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Old 2nd Feb 2009, 00:55
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Well said bkkfly.

Also I like that rumor, definately a step in the right direction if it happens. But doubt it happens, as then those from the less privileged countries will then be earning less I suppose There's already enough bitching about Emrati's earning basically double that of what any of us do, so if we all earn different amounts, could you imagine the anger?

On another note, loving the triple daily service to Melbourne! Easier to get flights home now, and no more ridiculous 17 hour layover in Melbourne
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Old 2nd Feb 2009, 11:07
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Thank you all for the objective posts. I must agree with everbody in all points which were raised.
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Old 2nd Feb 2009, 12:36
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Being treated like a number. I would except that's the case with most larger airlines as it's probably impossible to know every single person that's working for them. It even happens at BA and LH and probably at ground based companies also.

Also as for swiping your ID card to gain access to the HQ could have something to do with security, couldn't it...
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Old 2nd Feb 2009, 13:51
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Thumbs up Crew Portal

Hey all,

I'm hoping someone can help me. I have a mac book and cannot get onto some parts of the portal, most importantly e-swap. Does anyone know what i have to do, programs to download etc. Going into HQ to do my swapping is getting a bit old.

Thanks Kids.


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Old 4th Feb 2009, 13:58
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It's just been confirmed that we'll be flying to Durban from the 1st of October, just in time for the World Cup in 2010

Flight EK775 will depart Dubai at 0445hrs, arriving at Durban International Airport at 1130hrs. The return flight, EK 766, leaves Durban at 1300hrs and gets into Dubai at 2340hrs. A 278-seat Airbus A330-200 in a two-class configuration will be deployed on the flight, lasting around 8hrs 45 minutes.
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Old 5th Feb 2009, 07:08
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E-Swap Shop

Can someone please explain as to what does "FDP CC " stand for ! I keep getting this reason for all my swaps that get rejected...On E-mailing the swap team, I got an out of office reply stating that they are currently Revamping the SWAP SHOP!!!!!!
Now here's a set of ppl that P*ss me off !
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Old 5th Feb 2009, 19:31
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Upgrades for the month of March have been put on hold as rumors continue to swirl about unpaid leave...If it happens I wonder how it will work, I imagine a lot of people will go for it. Will it be based on first come first served, or seniority?
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Old 5th Feb 2009, 20:07
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It is true, we have most definitely stopped recruitment and all upgrades from March 09 until further notice. Was told this yesterday by the cabin crew managers who came to graduation. They state that this could be a good thing as now they can focus on consistency. Big word the latter!

If the rumours are to be true, that would be awesome to get rid of Sao Paolo, the layover is way too short and even the Lufthansa crew mocks us for flying god-knows-how-long for a layover that still leaves you feeling like a zombie when back on the aircraft to Dubai. The Brasilians will not be too happy though if that route goes!

Oh, cancellation of the A380! Wohoo! That whale should never have seen the light of day. Bring on more Boeings I say, preferably the new 747s Intercontinental.
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Old 5th Feb 2009, 23:44
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I actually heard a rumor that Sao Paolo will be becoming a double daily. I haven't done the flight before, are the loads usually pretty light? It wasn't so long ago that there was talk of Rio being a new destination, so it's interesting to see if we pull out of Brazil all together.

Also, today in London, got to see one of our A380's take off finally after being stuck here for 4 days...no cabin crew, no passengers, just cockpit crew. Gotta love the way that thing is just chewing up money at the moment When will they ever iron out the problems?
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Old 6th Feb 2009, 09:00
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Oh, cancellation of the A380! Wohoo! That whale should never have seen the light of day. Bring on more Boeings I say, preferably the new 747s Intercontinental.
We do have the 747-8I on order but its for Sky Cargo. EK would have loved to buy the 787 but Boeing is not ready to Upsize the Aircraft as of now ..so we decided to buy the COPY version of it ..the A350 instead (which is still on the drawing board !!!) . Also the fact that Airbus Industrie has always managed to give EK a SUBSTANTIAL discount on all of its products. Besides EK is now in a REAL dilemma because the A380 Burns a LOT more fuel than the 777-300er on any given mission ! So much for the credibility of Airbus calculating Fuel Burn.
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hey there

do you know anything about the new cabin crew courses at the emirates?... i should join your company on 13. march...and should start with the course. but... things you talk here does not put smile on my face...
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Old 6th Feb 2009, 15:59
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oz, nz, uk

for the fellow "ozzie and british" peep, who only plan to "work" (mean: party and see the world) for 1-2 years with EK:

http://www.pprune.org/cabin-crew-wan...ment-v-29.html

posted by helfsich, post number 562; reply to post by hard2fly, number 557.

"Just a bit of background for you guys - I currently work for EK, originally from Perth, have done so for 3 years(...) Admittedly a lot of people come to Dubai and find that is isn't what they think it is. They come here, party all the time, call sick for a Jeddah, Bombay, Lagos, Shanghai, and wonder why they get called into the office, wonder why their rosters aren't as good as their batchmates, wonder why they haven't been upgraded to Business Class yet. Spend their money at all the malls and nightclubs and wonder why they've been here for a year or two and haven't been able to save anything despite not paying rent or utility bills or taxi cabs to and from work. They're on the phone to their boyfriend/girlfriend 2-3 times a week, who's complaining that they never see them, and yet these same crew never bid for flights because 'I never get what I want anyway'.

