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Old 13th Sep 2004, 04:23
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Backed up, took a deep breath and plunged right in. Only one minor problem, for which there is a hotfix.

I use Firetrust Benign to filter embedded baddies from HTML-based email. SP2 doesn't like it, or it doesn't like SP2, but there is a KB article which addresses the issue here. The hotfix worked a treat.

Edited to add: A couple of hours later I gave the lappy the same treatment, again with no problems other than the need for the hotfix to satisfy Benign. But since I'd already gone that route once, it was a cinch.

2nd edit: Also, the telephone support by MS in Australia (to get the link for the hotfix - it's not publicly available) was exemplary. One call, no waiting, no need for a callback, and I had the link in my email as soon as I hung up

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Old 13th Sep 2004, 12:38
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I have noticed over the last few days when I was online, windows update was downloading in the background. Yesterday, it asked me to install it which I did. About three hours later the progress bar was about half way accross the screen when I got the dreaded blue screen. I restarted and hardly anything worked. I uninstalled SP2 and things are back to normal.

I could not find the SP2 that was downloaded, I looked for it before I deleted it, it was only in the add/remove bit.

All working ok now but looks like problems when I get the cd through (ordered it a while ago.) when I will have another crack at it.
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Old 13th Sep 2004, 13:37
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BRL,

You could always download the full patch if you have broadband. That way you would not have to rely on the Interent during the install of SP2.

Windows XP Service Pack 2 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers

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Old 14th Sep 2004, 16:51
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Thanks Richard.

I downloaded it yesterday with the plan on installing it today after work. I got home from work and found the CD sent from Microsoft on the mat.

I started the install and it got through about half way again and stopped. A box appeared asking if I knew where DRMK.SYS was, it gave me an option that it was on my C drive or to insert the xp2 disc Disk was in there but it couldn't find the file.

I eventually cancelled it and it carried on with the usual warning that windows may not work if the file was not on the system. On it went for about 10 min's and the same thing happened again, this time asking me for XPSP2res.dl_. Same happened so I cancelled that and it stopped the installation then and started to remove itself.!

Oh well, I might just give it a miss, can't be bothered with the hassle, how come so many of you lot don't have problems like this????............
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Old 14th Sep 2004, 17:29
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The DRMK system driver (drmk.sys) is the Microsoft Kernel DRM Descrambler Filter that decrypts audio streams containing DRM-protected content.

It lives in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers

You may have copies of it on your system.

I found copies in
C:\WINDOWS\LastGood\System32\DRIVERS
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ReinstallBackups\0006\DriverFiles\i386
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ReinstallBackups\0015\DriverFiles\i386

If a core file like this has gone missing you may have other problems.
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Old 14th Sep 2004, 17:49
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I downloaded it on broadband at my last hotel on my Compaq Presario laptop, then the the installation froze 3 times at different stages to the point where I got a message on the last reboot that my XP was now in an unstable state and I had better uninstall SP2 from the Add/Remove! I think I'll wait until I get the Disk and try again. As far as I can see, you've got to get the damn thing done or else you don't get any further Updates and therefore no future protection.
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I decided to upgrade the OS on my standby laptop from XP Home to XP Pro, so sent off to woman-with-spear.co.uk for the official upgrade disk.

Popped it into the disk drive and got the 'Can't install as your copy of Windows is more recent than the disk' warning.

Then decided to uninstall SP2 and try again. Uninstall took ages...
In with the disk again - off it went. But far from an easy install, reboot required heavens knows how many times. Eventually it loaded, but in a very low screen definition. Sorted that out, then I couldn't connect to the Internet as it had done 'something' to the wireless manager. Clicked on something which worked, then registered...then downloaded and installed SP2. Which took an absolute age.....

But all seems OK now..........

Longhorn, anyone? YGBSM!!
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Richard,

On 2 September you wrote
When the time comes for the fresh install, you could slipstream SP2 into you current WinXP CD so when you do the Fresh Install, you would already have SP2.
Through a series of links I found this from Microsoft, which seems to cover what you suggested. But it's very complicated and your quote implied to me that it was easy.

