Leave LH!! Join Virgin or Emirates
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Leave LH!! Join Virgin or Emirates
Evening everyone!
We recently found out about this website and are seeking for any information concerning employment as flight attendant w/ Virgin Atlantic and Emirates.
We, that are two 25 yrs young flight attentants (both male) from Munic, Germany, currently employed at Lufthansa. Working on the A-340 and A-320 (sometimes) we are looking for a change in our lives. Germany becomes more and more boring, the love about London keeps on growing and yet we´re sick of the way people are treated by our company.
Actually we´ve been ready for a change for quiet a long time, but even now we get more serious with this idea. Appreciated are any information concerning application, screening procedures, salaries, expenses, insurances, duty times, off-days, allowances, hotels, crew services, destinations etc. All we can promise -if the word "promise" in the internet is belived to be honest or not- is that we´ll treat the given information carefully.
Since we´ve nothin´ to hide about our company, here are some data from our everydays-life:
Salary FEB ´03: € 1260,- + approx € 550,- expenses, social insurance is partly paid by the company, health insurance according to german law is payed 50:50....
Schedule FEB ´03:
01-03 FEB ORD
07-09 FEB JFK
12-15 FEB JNB
19-22 FEB BOS
25-28 REQUESTED OFF-DAYS
e.g. FEB ´03 got us 74 FLYING HOURS,
the basis on which we´re paid. An everage of 15-18 days OFF should be thought of. Good further training provided, extra money for each additional language spoken (excluding English)and though the opportunities are wide, we like to CHANGE!!
As a matter of fact we were not able to gain "1st-class-information" by current employees of Virgin and EK. However, without details a decision can not be made and therefore we´re kindly asking for your help!
Thanks a lot in advance and ALWAYS HAPPY LANDINGS!
Looking4Change
We recently found out about this website and are seeking for any information concerning employment as flight attendant w/ Virgin Atlantic and Emirates.
We, that are two 25 yrs young flight attentants (both male) from Munic, Germany, currently employed at Lufthansa. Working on the A-340 and A-320 (sometimes) we are looking for a change in our lives. Germany becomes more and more boring, the love about London keeps on growing and yet we´re sick of the way people are treated by our company.
Actually we´ve been ready for a change for quiet a long time, but even now we get more serious with this idea. Appreciated are any information concerning application, screening procedures, salaries, expenses, insurances, duty times, off-days, allowances, hotels, crew services, destinations etc. All we can promise -if the word "promise" in the internet is belived to be honest or not- is that we´ll treat the given information carefully.
Since we´ve nothin´ to hide about our company, here are some data from our everydays-life:
Salary FEB ´03: € 1260,- + approx € 550,- expenses, social insurance is partly paid by the company, health insurance according to german law is payed 50:50....
Schedule FEB ´03:
01-03 FEB ORD
07-09 FEB JFK
12-15 FEB JNB
19-22 FEB BOS
25-28 REQUESTED OFF-DAYS
e.g. FEB ´03 got us 74 FLYING HOURS,
the basis on which we´re paid. An everage of 15-18 days OFF should be thought of. Good further training provided, extra money for each additional language spoken (excluding English)and though the opportunities are wide, we like to CHANGE!!
As a matter of fact we were not able to gain "1st-class-information" by current employees of Virgin and EK. However, without details a decision can not be made and therefore we´re kindly asking for your help!
Thanks a lot in advance and ALWAYS HAPPY LANDINGS!
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I wouldn't leave LH other than for BA in the UK. If you are not happy about what you want to leave, you would be miserable in what you would find.
Your present working conditions are way above any company could offer you in UK (ah, and even EK). Remember, you won't stay young and fit forever!
Stick to pprune for a couple of months and get an idea of what people have to put up with outside the "Big".
Your present working conditions are way above any company could offer you in UK (ah, and even EK). Remember, you won't stay young and fit forever!
Stick to pprune for a couple of months and get an idea of what people have to put up with outside the "Big".
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Air Malta
Kay-M:
What about your Company pay and conditions?
My mates on the Azzurra Air lease will be working for your airline, and ALL they will get is £11.000 per year ALL INCLUSIVE, which according to a calculator is £916.66 (before taxes) with no insurances or pension scheme .... what about that?
