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They come here, rort the system & when their kids get involved in street gangs through plain old parental neglect,who's fault is it? Why ours of course. Some representative had the gall to blame our culture & influence on their kid's lawlessness. They eagerly accept the economic benefits of Western Culture & in the same breath they denigrate us & our system. How can they assimilate with us when they criticise the system that supports them. Echo's of Mc Carthyism !
An old Scotsman once said to a critic of his beloved new country the USofA. "Aye laddie, if ye dinnae like the place, the same road that brought ye here will take ye back again.
An old Scotsman once said to a critic of his beloved new country the USofA. "Aye laddie, if ye dinnae like the place, the same road that brought ye here will take ye back again.
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You want ugly, Anito? Try walking down the main drag in Lakemba or Sunshine late at night as an Anglo Australian, particularly a female Anglo Australian, and see how far you get before things turn 'ugly'.
We've been taken for mugs by too many of these people who have absolutely no intention of becoming part of Australia as it is today. They will want to convert it into the very mess they're running from, but meantime, they'll be very happy to rort the current system for all we'll foolishly give them.
The do-gooders who help these queue jumpers with their asylum cases are a perfect example of the old saying: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
Rather than padlock this thread, someone should send a copy of it (with a few of the more crazy suggestions re submarines and F18s deleted) to John Howard.
We've been taken for mugs by too many of these people who have absolutely no intention of becoming part of Australia as it is today. They will want to convert it into the very mess they're running from, but meantime, they'll be very happy to rort the current system for all we'll foolishly give them.
The do-gooders who help these queue jumpers with their asylum cases are a perfect example of the old saying: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
Rather than padlock this thread, someone should send a copy of it (with a few of the more crazy suggestions re submarines and F18s deleted) to John Howard.
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I agree with anita04a...this is starting to get a bit beyond the pale.
ILYA975...I don't think the previous poster meant anything by calling it "Christian Australia". As you are well aware, we have a multi cultural society in Australia. This is the way the vast majority of Australians want it to stay.
Unfortunately the same thing cannot be said of the country most of these illegals (and I do think that is the correct term) hail from.
So I think that your two posts are particularly unfair to the country you call home...we have laws AGAINST that kind of thing.
As Anita said, this could turn ugly very quickly.
I currently live in a middle eastern country and I find the vast majority of the locals (Muslims) very pleasant, caring and they could show caring Christians a few things about hospitality.
Having siad that, there does not a week go by when a very small report in the paper tells of another 100 or so illegal immigrants that have been deported. No muss no fuss, they have rules like Australia. They only choose to enforce them. No one calls them heartless or racist for it, it just a fact of life.
time for the padlock.
ILYA975...I don't think the previous poster meant anything by calling it "Christian Australia". As you are well aware, we have a multi cultural society in Australia. This is the way the vast majority of Australians want it to stay.
Unfortunately the same thing cannot be said of the country most of these illegals (and I do think that is the correct term) hail from.
So I think that your two posts are particularly unfair to the country you call home...we have laws AGAINST that kind of thing.
As Anita said, this could turn ugly very quickly.
I currently live in a middle eastern country and I find the vast majority of the locals (Muslims) very pleasant, caring and they could show caring Christians a few things about hospitality.
Having siad that, there does not a week go by when a very small report in the paper tells of another 100 or so illegal immigrants that have been deported. No muss no fuss, they have rules like Australia. They only choose to enforce them. No one calls them heartless or racist for it, it just a fact of life.
time for the padlock.
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Divingduck, I'm just making my point here, albeit, in a rather bold way. I have lived here for 30 years and do love living in Australia. I have grown up with many anglo aussies who see me no different from anyone else. But I do get sick and tired, from time to time, of being sterotyped as an Islamic extremist, only becoz I am a muslim.
And for those of you have sent me those kind e-mails, no, I was not a refugee, no, I was not a queue jumper, yes, I do pay my taxes and yes, I have made significant contributions to the Australian society, especially in the training and education of wannabe pilots.
