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From: The Land of Beer and Chocolate
Well, latest PCLinuxOs distro installed as a dual-boot, absolutely no issues with the wifi, starting to configure it to suit what I want. Am happy (so far)
The wifi issue must have been a Ubuntu one, so that won't get installed again anywhere.
Now it's time to start learning again since it's been a heck of a long time since I really did any DOS type things.......
Thanks for trying anyway, guys
The wifi issue must have been a Ubuntu one, so that won't get installed again anywhere.
Now it's time to start learning again since it's been a heck of a long time since I really did any DOS type things.......
Thanks for trying anyway, guys
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From: Gt. Yarmouth, Norfolk
I have recently "converted" to Linux having had my computer trashed by a very virrulent virus late last year.
Everything appeared ok until a recent potentially catastrophic problem with a full root partition, which prevented me logging on with little or no warning. Having managed to solve the proble without knowing how I have to say that my experience is now rather jaded.
From an aviation perspective the obvious issue is there being very little available by way of aviation applications written for Linux. About the only one I can think of is Notam Plot. In terms of flight planning software NavBox will just about run under Wine, but nothing else will, especially Skydemon, which has to be the most advanced VFR planning software currently available.
Generally, achieving the same functionality as Windows 7 has been a chore. For example, getting the right version of Java to run Afpex took days. Open Office, whilst good, still has some bugs which cause problems and several times I have reverted to Windows to edit stuff.
So, whilst I like not having to constantly fend off virus attacks I find myself on the point of junking Linux on my dual boot laptop and returning to the Windows 7 fold.
Everything appeared ok until a recent potentially catastrophic problem with a full root partition, which prevented me logging on with little or no warning. Having managed to solve the proble without knowing how I have to say that my experience is now rather jaded.
From an aviation perspective the obvious issue is there being very little available by way of aviation applications written for Linux. About the only one I can think of is Notam Plot. In terms of flight planning software NavBox will just about run under Wine, but nothing else will, especially Skydemon, which has to be the most advanced VFR planning software currently available.
Generally, achieving the same functionality as Windows 7 has been a chore. For example, getting the right version of Java to run Afpex took days. Open Office, whilst good, still has some bugs which cause problems and several times I have reverted to Windows to edit stuff.
So, whilst I like not having to constantly fend off virus attacks I find myself on the point of junking Linux on my dual boot laptop and returning to the Windows 7 fold.
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From: Gt. Yarmouth, Norfolk
The penny has dropped. I should not meddle with things I don't understand and good job my lap top is at home and not in front of me
Any ideas on how to actually solve the problem when you cannot get more than the terminal?
Any ideas on how to actually solve the problem when you cannot get more than the terminal?
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From: YMML
Midnight Commander (mc) is an invaluable command line tool - a clone of Norton Commander, the DOS based file manager. You can use it to display directory sizes, select & delete or move multiple files, edit files, etc.
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From: Gt. Yarmouth, Norfolk
well yes, but I don't know how or why 
The root directory was full meaning that you can only get into the system via the terminal (what you actually get is a mesage saying that Gnome power manager is not installed correctly and you cannot then log into the desk top but can only get to the terminal using Ctrl-Alt-F1). There is no warning of this critical state approaching.
The key seems to be to free up space on the root directory by either moving or deleting files, but this did not seem to work. In the end I recall using a command which automatically gives a % increase in the size of the root directory but I cannot now trace what that was for future reference. So the key questions are: how do you stop this happening in the future and if it does happen what is a quick solution to the problem? (a trawl of the internet offers no clear solution).
The root directory was full meaning that you can only get into the system via the terminal (what you actually get is a mesage saying that Gnome power manager is not installed correctly and you cannot then log into the desk top but can only get to the terminal using Ctrl-Alt-F1). There is no warning of this critical state approaching.
The key seems to be to free up space on the root directory by either moving or deleting files, but this did not seem to work. In the end I recall using a command which automatically gives a % increase in the size of the root directory but I cannot now trace what that was for future reference. So the key questions are: how do you stop this happening in the future and if it does happen what is a quick solution to the problem? (a trawl of the internet offers no clear solution).
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From: Paris, France
So, whilst I like not having to constantly fend off virus attacks I find myself on the point of junking Linux on my dual boot laptop and returning to the Windows 7 fold.
Besides, anything that could faithfully emulate the Windows environment would also be vulnerable to Windows viruses, so if you need to run applications that are available only for Windows, then actually running Windows itself is the obvious solution.
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From: Forest of Dean
Yup,
For me, there isn't a suitable Linux application which does the same as AutoRoute - so I have an XP virtual machine so I can run AutoRoute when I need to - without having to leave my Linux desktop.
