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On dial up at home (and no burner on my laptop despite a 2mb pipe at work 
) so I've ordered the CD from Microsoft.
Out of interest does anyone know how big the file is on Windows update?
) so I've ordered the CD from Microsoft. Out of interest does anyone know how big the file is on Windows update?
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It seems to have resurrected Messenger as well
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I meant Windows Messanger. The annoying messenger service has remained dead.
Well, apart from having changed the icon showing that it's connected to WLAN, I haven't noticed any changes yet.
Took about 90 minutes to load - lots of fights with Symantec and some 'security center' thing came up when it re-booted. Seems to have vanished now....
Took about 90 minutes to load - lots of fights with Symantec and some 'security center' thing came up when it re-booted. Seems to have vanished now....
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I've tried it out on a couple of test boxes - one is fine, but the explorer process seems to die on the other, leaving me with nothing but my wallpaper and a moveable but unclickable mouse. Even Ctrl, Alt, Del does nothing. Uhoh... 
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I have been doing fresh installs with the WinXP CD which already has SP2 in it and they go very smoothly. All that I see during the install is an extra screen that was not there on the WinXP w/SP1 CD.
The only thing that is annoying is the Security Center, it keeps wanting you to add an Antivirus program. Until you do, and you update the Antivirus program, it keeps popping up the reminder balloons.
Richard
The only thing that is annoying is the Security Center, it keeps wanting you to add an Antivirus program. Until you do, and you update the Antivirus program, it keeps popping up the reminder balloons.
Richard
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I have Norton Systemworks on two computers here with Norton Anti-virus. On one the Windows Security Center recognises the Anti-Virus, on the other it doesn't. It didn't have trouble with the ZoneAlarm firewall on any of the computers though.
Meh, it still beats using Windows98...
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Meh, it still beats using Windows98...
goates
Same here. It recognises Norton AV 2004 on one computer, but not Norton AV 2002 (current, updated and legal) on the other - even though both state "All of the Symantec products installed on your computer are currently up-to-date." No doubt a temporary thing which will be sorted out soon....?? Meanwhile I've turned off the so-called virus protection monitoring on the security centre thing because it clearly isn't working.
But over 90 Mb to fix the faults in the basic Win XP??
Just got through to the advice line - in the UK it isn't 0860 60 10 100 as inidicated on the MS site - it's actually 0870 60 10 100. Eventually they tell you to redial 0845 090 2025 - so that's the no. to ring for SP2 queries. They allege that it's Norton's problem and that they should come up with a fix. Which, of course, is typical MS bolleaux. That's like saying "We've got something which can tell you if your printer needs new ink cartridges" - but which only monitors, say, magenta and cyan and can't tell you about yellow because its database doesn't include yellow. The bloke on the other end said that he'd pass on the observation - but I doubt whether any fix will be forthcoming from Gate$' empire!
But over 90 Mb to fix the faults in the basic Win XP??
Just got through to the advice line - in the UK it isn't 0860 60 10 100 as inidicated on the MS site - it's actually 0870 60 10 100. Eventually they tell you to redial 0845 090 2025 - so that's the no. to ring for SP2 queries. They allege that it's Norton's problem and that they should come up with a fix. Which, of course, is typical MS bolleaux. That's like saying "We've got something which can tell you if your printer needs new ink cartridges" - but which only monitors, say, magenta and cyan and can't tell you about yellow because its database doesn't include yellow. The bloke on the other end said that he'd pass on the observation - but I doubt whether any fix will be forthcoming from Gate$' empire!
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Nail biting couple of hours yesterday ..... it seemed to go quite painlessly.
The kids are still happy because it hasn't affected their on-line gaming but I've noticed a minor niggle with Money 2003. I used to be able to double click on just the day or month or year part of a date entry and have that highlighted for change. I can only get the entire date to highlight now when I double click on it. I then have to positon the cursor and drag across the bit of the date I want to change. A damn nuisance if you've got a batch of entries to do.
All in all, much less anguish than I thought I'd have.
ST
The kids are still happy because it hasn't affected their on-line gaming but I've noticed a minor niggle with Money 2003. I used to be able to double click on just the day or month or year part of a date entry and have that highlighted for change. I can only get the entire date to highlight now when I double click on it. I then have to positon the cursor and drag across the bit of the date I want to change. A damn nuisance if you've got a batch of entries to do.
All in all, much less anguish than I thought I'd have.
ST
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SP2 - good for you. Probably.
NTBugtraq which follows NT/2000/XP etc. security issues recommends that SP2 be supported because it's the first time ever MS has truly supported making a system secure *even* if that means pi$$ing off people who wrote insecure code in their applications.