And for those of you have sent me those kind e-mails, no, I was not a refugee, no, I was not a queue jumper, yes, I do pay my taxes and yes, I have made significant contributions to the Australian society, especially in the training and education of wannabe pilots.
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The Viking:- Why would you want to know about flying schools in BNE/Gold Coast? I thought LAME was welcoming you to the best part of Australia, i.e. Melbourne!
Welcome, anyway,
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Welcome, anyway,
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Appears to be settled now?
The people are going to New Zealand and Nauru.
John Howard has said that none of them will set foot on Australian soil, they are to be assesed in Nauru and NZ.
Also before this thread is closed, could someone PLEASE answer The Viking's query??
The people are going to New Zealand and Nauru.
John Howard has said that none of them will set foot on Australian soil, they are to be assesed in Nauru and NZ.
Also before this thread is closed, could someone PLEASE answer The Viking's query??
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I'm sure that although the processing is to be done of Oz genuine refugees (if there are any) will be properly considered for a chance here. Sounds like a fair and 'Australian' outcome to me.
Disappointed to see the Lawyers continuing to try to ensure that their application business here in Oz is fully fed with clients, attempting to ensure the 460 in their range of operation.
I don't doubt that the parasitic antics of lawyers are the real reason our detention centres are full; thus the reason we have problems accommodating any more people truly in need
I wonder if a monied queue jumper is a better prospect for a lawyer than an impoverished and persecuted person. Hmm.
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Disappointed to see the Lawyers continuing to try to ensure that their application business here in Oz is fully fed with clients, attempting to ensure the 460 in their range of operation.
I don't doubt that the parasitic antics of lawyers are the real reason our detention centres are full; thus the reason we have problems accommodating any more people truly in need
I wonder if a monied queue jumper is a better prospect for a lawyer than an impoverished and persecuted person. Hmm.
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NZ calls for fresh look at Afghan refugee problem
By Graeme Peters
WELLINGTON, Sept 1 (Reuters) - New Zealand on Saturday called for a fresh international approach to the Afghan refugee crisis after accepting up to 150 asylum seekers stranded on a Norwegian freighter off Australia's Christmas Island.
Prime Minister Helen Clark said that to help stop more mass migrations she would make a plea to the United Nations for more financial support for the estimated 3.6 million refugees living immediately outside Afghanistan's borders.
After an international tug-of-war, New Zealand has agreed to accept 45 women, 22 children and their immediate male relatives who for six days have been stranded on a freighter off the Christmas Island.
"Someone had to break the impasse. We've broken the impasse," Clark said.
The tiny island republic of Nauru said it had agreed in principle to provide temporary accommodation for the processing of the remaining 300 currently on board the Norwegian vessel Tampa.
After processing, the asylum seekers will be resettled from Nauru to countries which may include Australia, Norway and Canada.
How they will travel to New Zealand and Nauru is still being worked out, with Clark favouring flights from Singapore followed by an Australian naval ship.
But while the immediate problem had been solved a bigger one remained, she said.
"The best place for this to be contained is on the borders of Afghanistan.
"Pakistan and Iran have had a guts full. They've got 3.6 million (Afghani refugees) between the two of them and they are not getting sufficient support," Clark told Reuters in a telephone interview.
She said that the United Nations had asked for $200 million in humanitarian aid for Afghanistan in 2000, but raised less than half that amount.
Because of lack of support the refugee problem was spilling into Western Europe and Australasia, she said.
"I am calling today for a fresh international approach to the Afghan refugee problem," she said.
Since the beginning of this year, some 180,000 Afghanis have fled to Pakistan and another 200,000 to Iran because of harassment and persecution, war and drought. About 10,000 people are cut off in a no-man's land between Afghanistan and Tajikistan, according to U.N. figures.
Afghanistan has been torn by civil war for 21 years with the Taliban, who control 95 percent of the country, fighting Gen. Ahmed Masood's United Front, which controls a swath in the north.
Clark described the Taliban as "brutal" and "beyond influence" from the international community.
"What I would say to the Taliban is move aside. They are causing their people extreme misery and degradation and the international community a terrible headache."
