SilverJet

[atmosphere]

Looking from the outside

Befree, you pointed out the financial mismanagement that your CEO seems to be spinning, and making a mountain, look like a mole hill is good work.

However, BoB, you seem like a very loyal crewmember for which I'm sure Silverjet are very grateful. from what I hear... they need them! However your comment below is scary..

Whilst I fully respect your input and factual based calculations, please spare a thought for the emotional aspects that are involved. Disparaging remarks already made by crew members (and former crew members) on this site are read by many crew within the company, can we not spare a thought for them?

Silverjets number spinning and sprinkling fairy dust on the financial books to make things look rosey will not bode well for your suppliers, and customers. Befree pointed out that the figures are indeed incorrect, and that shouldn't be forgotten, just to spare some emotional grief.

Silverjet needs to wake up, and make changes to there ineffiecient aircraft, which seem probed with technical issues!

Silverjet WILL go bust and pretending to the financial markets that they are doing very well, sending out "facts" (and I use the term loosely) like below!

“We are delighted to announce another record month of passenger statistics representing an increase of 10.5% since November and 77% since August. Forward bookings remain strong for both our New York and Dubai services and yields remain ahead of expectations. The feedback from our customers and media in respect of Silverjet’s Dubai service has been fantastic and we remain very confident about this new route.
“During the month we booked a significant number of MAXjet passengers on our New York service as a result of our successful promotion to honour the MAXjet ticket price for a limited number of seats, following MAXjet’s filing for bankruptcy. Silverjet is in a very strong position, not only with our superior service in terms of our 30 minute check in, flat bed and private jet experience, but also our financial position having just raised a further £22m of investment to fund our growth. Before MAXjet ceased to operate, our average yield was over 50% higher than MAXjet’s and our revenue per aircraft was two and a half times higher than MAXjet’s in our first half year of operation, as well as our fuel cost per sector being 23% lower.
“In addition to seeing an increasing number of enquiries from corporate customers, we continue to see a very encouraging rise in the number of repeat customers. I am delighted to report that over 20% of our customers who are booking have flown with Silverjet at least once before.
“With the well publicised possibilities of strike action in the coming weeks at BAA operated airports and with one of our competitors, we are also seeing a strong increase in bookings from corporate customers who are normally restricted from flying only with specific airlines. In addition, our Silverjet Set company loyalty scheme introduced in November has seen over 700 registrations since launch and is proving hugely popular with Silverjet’s business travellers."

Suppliers, Crew, Investors, and Customers, will only be fooled for so long!

Sphere

[befree]

I hate spin and playing with numbers to make dreadful numbers look good. I understand that to get funding the CEO has to come as close to being dishonest as he can without actualy telling a lie. The airline has expanded too quickly. It should be getting the first service profitable before moving on. At the end of working with one plane it managed 80% load factor. Adding extra planes too fast means every sector is making a loss. The oil price is very high so the airline should be waiting to expand to when or if the conditions get better. I do feel sorry for the staff who have joined an airline that has started at just the wrong time.

[747-436]

The rest of the stats are rubish as well. 23% higher sector fuel for maxjet is due to them going to the west coast.

While there is a bit of spin in that sentence it is also true as Silverjet did indeed have lower fuel per sector as they flew shorter routes!

What they really need to compare would be fuel cost per 1000 miles flown or something like that, that would show a like for like comparison.

[atmosphere]

What are the crew attritian rates like!?

[missydk]

hi there

I was just wondering how long it usually takes before you hear anything back after having sent an application??

Thanks

[LAX20531]

Does Silverjet have 120 min ETOPS?

What they really need to compare would be fuel cost per 1000 miles flown or something like that, that would show a like for like comparison.

Remember, Maxjet was never qualified for 120 minute or greater ETOPS, meaning their flights were all operated under the 60 minute rule. This could have caused them to spend significantly more on fuel. I agree that a comparison needs to be made on cost per pound or 1000 miles or some other method.

Does Silverjet have 120 min ETOPS or are they operating under the same rule that MY was?

[Ops! I did it again]

Silverjet has 180 minutes ETOPS. we plan our flights using 138mins

Massive fuel savings compared to less than 120mins

Im a Silverjet Pilot... Sorry for intruding into your forum. I just thought Id answer the etops question for ya!

PS. I'll just add that we have the nicest bunch of Cabin crew ya could ever ask for! A pleasure to work with you all.

