Moving to Canada
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Moving to Canada
Hello,
My wife and I are considering leaving europe behind us and we are looking in to Canada to build a new future.
I did some research and it looks almost impossible to find a flying job being a foreigner, am I correct?
I fly for an european airline on a regional jet as first officer with a total time of 3000h ( 2500 jet).
We both have a university degree and speak English and French, do you think we could apply for the skilled worker immigration?
And if I then convert my licence, would there be a chance of landing any kind of flying job?
Thank you very much for helping me with my questions.
My wife and I are considering leaving europe behind us and we are looking in to Canada to build a new future.
I did some research and it looks almost impossible to find a flying job being a foreigner, am I correct?
I fly for an european airline on a regional jet as first officer with a total time of 3000h ( 2500 jet).
We both have a university degree and speak English and French, do you think we could apply for the skilled worker immigration?
And if I then convert my licence, would there be a chance of landing any kind of flying job?
Thank you very much for helping me with my questions.
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Unfortunately Spiff, I can't address your specific questions with any degreee of accuracy, but I am able to wish you good luck in your exploration. Canada is a wonderful place .... especially the west in Alberta or Saskatchewan. That's where the opportunity is these days. The east is in economic decline relative to the west, and as will often happen in tough times, portions of the populace inappropriately turn to socialism and class envy to solve their problems.
There is a long-term oversupply of pilots in Canada, which breeds a degree of "Anti-Immigrant Pilot" equivalent of racism. It won't be long before you're exposed to them if you go over to the active Canadian Aviation forum at AvCanada ::: Welcome :::
Don't be put off by them. Some seemingly feel the day they obtained a Commercial Pilot Licence, they are entitled to a guranteed job, and their life-long progression through the industry should be governed by the seniority of their licence number.
This country was built by, and continues to be enhanced by, creative, resilient people with ambition and resolve.
Regards,
The Old Fogducker
There is a long-term oversupply of pilots in Canada, which breeds a degree of "Anti-Immigrant Pilot" equivalent of racism. It won't be long before you're exposed to them if you go over to the active Canadian Aviation forum at AvCanada ::: Welcome :::
Don't be put off by them. Some seemingly feel the day they obtained a Commercial Pilot Licence, they are entitled to a guranteed job, and their life-long progression through the industry should be governed by the seniority of their licence number.
This country was built by, and continues to be enhanced by, creative, resilient people with ambition and resolve.
Regards,
The Old Fogducker
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Hi friends, I would like to discuss availability of jobs in Canada for low time pilots or we can say fresh CPL holders.
I have seen there are many sea planes in Canada but not sure of their criteria of hiring pilots.
Any inputs will be very valuable!!! And one more thing I would like to know that how can we get the right to live and work in Canada??
Thanks!!!
I have seen there are many sea planes in Canada but not sure of their criteria of hiring pilots.
Any inputs will be very valuable!!! And one more thing I would like to know that how can we get the right to live and work in Canada??
Thanks!!!
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Don't be put off by them. Some seemingly feel the day they obtained a Commercial Pilot Licence, they are entitled to a guranteed job, and their life-long progression through the industry should be governed by the seniority of their licence number.
My company has hired just as many "foreign" pilots as we have "local" pilots. The key is that, unfortunately, pilots are not "in-demand" by Immigration Canada, and therefore you should consult with them first before paying for any airline tickets or training.
Home - Citizenship and Immigration Canada - Canada
Once you've done that, then look at how to transfer your license over to the Canadian one - you'll save a lot of money if Immigration says no, but you'll follow all the right steps if they say yes.
From there, most of us search jobs in canada through either AvCanada ::: Welcome ::: or PILOT CAREER CENTRE - Latest Pilot Jobs, Pilot Resume / Pilot CV Design, Interview Preps and more....
Just take note though that you will want to look for a job once you have your licenses in hand. There are many operators (and I'll admit I've been guilty of it myself) who see a resume from a pilot who they cannot hire because they do not yet hold the appropriate Canadian licenses, and that resume goes straight into the rubbish bin, with naught a phone call or e-mail to say sorry.