She conceded that accepting the 150 asylum seekers within New Zealand's annual quota of 750 United Nations-approved refugees would displace others already in the queue but rejected that New Zealand was now seen as a soft touch.
New Zealand's main opposition National Party said on Saturday that accepting 150 refugees in the same week that New Zealand already had 100 Afghanis arriving in a planned resettlement would send the wrong message.
"These (150) are people who have queue jumped in terms of normal refugee avenues and it's quite unfair that they are going to crowd out people who are genuinely refugees," National leader Jenny Shipley told Reuters.
Nauru president Rene Harris said that the 21-square-km (eight square miles) country had the space and facilities to temporarily house the asylum seekers.
"Nauruans are a caring people and we have identified a location in which temporary accommodation can be erected to shelter the asylum seekers," Harris said in a statement.
Nauru, once rich from the mining of its phosphate reserve but now so broke it cannot always afford petrol, would be reimbursed by Australia for the cost of processing the asylum seekers.
"Nauru is proud to be able to provide a solution to this delicate international issue," Harris said.
By Graeme Peters
WELLINGTON, Sept 1 (Reuters) - New Zealand on Saturday called for a fresh international approach to the Afghan refugee crisis after accepting up to 150 asylum seekers stranded on a Norwegian freighter off Australia's Christmas Island.
Prime Minister Helen Clark said that to help stop more mass migrations she would make a plea to the United Nations for more financial support for the estimated 3.6 million refugees living immediately outside Afghanistan's borders.
After an international tug-of-war, New Zealand has agreed to accept 45 women, 22 children and their immediate male relatives who for six days have been stranded on a freighter off the Christmas Island.
"Someone had to break the impasse. We've broken the impasse," Clark said.
The tiny island republic of Nauru said it had agreed in principle to provide temporary accommodation for the processing of the remaining 300 currently on board the Norwegian vessel Tampa.
After processing, the asylum seekers will be resettled from Nauru to countries which may include Australia, Norway and Canada.
How they will travel to New Zealand and Nauru is still being worked out, with Clark favouring flights from Singapore followed by an Australian naval ship.
But while the immediate problem had been solved a bigger one remained, she said.
"The best place for this to be contained is on the borders of Afghanistan.
"Pakistan and Iran have had a guts full. They've got 3.6 million (Afghani refugees) between the two of them and they are not getting sufficient support," Clark told Reuters in a telephone interview.
She said that the United Nations had asked for $200 million in humanitarian aid for Afghanistan in 2000, but raised less than half that amount.
Because of lack of support the refugee problem was spilling into Western Europe and Australasia, she said.
"I am calling today for a fresh international approach to the Afghan refugee problem," she said.
Since the beginning of this year, some 180,000 Afghanis have fled to Pakistan and another 200,000 to Iran because of harassment and persecution, war and drought. About 10,000 people are cut off in a no-man's land between Afghanistan and Tajikistan, according to U.N. figures.
Afghanistan has been torn by civil war for 21 years with the Taliban, who control 95 percent of the country, fighting Gen. Ahmed Masood's United Front, which controls a swath in the north.
Clark described the Taliban as "brutal" and "beyond influence" from the international community.
"What I would say to the Taliban is move aside. They are causing their people extreme misery and degradation and the international community a terrible headache."
She conceded that accepting the 150 asylum seekers within New Zealand's annual quota of 750 United Nations-approved refugees would displace others already in the queue but rejected that New Zealand was now seen as a soft touch.
New Zealand's main opposition National Party said on Saturday that accepting 150 refugees in the same week that New Zealand already had 100 Afghanis arriving in a planned resettlement would send the wrong message.
"These (150) are people who have queue jumped in terms of normal refugee avenues and it's quite unfair that they are going to crowd out people who are genuinely refugees," National leader Jenny Shipley told Reuters.
Nauru president Rene Harris said that the 21-square-km (eight square miles) country had the space and facilities to temporarily house the asylum seekers.
