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Old 30th Nov 2019, 03:26
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Strange you reference USD on a Canadian page. In Canada we just call it $53,000
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 14:40
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I used USD for ease of comparison so you donít have to convert other currencies such as the Nigerian Naira to Canadian dollars. Yes, Nigerian pilots make more than new AC pilots.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 20:09
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I would argue it makes the comparison harder. You're not purchasing your goods in USD when earning in CAD, so converting to USD belies the (limited) buying power of the CAD. Many Canadians find living on $50,000 near impossible while others are quite comfortable. Someone living near High-Park in Toronto is likely to have a vastly different idea of how far $50,000 can go than someone living in Lucknow.

With that said, I agree that the pay levels of pilots in Canada are egregious when compared to our confrŤre.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 23:07
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I wasn't aware that currency conversion was difficult in this day and age?
Sounds like the Nigerian aviation sector is better suited for your talents.
I gather that you made your presumptive statement based strictly on the first year pay and not on the full pay scale?
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 23:47
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OP was asking about joining AC. I gave him the first year salary for a 777 FO....which is quite shameful. Donít get a hate-on for me...I didnít negotiate the shitty wages.
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 16:53
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Given the average age and level of experience of new recruits, I can't get too choked about their starting pay. It sucked a whole lot more for those of us who often paid our dues for 15 years or more before we got the privilege of an interview with a major airline.
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 18:07
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It sucked for you so it should suck for everyone? Is that how we move forward? No wonder CEO's of Canadian airlines keep beating the masses down. It's too easy.
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 21:13
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Originally Posted by Left Coaster View Post
It sucked for you so it should suck for everyone? Is that how we move forward? No wonder CEO's of Canadian airlines keep beating the masses down. It's too easy.
Bingo!!!!!
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Old 3rd Dec 2019, 16:10
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Originally Posted by Left Coaster View Post
It sucked for you so it should suck for everyone? Is that how we move forward? No wonder CEO's of Canadian airlines keep beating the masses down. It's too easy.
Way to oversimplify the issue.

Here's the harsh truth - we don't have to like it but it's reality. Union negotiators do not go to the table to negotiate on behalf of people who are not yet on the seniority list. Never have and never will. Every one of them paid their dues at the low end of the pay scale. The company puts a bucket of money on the table and in truth, doesn't much care how it gets divided up. Both sides will have little motivation to change until such time as the company has to start cancelling flights because they can't hire enough people. Even then, it will take a creative approach, such as signing bonuses for new hires who stay on for a set period of time like some regionals are doing in the USA.
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