[LAX20531]

Silverjet has 180 minutes ETOPS

Thanks. Well that solves our fuel issue. Regardless of what the comparison was between Y7 and MY, MY clearly spent significantly more on fuel due to not being certified for ETOPS. It's unlikely they would have been certified anytime soon either given the massive number of mechanicals, diversions, and tech issues. The white ghost seemed to be grounded more than it was in the air, plus the announced idea of using one of the 762's as a "spare" is clearly not a financially responsible use of assets.

Even given all this, I still think it's possible that Y7 is only trailing MY in time. Time will tell.

[Ops! I did it again]

I will respectfully disagree with you on that!

I think we will do just fine.

I will now leave the Cabin crew forum and crawl back into the flightdeck!!!

ops I did it again! x

[chezdubai]

Advice Please!!!

Hi, I was reading your post- great info, but im in abit ov a dilema. I am working for Emirates Airline based in dubai. do bout 5-6 flights a month with alot ov time off really, pay is ok, around £1200- £1300 a month transport to and from wrk and lovely company accom for free. I have an interview for Silverjet as I a wanting to return home. but my home in UK is in Cheshire, maybe I will have to move to nearer if I got job. I would really apprieciate if you could tell how much you get a month. also do crew comute and how long are your layovers? oh and is it true you have to find own accom while training.
reading some ov the threads im not sure my making a good decision, even flying back for the interview.

[chezdubai]

I have to say after sitting here for hours reading all coments on Silverjet I have made my mind up not to go for the interview which is end of month. I realise that like most airlines and jobs have there problems. I am pleased I have read all comments and find this info very helpful, as I may have been making a big mistake. I am working for Emirates airline and think I may continue to stay as the perks are great, and the trips are ok too.

[llanfairpg]

Be very careful with SJ

A friend had a pilots interview with them recently and although they were supposed to let him know before Christmas they have only in the last few days told him of the oucome despite numerous phone calls and emails.

[HZ123]

Sounds just like BA then. It seems that the aviation industry has much to learn.

[flygirl28]

Chezdubai - of course you are entitled to your decision, but the negative comments on this forum are posted by a minority. Bare in mind that SJ has grown in numbers and despite the two people who post to the contrary, the majority of crew are extremely happy.
I too used to work for Emirates and can say with all honesty that the move for myself was a good one. Feel free to PM me if you have any concerns or anything you would like clarifying.

With regards to the waiting time on interviews, SJ are no different to any other carrier, BA, Emirates etc, you cannot take this as an indication of what a company are like to work for.

Safe flying to all.

[Mr Angry from Purley]

llanfairpg

It's very simple, they offered Job to another Pilot he said no for whatever reason. They then offer to your Pilot friend

[BestonBoard]

Re: Recruitment Replies

Many thanks for all of your contributions. As I am sure many are aware, the initial new year period is a very busy time. Not just for Silverjet, but also for individuals. Could it be a possibility that our recruitment team were awaiting responses from a number of individuals before they made their announcement about successful candidates? Just a speculation...

I hope everybody is having a successful New Year so far, may it be a prosperous one for all...

Regards

Bob

[llanfairpg]

It's very simple, they offered Job to another Pilot he said no for whatever reason. They then offer to your Pilot friend

With simplicity such as that I can see why you are angry and in Purley.

I would add that the pilot that went in in front of my colleague for the interview was advised (selected) a couple of days later which says little for their interview techniques and selection procedures. I would advise they take up references very carefully!

[speedbird-lgw]

hey got an interview with silverjet,
been reding the posts on here
but can it really be that bad ??

[BestonBoard]

Fao Speedbird...

Hi there,

Unfortunately the majority of the posts on here do seem very one sided. To be honest, a lot of our crew do not post on here, and do not even look at the site...

From my perspective, I have been with Silverjet since the very beginning, and I am very happy. As a start up airline things needed a little time to sort out teething issues. We have more and more crew coming on line now, so any issues with rostering etc will be rectified very shortly.
I love my job, and will always be a devoted advocate for us...

Come for your interview, and make your own mind up! Thats the best piece of advice I can give...

Good luck if you decide to go for it...

BoB

[missydk]

hello

I applied for a cabin crew position with silverjet in mid december. I haven't heard anything and I was wondering if I will get a rejection email if im not selected? basically whether I can expect to hear from them or now.

Cheers