"Nauruans are a caring people and we have identified a location in which temporary accommodation can be erected to shelter the asylum seekers," Harris said in a statement.
Nauru, once rich from the mining of its phosphate reserve but now so broke it cannot always afford petrol, would be reimbursed by Australia for the cost of processing the asylum seekers.
"Nauru is proud to be able to provide a solution to this delicate international issue," Harris said.
Props are for boats!
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I concurr with you toatlly chips. Those lawyers in Melbourne picked a very LEFT Judge. So as to apease thier situation. Our country is being ruined by untouchable Judges, that have no back bone left, because of the SNIVELIBERTARIANS...
The Gang rape case in Sydney is a shinning example. We must have minamum sentences instead of max.
Getting back to the original subject. I read today in the paper, that it costs around $10,000 aud to get from say Iraq to a sinkable bucket off the Coast of Christmas Is.
Now how many REAL REFUGEES can afford that! Send these cue jumpers home. We need to get smarter than them right now!
REAL REFUGEES ARE THOSE PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO LIVE ON THOSE BORDER CAMPS IN AGAHNISTAN, NOT THESE PEOPLE WE HAVE NOW!!!!
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The Gang rape case in Sydney is a shinning example. We must have minamum sentences instead of max.
Getting back to the original subject. I read today in the paper, that it costs around $10,000 aud to get from say Iraq to a sinkable bucket off the Coast of Christmas Is.
Now how many REAL REFUGEES can afford that! Send these cue jumpers home. We need to get smarter than them right now!
REAL REFUGEES ARE THOSE PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO LIVE ON THOSE BORDER CAMPS IN AGAHNISTAN, NOT THESE PEOPLE WE HAVE NOW!!!!Regards
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“These people are also from the Country that is currently putting on trial 2 Australians, under "possible" death sentence, because they might have preached Christianity. I feel more sorry for those 2 Australians, who are in Afghanistan providing aid to that Country..........”
what the ****, are you ****ing kidding me!!!
what a ****ing bunch of racist twats. Christian! Christian!!!!!!!!!!
you don’t know the ****ing meaning!
if you don’t want them just say so and burn in ****ing hell for all i care. Just don’t start stirring all this **** about whats going on in Afghanistan, because you don’t ****ing know what’s going on you narrow minded imbecile. Just be ****ing grateful you aren’t there and furthermore don’t come down to the level of those ****ing barbarians. Christian country - my ****ing arse!
ps: to the **** who said they should be shot dead, email me i wanna ring your ****ing neck!
what the ****, are you ****ing kidding me!!!
what a ****ing bunch of racist twats. Christian! Christian!!!!!!!!!!you don’t know the ****ing meaning!
if you don’t want them just say so and burn in ****ing hell for all i care. Just don’t start stirring all this **** about whats going on in Afghanistan, because you don’t ****ing know what’s going on you narrow minded imbecile. Just be ****ing grateful you aren’t there and furthermore don’t come down to the level of those ****ing barbarians. Christian country - my ****ing arse!
ps: to the **** who said they should be shot dead, email me i wanna ring your ****ing neck!
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An australian SAR unit requests a norwegian ship to assist a ferry in distress. The captains picks up the people onboard the ferry (it goes belly-up shortly after), heads for nearest port (Indonesia). The resquees force him to sail to Australia. There he is welcomed by the friendly SAS. He tries to keep them off the bridge, if they enter it will mean a full takeover of his ship. No luck. The moment they enter the bridge, norwegian authorities announce the resquees to be an australian problem. In making room for the resquees, the sailors have moved containers, in effect rendering the ship unseaworthy. Captain Rinnan (good on him), is standing up to the various demands and threaths issued by the Australian govt. The same govt is making a lasting impression worldwide, and not a positive one. This situation is unique, and will not set an example for refugees wanting to go to Australia. Refugees and resquees are not the same.
Have you checked if any of the resquees hold a CPL or ATPL? Surely then they would be entitled enter without any hassle?
Have you checked if any of the resquees hold a CPL or ATPL? Surely then they would be entitled enter without any hassle?