Also to mention lack of days off during the summer, temporary contract, horrendous ammount of flying and duty hours, no nightstops, night flights and charter pax, no crew benefits as staff travel and the list can go on and on and on
Kay-M:
What about your Company pay and conditions?
My mates on the Azzurra Air lease will be working for your airline, and ALL they will get is £11.000 per year ALL INCLUSIVE, which according to a calculator is £916.66 (before taxes) with no insurances or pension scheme .... what about that?
Also to mention lack of days off during the summer, temporary contract, horrendous ammount of flying and duty hours, no nightstops, night flights and charter pax, no crew benefits as staff travel and the list can go on and on and on
Remember, you won't stay young and fit forever!
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Let's say that the reason why Azzurra did not take on AirMalta Cabin Crew is that we are "too expensive" !
A basic "all inclusive" pay is not good for the airlne either. Crew have no incentive to work and they will report sick frequently.
I met a few Azzurra new recruits returning home after their training in Malta. I wish them luck. Sorry that the conditions are not, well, ideal.
A basic "all inclusive" pay is not good for the airlne either. Crew have no incentive to work and they will report sick frequently.
I met a few Azzurra new recruits returning home after their training in Malta. I wish them luck. Sorry that the conditions are not, well, ideal.
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re EK
Hi guys well here is some brief info
pay starts at 3640 dhs not sure what the exchange rate is in Euros but for pounds it is around 5.5
This is basic pay on top of that you get flying pay which will be I think 2 or 3000 dhs extra. depending on your flights, and obviously this increases with each promotion and length of employment
On top of this you get your hotel expenses which for LGW is 60 UK sterling a night, it all depends on where you go. Once you ar ein J/C or F/C then you have duty free commission on top which is 10% o fwhat you sell and of course the wages are TAX FREE!!!
Your accommodation is ALL paid for as are all your bills, water ,electricity A/C etc so this all adds up to one of the best paid packages in the industry. All furniture is provided as is crockery., cutlery, ironing board, iron, washing machine, cooker etc
roster wise you have about 75 hours flying , sometimes less around 60 sometimes more if busy i.e 90 hours. You get around 8 or 9 proper days off, ie no duty what so ever and numerous rest days, where you land after midnight and get the rest of the day off, unless they give you minium rest which can happen although not often. so you can have half the month off effectively.
You can request up to either 15 days of your roster or 5 flights, only one of which which can be a popular flight and you can request 3 days off a month.
Hope this helps. Virgin pay is not very good but when it all comes down to it is is personal choice. Dubai is a great place to live, very westernised, but really hot in the summer!!! I have heard good things about Virgin, but I am really happy in Dubai.
Good Luck!!!
pay starts at 3640 dhs not sure what the exchange rate is in Euros but for pounds it is around 5.5
This is basic pay on top of that you get flying pay which will be I think 2 or 3000 dhs extra. depending on your flights, and obviously this increases with each promotion and length of employment
On top of this you get your hotel expenses which for LGW is 60 UK sterling a night, it all depends on where you go. Once you ar ein J/C or F/C then you have duty free commission on top which is 10% o fwhat you sell and of course the wages are TAX FREE!!!
Your accommodation is ALL paid for as are all your bills, water ,electricity A/C etc so this all adds up to one of the best paid packages in the industry. All furniture is provided as is crockery., cutlery, ironing board, iron, washing machine, cooker etc
roster wise you have about 75 hours flying , sometimes less around 60 sometimes more if busy i.e 90 hours. You get around 8 or 9 proper days off, ie no duty what so ever and numerous rest days, where you land after midnight and get the rest of the day off, unless they give you minium rest which can happen although not often. so you can have half the month off effectively.
You can request up to either 15 days of your roster or 5 flights, only one of which which can be a popular flight and you can request 3 days off a month.
Hope this helps. Virgin pay is not very good but when it all comes down to it is is personal choice. Dubai is a great place to live, very westernised, but really hot in the summer!!! I have heard good things about Virgin, but I am really happy in Dubai.
Good Luck!!!
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I honstly wouldn't bother going to Virgin. I've only been there 8 months and looking for another job already! I've flown before and it's put me off flying altogether.
The salary is crap along with the allowances.
The salary is crap along with the allowances.
