!?

why not start using your god given intelligence (if available...) and roughly calculate how much mass of the chemicals you would need to produce any significant chemical trail that is visible from the ground, over a peroid of a few hours. Then go and look up the mass figures of the popular commercial aircrafts and you might even be able to answer the question by yourself...

Why do people believe everything they read on the internet, i really don't get it...
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It is such fun winding up stupid conspiracy theorists!

But if they only knew......
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I was reminded of a very good point by someone. That the planes doing the majority, if not all of the spraying, are not from commercial airlines. So you probably just wouldn't know about what they are getting upto in their black painted unmarked aircraft.
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Talking

So whan "they" were watching the mech on the internet, they may have found you researching too and you led them to all of us, so we're all doomed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe.
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Originally Posted by shattered paradigm
I was reminded of a very good point by someone. That the planes doing the majority, if not all of the spraying, are not from commercial airlines. So you probably just wouldn't know about what they are getting upto in their black painted unmarked aircraft.
that's not what you were suggesting further up the page. and 'reminded by someone'????? are you sure that's not just the tiny voices in your own head?
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