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From todays Sunday Telegraph, good one Howard:
Military blockade to intercept smugglers
By IAN McPHEDRAN
02sep01
AUSTRALIA will establish its biggest military shield since World War II to prevent as many as 5000 illegal boat people leaving Indonesia for Australia.
The security net will be so tight that even a rowing boat will be seen if it attempts to evade the security force.
The Australian force will patrol the waters between Australia and Indonesia, sending a blunt message to people-smugglers.
The Indonesian Government has agreed to the deployment of the force and will provide port access to the navy ships and re-fuelling facilities for the aircraft.
Once any vessel is detected, it will be boarded and ordered to return to its port of departure.
Any vessel failing to co-operate after reaching Australian waters will be secured by a boarding party and towed back to international waters.
Meanwhile, Prime Minister John Howard yesterday praised Nauru's role in resolving the boat people crisis.
"There is a reciprocity and a warmth in a relationship of that kind, and Nauru, being part of the Pacific family, shares that,'' he said.
"There's a symbolism in the fact that we have found a Pacific solution to this difficult issue.''
The tiny island nation has become almost bankrupt since its phosphate deposits dried up.
Australia will pay the cost of housing and processing the boat people.
"That will be a fraction of the $50,000 it costs us here,'' a government source said.
Defence had drawn up several options for moving the human cargo, including an aerial transfer from Christmas Island, but the Government ruled that out because it wanted to keep them off Australian soil.
People-smugglers use tiny fishing ports from southern Sumatra to Lombok, and smaller islands in eastern Indonesia, to send their human cargoes on their dangerous journey to Australia.
Each person pays between $10,000 and $15,000 to secure a berth on the often leaky and dangerous Indonesian ferries or fishing vessels.
The navy force to be deployed will consist mainly of Darwin-based, Fremantle-class patrol boats, plus a frigate.
All the vessels will be able to remain on station indefinitely.
The navy has a fleet of 15 patrol boats, 10 of them based in Darwin. It also has six guided-missile frigates based at HMAS Stirling, near Perth.
The patrol boats carry a crew of 22 and can reach 30 knots.
They are armed with 40/60 Bofors guns, 81mm mortars and 50-calibre machine guns.
The frigates carry about 160 crew and are armed with 127mm guns, surface-to-air missiles and torpedoes. Each carries an armed helicopter.
The Orions will be permitted to land and refuel in Indonesia.
The four-engine aircraft can remain aloft for 12 hours, covering 400,000sqkm of ocean.
They can operate day and night, and their sophisticated sensors allow them to detect objects hundreds of kilometres away.
They carry 11 crew, including two pilots, two navigators, flight engineers and electronic data analysts, and are armed with air-to-air missiles and torpedoes.
Meanwhile, the navy landing ship HMAS Manoora, which will take the asylum-seekers from the Tampa to Port Moresby, and two frigates will arrive at Christmas Island tomorrow morning.
The vessels have returned from exercises in the South China Sea.
The Manoora, with 180 crew, is a heavy landing ship and troop carrier and is easily able to take 438 extra passengers.
The Manoora was brought in after Norwegian authorities said they would not allow the Tampa to sail with its human cargo.
The Tampa's owners, Wallenius Wilhelmsen, were emphatic she could not sail with the 438 boat people on board.
Military blockade to intercept smugglers
By IAN McPHEDRAN
02sep01
AUSTRALIA will establish its biggest military shield since World War II to prevent as many as 5000 illegal boat people leaving Indonesia for Australia.
The security net will be so tight that even a rowing boat will be seen if it attempts to evade the security force.
The Australian force will patrol the waters between Australia and Indonesia, sending a blunt message to people-smugglers.
The Indonesian Government has agreed to the deployment of the force and will provide port access to the navy ships and re-fuelling facilities for the aircraft.
Once any vessel is detected, it will be boarded and ordered to return to its port of departure.
Any vessel failing to co-operate after reaching Australian waters will be secured by a boarding party and towed back to international waters.
Meanwhile, Prime Minister John Howard yesterday praised Nauru's role in resolving the boat people crisis.