Previously, it was "don't break the apps, even if they're not secure". This approach is better if it means fewer opportunities for worm/virus creators.
We will be starting a trial at our firm by installing a clean WinXP install with SP2 and installing our application software using test machines. If these work OK we will image this using Symantec Ghost and deploy it to our various models of PC. It is extremely unlikely we will be patching existing systems, but that's coz we can afford not to.
Incidentally we operate the Windows firewall on our internal network, but have customised it slightly. This is in addition to our dedicated firewall, in case a laptop brings something nasty inside the firewall. If you want to use Remote Control programs you have to open the firewall for that port though. In SP2 you just point at the program you need to get out and it figures out the rest.
Previously, it was "don't break the apps, even if they're not secure". This approach is better if it means fewer opportunities for worm/virus creators.
We will be starting a trial at our firm by installing a clean WinXP install with SP2 and installing our application software using test machines. If these work OK we will image this using Symantec Ghost and deploy it to our various models of PC. It is extremely unlikely we will be patching existing systems, but that's coz we can afford not to.
Incidentally we operate the Windows firewall on our internal network, but have customised it slightly. This is in addition to our dedicated firewall, in case a laptop brings something nasty inside the firewall. If you want to use Remote Control programs you have to open the firewall for that port though. In SP2 you just point at the program you need to get out and it figures out the rest.
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I've tried the windows update feature, but it won't let me download it, reported it to MS and the reply was they were extremely busy at the moment please allow 48hrs!
How do you order sp2 cd?
How do you order sp2 cd?
Further to my last query about why the XP SP2 Security Center doesn't recognise Norton AV 2002 even with all its current updates, this is from the Symantec support site:
Q: Why does the Windows Security Center say that the status of my Norton security product is "unknown."
A: Your Norton security products contain tamper protection features that prevent malicious code from determining their status. This tamper protection also prevents the Windows Security Center from determining the status of your Norton security products. Shortly after Microsoft releases Service Pack 2, Symantec will make a correction available through LiveUpdate. This correction will allow the Windows Security Center to correctly identify the status of your Norton security products.
So hopefully it won't be long before there's a patch to correct the mis-reporting of Norton AV 2002 status!
Q: Why does the Windows Security Center say that the status of my Norton security product is "unknown."
A: Your Norton security products contain tamper protection features that prevent malicious code from determining their status. This tamper protection also prevents the Windows Security Center from determining the status of your Norton security products. Shortly after Microsoft releases Service Pack 2, Symantec will make a correction available through LiveUpdate. This correction will allow the Windows Security Center to correctly identify the status of your Norton security products.
So hopefully it won't be long before there's a patch to correct the mis-reporting of Norton AV 2002 status!
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Thanks Mike J ordered one.
I must be having a good day fixed 2 problems now (see ATI Radeon AGP thread )
and now the sp2 download problem, if you are unable to get the autoupdate or download working and get the followin error code 0x80244001 then do the following:
When searching for available updates on the Windows Update site, you see the 0x80244001 error
Problem description
This error may occur if the MSXML3.dll is missing or not properly registered.
Applicable operating systems
Windows XP
Windows Server 2003
Resolutions
1. Register MSXML3.dll
Click Start.
Choose Run.
In the Run box, type regsvr32 MSXML3.dll.
Click OK.
I must be having a good day fixed 2 problems now (see ATI Radeon AGP thread )
and now the sp2 download problem, if you are unable to get the autoupdate or download working and get the followin error code 0x80244001 then do the following:
When searching for available updates on the Windows Update site, you see the 0x80244001 error
Problem description
This error may occur if the MSXML3.dll is missing or not properly registered.
Applicable operating systems
Windows XP
Windows Server 2003
Resolutions
1. Register MSXML3.dll
Click Start.
Choose Run.
In the Run box, type regsvr32 MSXML3.dll.
Click OK.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Since loading SP2 I have a problem with Amazon (US and UK) in that all the command icons are missing their images and just show the place holders with red crosses. Everything else seems fine, and it also doesn't seem to happen on any other site (so far). I can't spot anything in IE tools to fix it and the SP2 firewall is off.
Ideas anyone????
Ideas anyone????
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Installed SP2 today without any tears (so far!) having received the CD from Microsoft within a week of ordering. When the inevitable re-installation of XP comes along will I have to load both SP 1 and SP 2? I understand that it is the usual practice to include all prior updates in a Service Pack but I have the feeling that SP 2 only includes updates issued since SP 1. In other words, does the 'cumulative rule' not apply in this instance?
'nough said
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The CD contains the full version of SP2 as well as SP1 - otherwise how would they know which parts of SP1 you installed and which you didn't? So in the unlikely event of OS crashing an SP2 reload will suffice (unless of course it caused the problem in the first place 
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