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Old 5th Jun 2024, 05:10
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Download Windows 10 from Microsoft

Advice needed please. A few months back I bought a new desktop computer using an SSD. It came with a non genuine Windows 10. This conflicted with my HDD which had a genuine Windows 10 on it. That Windows 10 is now inaccessible as the password is not acceptable but the files are all OK to access. My plan is clear files from the SSD and load a genuine Windows 10 and using a HDD for file storage. Question is what format is best to download and use the Windows 10 from Microsoft so it can load directly to the SSD? Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old 5th Jun 2024, 06:45
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Your problem will likely be that the your hardware doesn't have "digital entitlement" to run Win10 as it's never had an activated copy installed. Downloading from MS won't fix that problem because you either have to provide a key to activate or let MS verify the digital entitlement online, which your hardware probably lacks. That said, an unactivated installation will work just with a few limitations.

You'll need to create a bootable flash drive, boot from it & install.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10%20
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Old 6th Jun 2024, 02:36
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Thanks for the info. I will act on that. My copy of Win 10 was upgraded for free using my Win 7 serial number. Hopefully that will work through my Microsoft account. Once again thanks for the info.
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If the Win7 installation started life as a retail version & not an OEM one you might have luck using the drive in the new hardware. If it was OEM then it's tied to the hardware it was originally installed in & will quite likely complain. Good luck!
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Thanks for the help. It was quite an experience reloading my Win 10 to a drive that had a pirated Win 10 Pro. A catch was the flash drive version would only load to a GPT drive so I was forced to use CMD and sort that out. Now I have all genuine programs on the confuser again and I am impressed with how much Win 10 has developed in the year I did not use it. A problem now is my 2 TB USB drive is not recognised but is visible in Admin tools. It has 1.4 TB of backup date on it. I will use EASUS Partition Manager to convert this to GPT. Not keen as I have two two other backup USB drives and one standard drive as backup using a dock. All these use MBR. I am not keen to do this change but not seeing a way round it.
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Old 9th Jun 2024, 12:09
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As the 2TB drive is external it shouldn't matter whether it's GPT or MBR.
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Old 9th Jun 2024, 14:27
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On hindsight you are right but I was working a bit blind there. All working good now. One serious problem I have is my backup USB HDD a Western Digital 2 TB is not recognised by Windows. The other two USB drives are recognised using the same cable and same USB port. I carried out an extended test - 10 hours- on the suspect drive using Western Digital's Dashboard app but no fault was found and the drive is still not recognised, but is visible in Admin Tools. Pain.
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Old 10th Jun 2024, 06:05
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When you say it's visible in Admin Tools do you mean it shows the formatting type (NTFS?) as well as the partition sizes & how much of each is free?
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In Admin tools, Storage. Its marked as Disk 2, Basic, 1862.97 GB Online 1862.97 GB unallocated. I know it should have about 1.4 GB of data on it. This drive was used as its the newest and passed the WD full testing 60 days ago. It was recognised in the pirated Win 10 Pro but not in this genuine Win 10 Home edition a few days after install of the OS. It did have a yellow flag in Devices and Printers but after a few restarts this flag has gone and the info says the device is working normal, which is not quite true at present.
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Old 10th Jun 2024, 09:08
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Anything to do with drivers? Also, when you say backup data, how did you write that data to the drive? Could it be some strange format used by the backup software you used?
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I'm presuming that's meant to be 1.4TB of data. The drive has been converted to GPT & that's what has rendered your data inaccessible. You might be able to revert to MBR & recover your data but there's no guarantee.

First step: DO NOT WRITE TO THE DISK!!!

Second step: download a program such as https://www.easeus.com/partition-recovery/ to determine if your partition can be recovered. I don't know if there's free software that can recover it but at least the trial version will show you what's likely.

Use Solution 2 listed here: https://www.easeus.com/data-recovery...onversion.html

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Old 10th Jun 2024, 10:17
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TestDisk is a free tool that can recover this sort of situation but it's not exactly user friendly

https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download

https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
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Once again thanks for the replies. All back up was done manually not using any back up app. Up to using Win 10 as compared with Win 10 pro the USB HDD was readily accessible on Win 10 Pro. All files were backed up in their original format. PDFs as that, DOCX etc all in uncompressed form. The idea was to have a clean install of Win 10, so all files were backed up to this one drive. The other 3 back up drives were being selectively consolidated to this one 2 TB USB Western Digital drive, so no multiple back ups. Part of the info is on Dropbox but not to the extent of the newer files. I was hoping to use a friends computer that has Win 10 Pro on it but he is busy and gallivanting off to Sumbawa tomorrow, 12 June. The use of Easus data recovery is an extreme last resort, from experience the 2 TB of recovered files will need up to 8 TB of storage and file names will be lost. Again from experience that will be many months of work that I do not have. I will read up on EASUS Partition Recovery, its free and I have it on my computer. The criteria is I must not lose these files. At present the backup drive is NTSF and considered to be in top condition,no viruses and passed extended test by Western Digital Tests. The cable is good, the USB port is good. Ports test OK by manual checks opening hidden files on Device Manager. The USB HDD disk shows its size on Admin tools and as Unallocated. When doing the new install this drive was not connected to the computer just the SSD as C and a standard Western Digital 2 TB hard drive. All drives checked for virus all hard drives and USB HDD virus checked, extended test by Western Digital app and defragged. One fault that was indicated from memory in the Devices and Printer page as the drive was set as PnP and quick removal. At this point of time that fault does not show. Le Pingouin, thanks, I will look at those apps.Once again gents, thanks for your help.
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I don't know how you value your time but by now you must have expended so much effort it would have been better just to buy a legal machine in the first place?
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Asturias 56 to answer that. That was the problem. I had a good computer that had a motherboard fail. Bought a new one, that failed several times. It was a doomed computer after 6 fails my money was refunded. This 'new' computer came with pirated software which I was obliged to use with restraints on my time. I did not feel bad about this as I had the genuine Microsoft Windows 10 and MS Office. When I fitted my previous hard drive, there was a conflict of the two Windows OS and my genuine Windows locked out of my password. Yes a large amount of time has gone into the files now inaccessible on the USB HDD drive that is not recognised. Part of it was files recovered by Easus with thousands of irrelevant files and many more with no file names. My Dropbox was not accessible from the pirated software. That would have been a good choice to save to. It has all my recipes saved over the years, aircraft and general technical stuff and genealogy detail for 1500 years. The files are important to me as they are irreplaceable and need to be put in Dropbox.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation - it will (hopefully) help others from finishing up in the same situation.

We back up the old, hard data (like Family tree stuff) every 6 months to USB drives which are kept separately. We also keep any old computer when we replace it and junk the oldest one we have in the pile.You just can't have enough copies when things go wrong.
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So far with the problem of not being able to access the USB HDD, it seems Java can corrupt Western Digital drives and flash drives through its security features. I have removed Java 32 bit and 64 bit but the drive is not yet accessible but this bit of knowledge is worth mentioning. I use Revo Uninstaller to this this. A free app that really digs into every part of the install. Better than Cleansweep.
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