ATI Radeon 9700 AGP or not?
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I have win xp sp1, DX9.0C, Asus P4S8X-X, Radeon 9700 128mb AGP, 1gb ram, numerous HDD, Sony DVD-+R/RW, Pioneer DVD ROM.
I was recently playing an on-line game, Battlefield vietnam, and I had a crash to the desktop, after several consultations with ea tech support, his/her answer was are you sure you card is AGP as the game only supports this and not pci.
The question arose because dxdiag was showing
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Not Available
I did a bit of searching at MS and found this:
There is a utility that comes with the ATI drivers (latest version installed) called smartgart and this shows:
AGP Settings: set AGP speed off - 4x - 8x current agp speed off.
Fast write (on off radio button greyed out) current status off.
MOB BIOS settings: aperture size 128mb, AGP 3.0 capability 8X mode, AGP fastwrite capability enabled.
I also found somewhere else that said Bus type AGP 4x AGP 8x, current bus setting 0.
I never noticed any problems until this CTD in BfV, I've physically checked the card and it is an AGP card.
so can anybody tell me if AGP is up and running? Is there anyway to test it apart from what dxdiag and this smartgart thing is telling me, before I get back to ea tech support. Surely the game wouldn't run if the card wasn't running in AGP mode?
I was recently playing an on-line game, Battlefield vietnam, and I had a crash to the desktop, after several consultations with ea tech support, his/her answer was are you sure you card is AGP as the game only supports this and not pci.
The question arose because dxdiag was showing
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Not Available
I did a bit of searching at MS and found this:
Even if Dxdiag.exe cannot detect AGP texture acceleration, AGP texture acceleration may still be available. Some video adapter drivers implement AGP texture acceleration and manage their own AGP heap memory, and do not report it to the Microsoft DirectX runtime. Dxdiag.exe uses the GetAvailDriverMemory function to query the display driver. However, some video adapter drivers do not respond to this query. For video adapter drivers that manage AGP Texture Acceleration independent of DirectX, games are not affected by the Dxdiag.exe failure to report the AGP Texture Acceleration status.
AGP Settings: set AGP speed off - 4x - 8x current agp speed off.
Fast write (on off radio button greyed out) current status off.
MOB BIOS settings: aperture size 128mb, AGP 3.0 capability 8X mode, AGP fastwrite capability enabled.
I also found somewhere else that said Bus type AGP 4x AGP 8x, current bus setting 0.
I never noticed any problems until this CTD in BfV, I've physically checked the card and it is an AGP card.
so can anybody tell me if AGP is up and running? Is there anyway to test it apart from what dxdiag and this smartgart thing is telling me, before I get back to ea tech support. Surely the game wouldn't run if the card wasn't running in AGP mode?

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What verson of the ATI drivers are you using? Have you tried reinstalling them? Installing Directx9 again may also help.
The ATI 9700 Pro is only available as an AGP card. The second monitor port on it does show up as a PCI video card though. At least that's how my 9800Pro works, and they aren't that different.
goates
The ATI 9700 Pro is only available as an AGP card. The second monitor port on it does show up as a PCI video card though. At least that's how my 9800Pro works, and they aren't that different.
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spannersatcx,
It sounds like the Mobo's GART Driver is your problem. You need to go to the SiS Website and get all the latest Drivers for your Mobo's Chipset.
Once you have installed the Mobo Drivers, then install the latest ATI Catalyst Drivers.
Take Care,
Richard
It sounds like the Mobo's GART Driver is your problem. You need to go to the SiS Website and get all the latest Drivers for your Mobo's Chipset.
Once you have installed the Mobo Drivers, then install the latest ATI Catalyst Drivers.
Take Care,
Richard
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Using the latest ATI drivers, just cleaned out using the ati cleaner utility and just installed directX 9.0C.
Will look at the SiS website and have a go at that, at work at the moment will update later, thanks.
Will look at the SiS website and have a go at that, at work at the moment will update later, thanks.
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After doing a bit of searching I have found that this is not that uncommon. How many others out there are not running in agp mode without knowing it??
Turned fastwrite off in BIOS, nil help.
Changed AGP setting from 8X to 4X in BIOS and hey presto everything is as it should be. Although in 4X when the card and MOB are allegedly 8X it seems to be one of those compatability issues!!!! I have read that you wouldn't notice any difference between 4X and 8X!
I have downloaded the SiS AGP drivers, although I haven't installed them yet. As it seems to be working not sure if I want to install them, would it make a difference do you think?
Turned fastwrite off in BIOS, nil help.
Changed AGP setting from 8X to 4X in BIOS and hey presto everything is as it should be. Although in 4X when the card and MOB are allegedly 8X it seems to be one of those compatability issues!!!! I have read that you wouldn't notice any difference between 4X and 8X!
I have downloaded the SiS AGP drivers, although I haven't installed them yet. As it seems to be working not sure if I want to install them, would it make a difference do you think?
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spannersatcx,
In order for it to work right, you must install the Mobo Drivers and then install the latest ATI Catalyst Drivers in that order.
If you do not, I can tell you with 100% certainty, it is NOT working properly.
(While you are at it, install all the Mobo Drivers, they are essential to the OS accessing the Mobo Resources properly.)
Take Care,
Richard
In order for it to work right, you must install the Mobo Drivers and then install the latest ATI Catalyst Drivers in that order.
If you do not, I can tell you with 100% certainty, it is NOT working properly.
(While you are at it, install all the Mobo Drivers, they are essential to the OS accessing the Mobo Resources properly.)
Take Care,
Richard