All in all, as The Old Fogducker pointed out, supply is much greater than demand in Canada right now, so don't be surprised if you get to 30 sent resumes before you get a phone call!
Good luck!
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I came over in 2004. Applied on the Skilled Worker prog (points based) and whole process took 11 months. Could have applied as husband of a CDN citizen but that process at the time took longer.
They tell me the whole thing takes MUCH longer now with half of Iraq and Afghanistan in the queue: last person I spoke to said 3+ years. It's a painfully slow and bureaucratic process and I still come out in a rash at the mere mention of Vegreville.
Initial approval results in Permanent Resident status (the old Landed Immigrant). This gives all rights except the right to vote or sit on a jury. Maybe don't expect too much help overseas - they will just tell you to go see your own embassy of citizenship.
After, I think, 3 years in Canada, you can apply for citizenship. I didn't bother for 5 years. The only real world advantage for me was to get into the US without the old green Visa Waiver forms for UK passport holders.
Is it worth it. Sure. But if you are leaving problems in the UK you are just as likely to encounter same and more here. Mind you, all the geography and fresh air make up for it.
Oh, and yes, the comedians are right..... Canadians are basically uptight Americans!
Sorry everyone.
They tell me the whole thing takes MUCH longer now with half of Iraq and Afghanistan in the queue: last person I spoke to said 3+ years. It's a painfully slow and bureaucratic process and I still come out in a rash at the mere mention of Vegreville.
Initial approval results in Permanent Resident status (the old Landed Immigrant). This gives all rights except the right to vote or sit on a jury. Maybe don't expect too much help overseas - they will just tell you to go see your own embassy of citizenship.
After, I think, 3 years in Canada, you can apply for citizenship. I didn't bother for 5 years. The only real world advantage for me was to get into the US without the old green Visa Waiver forms for UK passport holders.
Is it worth it. Sure. But if you are leaving problems in the UK you are just as likely to encounter same and more here. Mind you, all the geography and fresh air make up for it.
Oh, and yes, the comedians are right..... Canadians are basically uptight Americans!
Sorry everyone.
Canadians are basically uptight Americans!
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....and for "uptight" people the Canucks generally seem to be disturbingly less interested in acts of mass murder than us Americans are. Guess you have to be pretty mellow and relaxed to properly operate an assault rifle these days. Come to think of it most of the folks I know that actually do own them ARE pretty mellow people. America can be a strange place, no?
Joking aside, I got my Canadian ATPL through the FAA - TCCA reciprocal agreement some time back. Mind you just to do some general aviation fun flying, quite happy with my current job stateside. Great country, our northern neighbor. IMHO we could learn a thing or two from them. Like how to not suck at hockey, for one.
Joking aside, I got my Canadian ATPL through the FAA - TCCA reciprocal agreement some time back. Mind you just to do some general aviation fun flying, quite happy with my current job stateside. Great country, our northern neighbor. IMHO we could learn a thing or two from them. Like how to not suck at hockey, for one.
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Westjet's new regional airline "Encore" is hiring. They fly Dash-8 Q-400s. Go to WestJet, WestJet Vacations | Airline Tickets, Seat Sales, Flight Deals, click on "Great jobs" at the bottom of the page, then type in "pilot" for type of job.
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After, I think, 3 years in Canada, you can apply for citizenship. I didn't bother for 5 years.
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Spiff,
You didn't say what both you & your wife's degrees are. Have you thought about emigrating but NOT as a pilot? The largest aerospace employer in Canada is currently staffing up for the CSeries program and, as it's based in Quebec, being a francophone is a definite advantage. Once in, the possibilities for switching over to a flying job will only increase as there's over six ongoing other programs plus sustaining.
You didn't say what both you & your wife's degrees are. Have you thought about emigrating but NOT as a pilot? The largest aerospace employer in Canada is currently staffing up for the CSeries program and, as it's based in Quebec, being a francophone is a definite advantage. Once in, the possibilities for switching over to a flying job will only increase as there's over six ongoing other programs plus sustaining.
