Emirates - Crew Discussions II
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Duty Free and other matters
Hey guys!
Do not forget to open your Duty Free carts.
As there is a JP CCM staying with a pad and journal and is writing down who opened DF and how much sale has been made. If you did not open ur DF or ( I've heard!) even OPENED but DID not sell anything they will call you from the office to ask you 'what's going on dude'
Now, for some lazy a**es - guys we really have to be happy that we all have jobs. And stop this bull**it arguments about who's country has better unions, unemployment pay etc - wait and see, this crisis is only beginning in the world and one day your ( our) developed countries will have budget deficit that there will be no money left for all. Your country tomorrow can be in deep sh***t, and what will only matter is what kind of person you have developed of yourself. Related to our job , it is not fare for some dudes to go and check call bells and wipe pax a**es while some will just stay and chat in the galley. DO NOT TOLERATE SECOND CLASS BEHAVIOUR from LAZY bitches and dudes.
Lets all be stronger and friendlier to each other.
And apprciate these fantastic moments. If things go better - we will have what to remember and we will have great friends.If things go worse and we will all be fired - at least we will all have each other. When you have lost all your money, what will matter how many people can borrow you money...
So ask yourself a question - for how many people am I the best friend for? And you know your development area.
Lets pray for the best outcome, guys.
Do not forget to open your Duty Free carts.
As there is a JP CCM staying with a pad and journal and is writing down who opened DF and how much sale has been made. If you did not open ur DF or ( I've heard!) even OPENED but DID not sell anything they will call you from the office to ask you 'what's going on dude'
Now, for some lazy a**es - guys we really have to be happy that we all have jobs. And stop this bull**it arguments about who's country has better unions, unemployment pay etc - wait and see, this crisis is only beginning in the world and one day your ( our) developed countries will have budget deficit that there will be no money left for all. Your country tomorrow can be in deep sh***t, and what will only matter is what kind of person you have developed of yourself. Related to our job , it is not fare for some dudes to go and check call bells and wipe pax a**es while some will just stay and chat in the galley. DO NOT TOLERATE SECOND CLASS BEHAVIOUR from LAZY bitches and dudes.
Lets all be stronger and friendlier to each other.
And apprciate these fantastic moments. If things go better - we will have what to remember and we will have great friends.If things go worse and we will all be fired - at least we will all have each other. When you have lost all your money, what will matter how many people can borrow you money...
So ask yourself a question - for how many people am I the best friend for? And you know your development area. Lets pray for the best outcome, guys.
Last edited by European Crew; 26th Feb 2009 at 03:11.
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European crew..the discussion on nationalities was started in a post a week back when someone decided to write in with their opinion that a certain nationality from down south and to the left of N.Z is lazy, demotivated and has a bad attitude compared to other crew who take the job so much more 'seriously'.
All subsequent posts relating to that post have been in defense. Some posts were deleted by the moderator which is odd as given this is an EK crew discussion threaD and the topics are pertinant to our every day work.
However, for u to come across all vigilanti saying that we must refuse to work with lazy ass** crew and not tolerate this and that behaviour I say to you.....Chill-out!!!. Like, come on man, who appointed you as the God of cabin crew? Are you so objective that you can determine who is lazy and what should be tolerated and what should'nt be?If so you would be an SFS and not posting here. Its like after the business briefing your on a self appointed mission to save EK in the face of global recession....No one needs or wants another Grade II MR/MRS supercrew cos they themselves are pains in the a*se...Dude, it's not part of your job discription to judge other crews performance. (Sorry, some nationalities do like to work according to what is actually included in the job description)
THe attitude should be to do your job to the best of your abilty and MYOB unless ur SFS and if there are crew (regardless of nationality) not working as they should e.g staying down back in the galley etc then sooner or later they will be identified by the SFS. Thats what the SFS is for...not you/not other crew. Leave it that.
The only thing I agree with is lets be friendlier with each other but if we are at the point were we need to remind each other of that then thats where the problem is and lazy ass crew are secondary.