"There is a reciprocity and a warmth in a relationship of that kind, and Nauru, being part of the Pacific family, shares that,'' he said.
"There's a symbolism in the fact that we have found a Pacific solution to this difficult issue.''
The tiny island nation has become almost bankrupt since its phosphate deposits dried up.
Australia will pay the cost of housing and processing the boat people.
"That will be a fraction of the $50,000 it costs us here,'' a government source said.
Defence had drawn up several options for moving the human cargo, including an aerial transfer from Christmas Island, but the Government ruled that out because it wanted to keep them off Australian soil.
People-smugglers use tiny fishing ports from southern Sumatra to Lombok, and smaller islands in eastern Indonesia, to send their human cargoes on their dangerous journey to Australia.
Each person pays between $10,000 and $15,000 to secure a berth on the often leaky and dangerous Indonesian ferries or fishing vessels.
The navy force to be deployed will consist mainly of Darwin-based, Fremantle-class patrol boats, plus a frigate.
All the vessels will be able to remain on station indefinitely.
The navy has a fleet of 15 patrol boats, 10 of them based in Darwin. It also has six guided-missile frigates based at HMAS Stirling, near Perth.
The patrol boats carry a crew of 22 and can reach 30 knots.
They are armed with 40/60 Bofors guns, 81mm mortars and 50-calibre machine guns.
The frigates carry about 160 crew and are armed with 127mm guns, surface-to-air missiles and torpedoes. Each carries an armed helicopter.
The Orions will be permitted to land and refuel in Indonesia.
The four-engine aircraft can remain aloft for 12 hours, covering 400,000sqkm of ocean.
They can operate day and night, and their sophisticated sensors allow them to detect objects hundreds of kilometres away.
They carry 11 crew, including two pilots, two navigators, flight engineers and electronic data analysts, and are armed with air-to-air missiles and torpedoes.
Meanwhile, the navy landing ship HMAS Manoora, which will take the asylum-seekers from the Tampa to Port Moresby, and two frigates will arrive at Christmas Island tomorrow morning.
The vessels have returned from exercises in the South China Sea.
The Manoora, with 180 crew, is a heavy landing ship and troop carrier and is easily able to take 438 extra passengers.
The Manoora was brought in after Norwegian authorities said they would not allow the Tampa to sail with its human cargo.
The Tampa's owners, Wallenius Wilhelmsen, were emphatic she could not sail with the 438 boat people on board.
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Like just about everyone else in Australia, and probably the world, I have been watching the progress of this debacle over the past week or so (and of course, keeping up with it here on PPRUNE).
Wednesday night I spent 6 hours driving and got sick of listening to my CD’s so turned on the ABC National. Heard some interesting viewpoints, both sides, and thought it may be beneficial to pass them on.
To be a refugee has nothing to do with ones financial status
Most of the boat people arrive here after flying to Malaysia (a Muslim country hello, we are no longer being persecuted and in a Muslim country) and then work their way to Indonesia to book passage on the cruise South
There are some 3500 refugees (now blown out to 5000) waiting in Indonesia for the cruise South
The myth that there is no Que is just that, a myth. There are some X millions of people around the world in camps waiting to find a better life so if that aint a Que, WTF is
Australia is second only to Canada, on a per capita basis, for taking in refugees
The average polling taken by various media and government bodies on the situation, has 89% of Australians saying p!ss off
Pack rapes of non Muslim girls by Muslim men in Sydney has risen appreciably over the last 2 years
and now, some observations of my own
Why don’t the Norwegians take them???…..Why don’t they put the same effort into reorganising their own country as they do into wreaking havoc here in Australia???…..Would the bleeding hearts be prepared to take them into their homes or have them live next door???…..Will JA-TO suffer hell and damnation for his/her/its attempt at bad language
Oh well…..back to the tennis
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Wednesday night I spent 6 hours driving and got sick of listening to my CD’s so turned on the ABC National. Heard some interesting viewpoints, both sides, and thought it may be beneficial to pass them on.
