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Here's my thoughts - and apologies if I seem blunt, but I am only trying to help:
- As someone said earlier, your experience for the Canadian market doesn't fit the norm and your hours total isn't enough for a jet ride with a line. In excess of twice the hours you have at a minimum. Bare minimum.
- Good to hear you have a work permit - a work permit entitles you to work for a specific employer in a specific role, which that employer must get authorization for after proving no-one in Canada can do the job for which you will be granted authorization. I.e. once you're here, you can't swap jobs without another work permit. You'll also get a temporary social insurance number - I think starting with a "9" which denotes a temporary worker and you won't get credit etc.
- If you have Permanent Residency - or perhaps you are a Canadian citizen living in Mumbai - who knows - disregard the above, but I suspect the above applies, as residency is usually only granted after living in the country on a work permit OR you have gone through the formal immigration process and been accepted.
- If you do come to Canada, the salary would not be up to what you get today, and you'll lag behind for many years as you become part of the Canadian aviation scene and job market.
Now, the reason I know all of this immigration stuff, is we have friends who have been through it, and I've seen the troubles it can cause. Any specifics, you're free to PM me if you'd like.
Good luck.
- As someone said earlier, your experience for the Canadian market doesn't fit the norm and your hours total isn't enough for a jet ride with a line. In excess of twice the hours you have at a minimum. Bare minimum.
- Good to hear you have a work permit - a work permit entitles you to work for a specific employer in a specific role, which that employer must get authorization for after proving no-one in Canada can do the job for which you will be granted authorization. I.e. once you're here, you can't swap jobs without another work permit. You'll also get a temporary social insurance number - I think starting with a "9" which denotes a temporary worker and you won't get credit etc.
- If you have Permanent Residency - or perhaps you are a Canadian citizen living in Mumbai - who knows - disregard the above, but I suspect the above applies, as residency is usually only granted after living in the country on a work permit OR you have gone through the formal immigration process and been accepted.
- If you do come to Canada, the salary would not be up to what you get today, and you'll lag behind for many years as you become part of the Canadian aviation scene and job market.
Now, the reason I know all of this immigration stuff, is we have friends who have been through it, and I've seen the troubles it can cause. Any specifics, you're free to PM me if you'd like.
Good luck.
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I have a PR for Canada which means I need not be stuck with one employer. Thanks a lot REMARKABLEBEAN for your comments.
I agree that as far as Commercial Aviation is concerned my total hours are less but I been in aviation for the last 16 years almost.
I am willing to wait for my Command and get around 1000 hours before starting the search again.
This should take around 2 years time and I think by that time the aviation market in Canada would be better....right Mr Remarkablebean??
I agree that as far as Commercial Aviation is concerned my total hours are less but I been in aviation for the last 16 years almost.
I am willing to wait for my Command and get around 1000 hours before starting the search again.
This should take around 2 years time and I think by that time the aviation market in Canada would be better....right Mr Remarkablebean??
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Hang around a bit longer and get your command. Not worth it moving here at this point. Pay is better, vertical mobility is better and they really don't regard outside experience highly as pointed out with square/round peg and the exposure from GA in Canada. A better option would be is to check out
avcanada.ca which will give you a better and more accurate picture of the state of Canadian aviation.
I moved from Canada to get a job in your neighbourhood and as much as I miss Canada, flying is more than paying the bills and command on a medium jet is a lot closer than it is for a lot of folks in Canada... not that that's everybody's thing. It was a big sacrifice cos I kid you not when I say that the standard of living is WAY higher in Canada than it is in India (not necessarily on a pilots salary). But the point I'm making is that there are tons of guys who can literally walk into a job on much bigger and better equipment anywhere in the world but choose to stay due to personal reasons. I was lucky enough to have a wife who didn't mind leaving Canada so the transition has been much better.
A whole lot of expats in the Gulf are from Canada and moved there reluctantly due to the parade of bankruptcies and shutdowns that have plagued Canada since as far as I can remember. And unlike India or a significant part of the world there is no such thing as DEC since there are WAY too many guys with a lot more experience... might not be a push button 320 but the venerable GA of Canada. So if the economy sneezes you will lose your job at the bottom of a very long seniority list in say.... AC (which...based on the replies you have NO shot at anyway) and have no other viable options on similiar a/c types.
Stay where you are dude. Get the LHS, make the big moolah.... before you know it plenty of airlines will meet your experience level without requiring local GA experience (which is a prerequisite for any job in Canada apparently) or the thousands of hours required to just get an interview ( which you won't get cos you don't have any GA experience.... in CANADA).
Good luck and will probably hear on the radio over UUD. Cheers.
avcanada.ca which will give you a better and more accurate picture of the state of Canadian aviation.
I moved from Canada to get a job in your neighbourhood and as much as I miss Canada, flying is more than paying the bills and command on a medium jet is a lot closer than it is for a lot of folks in Canada... not that that's everybody's thing. It was a big sacrifice cos I kid you not when I say that the standard of living is WAY higher in Canada than it is in India (not necessarily on a pilots salary). But the point I'm making is that there are tons of guys who can literally walk into a job on much bigger and better equipment anywhere in the world but choose to stay due to personal reasons. I was lucky enough to have a wife who didn't mind leaving Canada so the transition has been much better.
A whole lot of expats in the Gulf are from Canada and moved there reluctantly due to the parade of bankruptcies and shutdowns that have plagued Canada since as far as I can remember. And unlike India or a significant part of the world there is no such thing as DEC since there are WAY too many guys with a lot more experience... might not be a push button 320 but the venerable GA of Canada. So if the economy sneezes you will lose your job at the bottom of a very long seniority list in say.... AC (which...based on the replies you have NO shot at anyway) and have no other viable options on similiar a/c types.