I would like to have a "slipstreamed" or combined XP install and SP2 update on disk. Can you explain your method, or do I have to teach myself scripting, etc, per Microsoft's Combined Installation process?

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Ausatco,

Try:

Slipstreaming Windows XP with Service Pack 2 (SP2)

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Old 15th Sep 2004, 05:15
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Excellent, Richard, thank you very much!

Before proceeding, some further questions arise for Richard or anyone who knows...

There were 2 versions of SP1 - SP1 contained the MS Virtual Machine and following the acrimonious legalities with Sun, MS was required to release SP1a WITHOUT the MSVM. (I have both SP1 and SP1a on a CD, so can use either as necessary.)

Presumably under the same legal constraint, SP2 does not contain the MSVM.[list=1][*]Do I (or does anyone) need to retain MSVM on a Windows system?
[*]If I wanted to retain the MSVM on my machines would I have to do a 2-step integration, the first with SP1 to force inclusion of an updated MSVM, followed by an integration of SP2?
[*]Seeing that MS is no longer allowed to distribute MSVM, what, if anything, would I be losing if I did not integrate SP1 first?
[*]Would the old, unupdated MSVM still be installed (as it is part of the original XP disk to which we are integrating)?
[*]If it is, what are the security implications if not updated with SP1?
[*]If it isn't, what functionality does one lose by not having MSVM on a Windows machine?[/list=1]

Thanks in advance

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Old 15th Sep 2004, 13:24
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Ausatco,

You can still download the MSJVM, there are some links to it in this forum. There are some security issues with MSJVM, and since it is no longer supported by M$, those will not get patched.

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Old 15th Sep 2004, 21:55
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Thanks Richard.

I've made a streamlined XP installation based on an XP disk that was already at SP1 level.

Now I want to do one with an original XP disk (ie, not at SP1 level).

Is SP2 cumulative, or does SP1 have to be applied first?

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Old 16th Sep 2004, 01:57
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Ausatco,

SP2 is cumulative.

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Old 16th Sep 2004, 11:26
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There's nothing like getting news you want to hear! Integrating SP1 would have been difficult - it has an older version of Update.exe that does not support (or is not supported by) the integrate function so you'd have to do it manually as far as I can tell. No thanks.

Cheers Richard

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Old 17th Sep 2004, 03:32
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Ausatco,

Let me know how the install goes with you use your WinXP CD with SP2 Slipstreamed.

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Old 17th Sep 2004, 11:43
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Will do Richard.

To steal your phrase ... Take Care over there and keep your hatches battened. Someone has upset the weather gods, I trust it wasn't you!!!

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Old 17th Sep 2004, 16:20
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Ausatco,

We have been lucky. Most of the weather has missed us. (But you would not think so by what the press has said over the last month.)

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Old 18th Sep 2004, 06:25
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Security Heads-up

Suggest you all read THIS http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18527 and THIS http://www.pcwelt.de/know-how/extras/103039/ ASAP

In certain circumstances after installing SP2 File and Print Sharing is exposed to the world when it previously was not. The fix is not difficult but it is troubling that such a large whoopsie was not picked up.

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You can get a quick check on whether or not you're exposed here.

Click the Proceed button after you've read the text, then do the File Sharing and Common Ports tests on the next page. In fact do all the tests and explore the site. It is very informative.

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Old 18th Sep 2004, 13:53
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I was going to suggest that! I checked mine out and it is fine.

However, I loaded SP2 yesterday and in spite of having DSL it took 1hr and 24 minutes. Very surprising. The second part was nearly 100mb so I would think that Dial-up would be a difficulty.

But..................I am left with programmes taking longer to load, boot-up taking longer and I have two involuntary shutdowns. Those I can do without.

Any ideas. Does something need cleaning maybe?
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