BA BASSA Message - TUPE

[OnTheLocaliser]

It's not Ryanair at the moment, granted, but its edging closer wouldn't you say? Paying for uniforms from April 2009 - you heard it here first.

[sussex2]

I worked for AA for fifteen years. It was outsource this, outsource that one week. Then 'oh dear no' that isn't working and back in house it all came. It was a rollercoaster ride they didn't seem able to get off, but, mostly confined to the hard working ground crews.
The only people who got any kind of financial reward for it were the companies that came up with the tin pot ideas.
About the only sensible idea was to reduce headquarters staff by three quarters - more than two steps removed from the pax and you were out.
But hey ho and guess what I'd put a quid on it each way that those numbers are back up again.
BA have a good base of experience, professional cabin crew, not all of them by any means prone to sudden bouts of sickness over Wimbledon or Ascot. They should, with the help of the unions respect this and bring these people forward, and, deal properly with those that are taking the mickey.

[wiggy]

marlowe

"We all know what path BA would take they showed that with the pilots".

I think the real lesson from the "Open Skies" ballot was you had better be sure of your legal position before you ballot - the Cabin Crew Unions might stand more chance balloting over stale sandwiches and Uniforms than we did over obscure details in EU treaties.

.... " and they are now Willies B*tches so what have they to lose ?" Being presumably older then you I'm not up to speed with todays yoof and gangsta talk....it sounds like a somewhat derogatory comment - I hope it isn't; care to explain

[marlowe]

wiggy you are showing your age !!!! a term from American prisons where an older prisoner usually a guy serving life takes a naive younger prisoner and makes him his "wife" in all senses of the word Or put another way big BA showing little naive BALPA the way it is in the world they are both in . As a pilot workforce Wiggy you were let down by your union it didnt want to lose any money fighting your case in the courts, Willy now knows that he can beat BALPA every time by seeking court action and they will back down because all they care about is money and not its members interests . Hence you will all do as he wishes in the future, you have become his B*tches .

[Juan Tugoh]

My what an active imagination you have marlowe. But if you think like that, what makes you think WW will not employ the same tactics against BASSA? Or do they have deeper pockets or are they somehow immune to the new regime in Waterside?

[marlowe]

JT, without a shadow of a doubt BASSA would cave in thats the trouble with unions now they look on themselves as a business to make money not as a union to protect workers rights. I expect to become one of Willys B*tches in the not to distant future! lol!!!!!

[HZ123]

How many CC would wish to strike and how many could afford too. Am I not correct in stating that on the last strike CC were returning to work in their 1000's. Many threaders have made the observation that the industry has and is about too change drastically, those of us that are lucky to enjoy decades of good terms and conditions have little influence today. CC of the 2000's have vastly differing attitudes to those some of us held. Let us face it like so many other tasks it is just another job from which many will move on to other things. It is not so loing ago all BA staff were up in arms about the pension and the actions that we were going to take, in the end nothing happened BA did what they will which is exactly what will happen now.

[marlowe]

HZ123 you are correct in saying that the crew of the 2000s have different attitudes , nobody seems to care about terms and conditions that much anymore . I work in a section that has a fairly high Eastern european contingent at the moment and its all about the money, nothing wrong in that we all want to earn a decent wage but they are not worried about better terms and conditions in the long term because they know they wont be here that long , so they work all the days off they can legally get away with ,and get as many trips as they can at the expense of the other crews ,earn the money and are totally oblivious to the fact that they are driving down working conditions for everyone else .

[galanjal]

have read loads on here about what might happen and also heard loads of different rumours every time i go to work. nobody on here knows for sure what will actually happen. and that's a fact! lhr crew are under review and that should come as no suprise. we are the last faction of crew who are paid decent wages for what we do. i really hope we keep what we have as so many pax have said that they love the british part of ba. and that includes all of our european crew obviously but pax do love the british attitude and accent too.