Stay where you are dude. Get the LHS, make the big moolah.... before you know it plenty of airlines will meet your experience level without requiring local GA experience (which is a prerequisite for any job in Canada apparently) or the thousands of hours required to just get an interview ( which you won't get cos you don't have any GA experience.... in CANADA).
Good luck and will probably hear on the radio over UUD. Cheers.
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Thanks a lot for your reply....I am aware about the fact that the scenario is not so rosy in Canada but my wife who happens to be a Aussie is keen on settling down there as she has lots of relatives out there and expect a better social life living out there.
This has prompted me to check out the aviaition industry out there.
What is the outlook in GA in Canada and the general salary structure?
Since I am planning to visit Canada in the last week of this month, I am planning to meet as much people as possible to check out the aviaition sector.
If possible , Please do guide me in this regards and we will surely hear eachother over UUD...cheers and happy landings :-)
This has prompted me to check out the aviaition industry out there.
What is the outlook in GA in Canada and the general salary structure?
Since I am planning to visit Canada in the last week of this month, I am planning to meet as much people as possible to check out the aviaition sector.
If possible , Please do guide me in this regards and we will surely hear eachother over UUD...cheers and happy landings :-)
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Well then that makes things tough for you if the significant other is hoping to move out of India. If you are willing to sacrifice your current job then all the power to you. As mentioned earlier you will need a little bit more experience if you want to qualify for jobs similiar to what you hold right now.
With Zoom gone and impending closures in other outfits... along with all other regionals suspending hiring being there at the end of this month will not give you much hope. When you get there you will get a fair idea of the salary structure and see that financially it just doesn't make sense to do it.
But nevertheless talk to as many people as you can and drop in your resume so they can put a face to your name. You never know what might open up for you. Let's face it..... people will call you a button pusher but 320 time is 320 time. And if you wait it out just a little bit longer your 320 PIC time will become invaluable in your quest for a job in Canada.
My wife, who is French Canadian, refuses to go back home and take a significant paycut, so my options are limited as of now despite the fact that I am willing to take a downgrade in equipment and remuneration just to be home.
Hopefully in the long run all our decisions eventually lead us to a happier place both personally and professionally.
Enjoy your vacation.
With Zoom gone and impending closures in other outfits... along with all other regionals suspending hiring being there at the end of this month will not give you much hope. When you get there you will get a fair idea of the salary structure and see that financially it just doesn't make sense to do it.
But nevertheless talk to as many people as you can and drop in your resume so they can put a face to your name. You never know what might open up for you. Let's face it..... people will call you a button pusher but 320 time is 320 time. And if you wait it out just a little bit longer your 320 PIC time will become invaluable in your quest for a job in Canada.
My wife, who is French Canadian, refuses to go back home and take a significant paycut, so my options are limited as of now despite the fact that I am willing to take a downgrade in equipment and remuneration just to be home.
Hopefully in the long run all our decisions eventually lead us to a happier place both personally and professionally.
Enjoy your vacation.
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Thanks Av8r76
I'll surely try and enjoy the vacation. I know the realities. I had spent better part of my life flying the high speed fighter jets and never gave a damn about the outside world where things swing around so widly. Always felt like a king in the sky being able to do what I want. I am willing to take a lower salary and am also willing to wait. So I guess 3 years time from now on should do me good. Expect to get around 1000 hrs PIC on type.
Maybe that might help my cause.
Thanks once again.
Maybe that might help my cause.
Thanks once again.
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Not too far off what Post #2 and #3 suggested.
Mid to high $30k's as a base salary based on somewhere between 70 to 75 hours per month. Throw in per diems and a bit of OT and your T4 might read around the $44-$50k for the year.
Take home pay and quality of life will depend on where you get based and whether you decide to commute or not. A Year 1 FO salary working and living in Calgary is fairly different from the same salary living and working in Toronto.
Mid to high $30k's as a base salary based on somewhere between 70 to 75 hours per month. Throw in per diems and a bit of OT and your T4 might read around the $44-$50k for the year.
Take home pay and quality of life will depend on where you get based and whether you decide to commute or not. A Year 1 FO salary working and living in Calgary is fairly different from the same salary living and working in Toronto.
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Not too far off what Post #2 and #3 suggested.
Mid to high $30k's as a base salary based on somewhere between 70 to 75 hours per month. Throw in per diems and a bit of OT and your T4 might read around the $44-$50k for the year.
Take home pay and quality of life will depend on where you get based and whether you decide to commute or not. A Year 1 FO salary working and living in Calgary is fairly different from the same salary living and working in Toronto.
Mid to high $30k's as a base salary based on somewhere between 70 to 75 hours per month. Throw in per diems and a bit of OT and your T4 might read around the $44-$50k for the year.
Take home pay and quality of life will depend on where you get based and whether you decide to commute or not. A Year 1 FO salary working and living in Calgary is fairly different from the same salary living and working in Toronto.
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Not too far off what Post #2 and #3 suggested.
Mid to high $30k's as a base salary based on somewhere between 70 to 75 hours per month. Throw in per diems and a bit of OT and your T4 might read around the $44-$50k for the year.
Take home pay and quality of life will depend on where you get based and whether you decide to commute or not. A Year 1 FO salary working and living in Calgary is fairly different from the same salary living and working in Toronto.
Mid to high $30k's as a base salary based on somewhere between 70 to 75 hours per month. Throw in per diems and a bit of OT and your T4 might read around the $44-$50k for the year.
Take home pay and quality of life will depend on where you get based and whether you decide to commute or not. A Year 1 FO salary working and living in Calgary is fairly different from the same salary living and working in Toronto.