This job requires a HUGE lifestyle change. I cannot stress that enough. And whilst many people know that, are told that by friends in the industry or read it here on PPRuNe, many do not know how different this is until they start this job. Not to mention the huge culture shock of moving to an Arabic country, which may look western in those ads on TV or on travel shows, but is still very much clinging onto it's Muslim traditions. For some reason the Aussie crew, despite being one of the most dominant nationalities, tend to have one of the highest turnover rates. Many of them take on this job, use it purely to see different countries, and leave. Then talk about EK as treating them 'like a dog', as hard2fly puts it.(...)"

and so on... wait, i don't want to be offensive to all westerners; i'm not racist though.

just some logic, friends: who the hell goes to work for a so big company without knowing about background (i.e. salary)? on recruitment days the EK-peep don't tell you the salary on NZ dollars? go to emiratesgroupcarreers, or find a lot of infos here on PPRuNe, and then to xe.com and make it yourself, before even going to the interview in your country!
if an ozzie and kiwi and british goes to work for EK without knowing carefully all the infos concerning salary, Company Policy, company and country culture, etc., wft for complaining?
it's the applicant's fault, sorry!

and yes, you can tell i'm not a crew member and not member of the above mentioned countries, i'm from Europe, Central, and i love multi-culture and don't have any problem with different backgrounds - just with ignorance and complaining without reflection on our own faults!

peace!

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Old 6th Feb 2009, 16:20
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San Paulo is definately being cut T.God! bad luck for the South Americans...I wonder will they still be required now? However, we now have Durban which will be like a Bombay...(if you know the profile of Durban passengers....I am sure we are Air India in secret).

I have also heard A380 crew were being put back on main fleet. I also heard from a trainer that several newly arrived batches were sent back home...yes, really.

I so agree the A380 should never have seen the light of day.

Keep Recovering.
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Old 7th Feb 2009, 03:58
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I was half asleep at the time, but I believe somewhere in the Emirates wannabes thread I read something about people having done the medicals already and then being told they've stopped recruiting. That's really gotta be annoying wasting all the money and time, being told to leave your job etc...I wonder if they will keep these people for later, or if they'll have to go through the whole recruitment process again?

EDIT: Just read the wannabes thread again, and yes, it seems a lot of offers have been withdrawn, even after the medicals have been done, and yes, it looks as though they'll have to go through the whole process again. That's horrible. Feel sorry for these people.
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Old 8th Feb 2009, 17:56
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Fdp Cc

Am with you on this one 77W! I too keep getting "fdp cc" (what the bloody hell does that mean?!!) as a reason for rejection on the swap shop. I have also sent an email to the swap team and have received the same computer generated reply that you have got. It is really frustrating! I have received loads of swaps for a flight that I don't want to do but I cannot do anything about it!

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Old 8th Feb 2009, 21:59
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Am with you on this one 77W! I too keep getting "fdp cc" (what the bloody hell does that mean?!!) as a reason for rejection on the swap shop. I have also sent an email to the swap team and have received the same computer generated reply that you have got. It is really frustrating! I have received loads of swaps for a flight that I don't want to do but I cannot do anything about it!
Is it for a flight u called sick for in the last 2 months cuz i did for this particular flight! Maybe...just maybe they are blocking it from getting swapped!!!!
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thanks zerozol 4 pointing this out, i completely agree with you. I used to work with a certain airline and it did treat its staff like dogs, we had to pay 2000 for training, went 2 months without getting any kind of wage and then when we did get paid, it was about a third of what emirates staff get paid. I did my training and then got "dumped" in a country that i had never been to before, and i had to find my own acomodation the same day, pay a deposit and a months rent upfront and move in with very little furniture and no bed sheets because i couldnt afford to buy them. I also got in loads of debt with my bank with unorthorised overdrafts which, a year later, im still paying off.
People who work with emirates should thank god every day they have such a wonderful employer that gives them so much in return, I would do anything to work for them but as everyone knows now, they have stopped recruiting. I hope when they resume recruiting it will show in my interview how much I would appreciate working for such a rewarding airline and how thankful I would be of their employment of me
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Old 10th Feb 2009, 13:00
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There are so many rumours!

Who knows what we should believe, the upgrades are definately on hold, I have recieved the letter and been told I will recieve a new date in the future! No time frame is mentioned but when I spoke to my manager she says it could be anything from 6 months to a year before upgrade courses are reschedueled.

As for recruitement, one of my friends recieved the joining email, submitted all the medicals, was accepted for joining on 6th Feb! Only to recieve an email on the 5th Feb, that the course is on hold and they will hear in April, with regards the next steps to joining.

As for the A380 rumours, who knows what is going on with that aircraft, otherthan it is just draining money from the company.

And with route cancellations, I think we should wait and see what is announced!

Yeah working for EK is frustrating, but I couldnt earn the same amount working in the UK, so Im just gunna sit tight and ride out the storm........
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Grrr ... the sad thing about EK crew...


... is that they always listen to the next person. If you have not been to Durban, South Africa, then please keep your opinions to yourself. Suggesting that the passenger profile is going to be like a ''Bombay flight'' , without having experienced the flight as yet, is really sad. Durban is a beautiful place and the people there are very friendly ... and for your information, the Indian majority, are not from ''Bombay'' or India for that matter, they are South Africans. What I dislike most, is when crew have so many negative things to say about destinations, hotels or even passenger profiles, and when you ask them if they have experienced it for themselves, they simply reply '' Oh, no I havn't been there, but someone I know told me that ..... ''

P.S There are loads of crew from Durban, from all grades, who will be more than happy to take your flights.
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Old 10th Feb 2009, 17:00
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Fdp Cc

I have not called sick fro this particular flight before. I believe fdp stands for flying duty period. Maybe when I try to swap this flight, I or the person that I am swapping with exceeds the amount of hours we are permitted to fly in a month. Just a very wild guess! I wish that there was someone we could contact who could help explain the situation. It is just frustrating! Good luck with your swaps!
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