For me, there isn't a suitable Linux application which does the same as AutoRoute - so I have an XP virtual machine so I can run AutoRoute when I need to - without having to leave my Linux desktop.
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From: London
Justiciar
You'll be delighted to know that you're not alone. Getting the partition sizes right a priori is something which few people get right every time once the system's been in use for a while, even in a commercial environment. Luckily, there are ways to get out of jail if things go TU, as you found out - du -k|sort -g, then rm that big download from r*dtube
I suggest that you keep gparted.and the system rescue cd in your toolbag. You're able to boot from these and resize if you need to. If you Giggle "linux disk space monitor script startup" you'll find a wealth of scripts to warn you if your space is running out.
Linux isn't for everyone - even not, as I suspect, Mrs SO. But as I have to fix the confounded thing when it breaks, she's crossing over to the dark side this weekend. Then I'll install Linux.
SO
You'll be delighted to know that you're not alone. Getting the partition sizes right a priori is something which few people get right every time once the system's been in use for a while, even in a commercial environment. Luckily, there are ways to get out of jail if things go TU, as you found out - du -k|sort -g, then rm that big download from r*dtube
I suggest that you keep gparted.and the system rescue cd in your toolbag. You're able to boot from these and resize if you need to. If you Giggle "linux disk space monitor script startup" you'll find a wealth of scripts to warn you if your space is running out.
Linux isn't for everyone - even not, as I suspect, Mrs SO. But as I have to fix the confounded thing when it breaks, she's crossing over to the dark side this weekend. Then I'll install Linux.
SO
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From: Berkshire, UK
Ubuntu 11 unstable
Earlier this week, my system decided to install Ubuntu 11 over the previously stable Ubuntu 10. It all seemed to go smoothly at the time but now I find that the system just freezes at random intervals and requires a hard reset to recover it. It has frozen at any time from partway through drawing the initial desktop to several hours of work later. This morning it froze just as it was trying to connect to our wireless network and it messed up the key.
I have not fetched/installed any new utilities and the previously installed stuff still works.
I have prompted it to check for updates every day just in case there was some "correction" issued. Today a few files updated and I have not seen any improvement.
I am not a Unix/Linux/Ubuntu user as such, so any help in a "use words of few sylables, slowly" way would be much appreciated.
Thanks for your interest,
Rans6....
I have not fetched/installed any new utilities and the previously installed stuff still works.
I have prompted it to check for updates every day just in case there was some "correction" issued. Today a few files updated and I have not seen any improvement.
I am not a Unix/Linux/Ubuntu user as such, so any help in a "use words of few sylables, slowly" way would be much appreciated.
Thanks for your interest,
Rans6....
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From: UK
Running 11.10 without any problems....
It doesn't take long to do a clean re-instal.
Unlike windows it recognises all hardware and prompts for additional drivers. It virtually works straight out of the box.
It doesn't take long to do a clean re-instal.
Unlike windows it recognises all hardware and prompts for additional drivers. It virtually works straight out of the box.
More bang for your buck
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From: land of the clanger
Unlike windows it recognises all hardware and prompts for additional drivers.
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Ubuntu 11.10
On this release, we seem to have lost the ability to micromanage the fonts - I find this a pain on my Asus - This could be a factor in your misery - OK I'm being a moaner here, but I did use the font management facilities on my notebook.
CAT III
CAT III
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From: Berkshire, UK
I am on Ub 11.10 32bit. I don't know what the graphics chipset is, it was a fairly cheap graphics card when I built the system nearly 2 years ago. I don't do anything with intensive/high speed graphics and don't need anything expensive here.
I will try to find out which chipset it is tomorrow.
Can I interrogate the system to find this or must I have the hardware in bits?
Sometimes, just before it crashes/locks up, the sound goes off the rails, it may die by doing "the needle stuck....the needle stuck....." or it may just stop abruptly. Either way a hard reset is needed to clear it.
The hardware is very capable (Core I7 and 6 GB of ram at 2.8 GHz) and ran 10.something faultlessly for about a year. Would it not keep the installed drivers which were doing a good job.
Thanks for all,
Rans6Andrew
I will try to find out which chipset it is tomorrow.
Can I interrogate the system to find this or must I have the hardware in bits?
Sometimes, just before it crashes/locks up, the sound goes off the rails, it may die by doing "the needle stuck....the needle stuck....." or it may just stop abruptly. Either way a hard reset is needed to clear it.
The hardware is very capable (Core I7 and 6 GB of ram at 2.8 GHz) and ran 10.something faultlessly for about a year. Would it not keep the installed drivers which were doing a good job.
Thanks for all,
Rans6Andrew