European Crew this isn't an attack on you but the attitute where you start to see other crew as lazy or second rate is dangerous and pisses me off. All crew have CCPCM's done on them so along with all the nationality bull s** which is previlant in EK at the moment lets not start he / she /they are lazy crap.
All subsequent posts relating to that post have been in defense. Some posts were deleted by the moderator which is odd as given this is an EK crew discussion threaD and the topics are pertinant to our every day work.
However, for u to come across all vigilanti saying that we must refuse to work with lazy ass** crew and not tolerate this and that behaviour I say to you.....Chill-out!!!. Like, come on man, who appointed you as the God of cabin crew? Are you so objective that you can determine who is lazy and what should be tolerated and what should'nt be?If so you would be an SFS and not posting here. Its like after the business briefing your on a self appointed mission to save EK in the face of global recession....No one needs or wants another Grade II MR/MRS supercrew cos they themselves are pains in the a*se...Dude, it's not part of your job discription to judge other crews performance. (Sorry, some nationalities do like to work according to what is actually included in the job description)
THe attitude should be to do your job to the best of your abilty and MYOB unless ur SFS and if there are crew (regardless of nationality) not working as they should e.g staying down back in the galley etc then sooner or later they will be identified by the SFS. Thats what the SFS is for...not you/not other crew. Leave it that.
The only thing I agree with is lets be friendlier with each other but if we are at the point were we need to remind each other of that then thats where the problem is and lazy ass crew are secondary.European Crew this isn't an attack on you but the attitute where you start to see other crew as lazy or second rate is dangerous and pisses me off. All crew have CCPCM's done on them so along with all the nationality bull s** which is previlant in EK at the moment lets not start he / she /they are lazy crap.
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European crew didn't said: "refuse work with lazy crew!" - but said : do not tolerate lazy ppl. BIG difference.
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European crew didn't mentioned nationalities of cabin crew, only in general - concerning unions and economic issues. far from an offense on different nationalities; please don't restart debate over nationalities, it seems to be over.
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What about team work? i mean, if you see someone of the same rang as you, doing something against policies or not doing things according policies - it's a must in a team environment to speak with her/him. of course, politely and seeking for the solution.
am i wrong?... if i'm wrong, then what are group discussions and psycho-tests monitoring teamwork-ability for?...
off, but a must:
ps.: your attitude of considering some pprune-ers as people from "developing countries" (meaning "don't talk to developed ones") and more precisely "dudes from the slums of Sao Paulo" is quite annoying, and according to your words, "pisses me off". especially if you mention "bordering racism" if someone cites nationalities' stereotypes and experiences of working with them. (?)
if nobody said until this time, i will: i really suppose that there is time to look inside of your soul and re-think your style of approaching different ideas from yours.
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if you have problems with European Crew's opinion, say it point-to-point, with your detailed denials.
European crew didn't said: "refuse work with lazy crew!" - but said : do not tolerate lazy ppl. BIG difference.
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European crew didn't mentioned nationalities of cabin crew, only in general - concerning unions and economic issues. far from an offense on different nationalities; please don't restart debate over nationalities, it seems to be over.
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What about team work? i mean, if you see someone of the same rang as you, doing something against policies or not doing things according policies - it's a must in a team environment to speak with her/him. of course, politely and seeking for the solution.
am i wrong?... if i'm wrong, then what are group discussions and psycho-tests monitoring teamwork-ability for?...
off, but a must:
ps.: your attitude of considering some pprune-ers as people from "developing countries" (meaning "don't talk to developed ones") and more precisely "dudes from the slums of Sao Paulo" is quite annoying, and according to your words, "pisses me off". especially if you mention "bordering racism" if someone cites nationalities' stereotypes and experiences of working with them. (?)
if nobody said until this time, i will: i really suppose that there is time to look inside of your soul and re-think your style of approaching different ideas from yours.
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if you have problems with European Crew's opinion, say it point-to-point, with your detailed denials.
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Focus on your work!
Hey guys....