To be a refugee has nothing to do with ones financial status
Most of the boat people arrive here after flying to Malaysia (a Muslim country hello, we are no longer being persecuted and in a Muslim country) and then work their way to Indonesia to book passage on the cruise South
There are some 3500 refugees (now blown out to 5000) waiting in Indonesia for the cruise South
The myth that there is no Que is just that, a myth. There are some X millions of people around the world in camps waiting to find a better life so if that aint a Que, WTF is
Australia is second only to Canada, on a per capita basis, for taking in refugees
The average polling taken by various media and government bodies on the situation, has 89% of Australians saying p!ss off
Pack rapes of non Muslim girls by Muslim men in Sydney has risen appreciably over the last 2 years
and now, some observations of my own
Why don’t the Norwegians take them???…..Why don’t they put the same effort into reorganising their own country as they do into wreaking havoc here in Australia???…..Would the bleeding hearts be prepared to take them into their homes or have them live next door???…..Will JA-TO suffer hell and damnation for his/her/its attempt at bad language
Oh well…..back to the tennis
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Wirraway,
Different sh*t, same wrapping.
What is the price of a human life in Australia these days? A fraction of $50000? How much is that exactly?
Imagine, the guy is praising other countries for doing what his own country should have done. I'm not impressed!
nasa,
Norway has said it will consider any proposals coming from the UN High Commissionary for Refugees. We always do. We will not consider any deals made on the outside of that system. If we take 400, will Australia then pay the $200000 it costs to provide housing here? And pay for the trip?
Different sh*t, same wrapping.
What is the price of a human life in Australia these days? A fraction of $50000? How much is that exactly?
Imagine, the guy is praising other countries for doing what his own country should have done. I'm not impressed!
nasa,
Norway has said it will consider any proposals coming from the UN High Commissionary for Refugees. We always do. We will not consider any deals made on the outside of that system. If we take 400, will Australia then pay the $200000 it costs to provide housing here? And pay for the trip?
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Scando
Whats the problem, with the latest news 2
posts above, Australias problems are over,
I see your from Oslo in Norway, you get your
"Tampa" back in a couple of days, If Norway
wants to accept Pakistanis posing as Afgahns
thats your problem and your welcome to them,
my country has done more than its share and
enough is enough, from here on in Australia
will accept only Genuine refugees who have
I.D. and applied in the apropriate manner.
By the way the "Tampa" capt told a porky
regarding the health of its "passengers".
Wirraway
Whats the problem, with the latest news 2
posts above, Australias problems are over,
I see your from Oslo in Norway, you get your
"Tampa" back in a couple of days, If Norway
wants to accept Pakistanis posing as Afgahns
thats your problem and your welcome to them,
my country has done more than its share and
enough is enough, from here on in Australia
will accept only Genuine refugees who have
I.D. and applied in the apropriate manner.
By the way the "Tampa" capt told a porky
regarding the health of its "passengers".
Wirraway
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Wirraway,
Sorry mate, how can I comment as you obviously have been aboard the vessel and have verified both the nationality and the conditions of the resquees.
I don't think it's over.
Sorry mate, how can I comment as you obviously have been aboard the vessel and have verified both the nationality and the conditions of the resquees.
I don't think it's over.
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Location: Townsville,Nth Queensland
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Scando
Your not up to date mate, your Ambassador
to Australia boarded the ship on Thursday
and confirmed what the Australian doctors
reported that no one was seriously ill or
needed evacuation, I have no idea what your
Oslo papers are reporting, but it appears
that your country people are being mislead,
may I suggest you try reading the Aussie
papers or better yet tune to CNN where what
I have said was reported yesterday.
Wirraway
Your not up to date mate, your Ambassador
to Australia boarded the ship on Thursday
and confirmed what the Australian doctors
reported that no one was seriously ill or
needed evacuation, I have no idea what your
Oslo papers are reporting, but it appears
that your country people are being mislead,
may I suggest you try reading the Aussie
papers or better yet tune to CNN where what
I have said was reported yesterday.
Wirraway