I have read the posts regarding nationality issues with a sense of incredulity and irritation. To all those who are involved with this petty debate I have one thing to say - STOP! It is pathetic and a sheer waste of time! Focus on your work on board and please keep in mind how lucky you are to have a job during this difficult time. Inspire your colleagues.
I have read the posts regarding nationality issues with a sense of incredulity and irritation. To all those who are involved with this petty debate I have one thing to say - STOP! It is pathetic and a sheer waste of time! Focus on your work on board and please keep in mind how lucky you are to have a job during this difficult time. Inspire your colleagues.
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Guys...GROW UP!!!!! All of us knew that Emirates hires Nationalities from all over the world...so if u have a problem ...no matter which country you hail from...QUIT!!!! Union or No Union...there can be a thousand arguments to present and dfeend each person's case ....but it will never result in a solution. If you have a problem with a fellow crew member ...just try to sit down and talk to them...and if it still doesn't work...then you have seniors onboard who know and can address the issue...so BURY the hatchet and lets focus on something a lil more productive!
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Don't mean to add fuel to fire but i expressed how boring bkkfly's liittle patriotic speech was and just put in a little 
sign to express those opinions. Then, the moderator or someone else deleted it!!!
I think that is really unfair considering that bkkfly actually said " Maybe EK got you out of your slum back in Brasil" which is really insulting!!! and that has been left on the forum.
hmmmm
.........moderator i'll buy you a pint if you dont delete this comment 
sign to express those opinions. Then, the moderator or someone else deleted it!!!I think that is really unfair considering that bkkfly actually said " Maybe EK got you out of your slum back in Brasil" which is really insulting!!! and that has been left on the forum.
hmmmm
.........moderator i'll buy you a pint if you dont delete this comment
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777w,
totally agree with you considering the "sit down with them and talk to them"-philosophy!
that's what i was talking about - that's team work and inspiring team environment.
about what you said about resigning if someone faces a problem: not a good solution. i understand why you said it, but still: searching for a resolution is the first way when facing a problem, not escaping.
and the steps you wrote are really sympathic: first to talk to the person, then, if it doesn't works, talk to someone of higher rang.
janneha,
agree with you. and me too, together with a lot of you all, want to finish this issue.
i deeply believe if, theoretically, someone cries out against mentioning experiences with different nationalities, so this someone doesn't have right to write such insulting things, judging others in their personality!
that's what i think about "growing up" and to be a grown-up, responsible person.
and i'm open to finish the debate over nationalities and slums...
peace out!
totally agree with you considering the "sit down with them and talk to them"-philosophy!
that's what i was talking about - that's team work and inspiring team environment.
about what you said about resigning if someone faces a problem: not a good solution. i understand why you said it, but still: searching for a resolution is the first way when facing a problem, not escaping.
and the steps you wrote are really sympathic: first to talk to the person, then, if it doesn't works, talk to someone of higher rang.
janneha,
agree with you. and me too, together with a lot of you all, want to finish this issue.
i deeply believe if, theoretically, someone cries out against mentioning experiences with different nationalities, so this someone doesn't have right to write such insulting things, judging others in their personality!
that's what i think about "growing up" and to be a grown-up, responsible person.
and i'm open to finish the debate over nationalities and slums...
peace out!
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I think the point of the comment re: slums is that often, people who come from a 'poorer' background are willing to put up with more to stay in a job they like, rather than going home at the first sign of trouble or that they don't like their work. If you're used to being in a country where the working conditions are good, then those people are possibly more likely to go home sooner because they have something better to go back to.
If your family are depending on you or if you don't like conditions where you came from, of course you want to work hard & put up with a few hassles to stay where you are. Don't get it mixed up with having a go at where you are from.
Anyway can we please get back to crew matters?? Have any of you been told you're going to be trained for the A380, or is it still on a voluntary basis? How are things going with the fleet, there were a few maintenance issues over the last few months, is it getting better?
If your family are depending on you or if you don't like conditions where you came from, of course you want to work hard & put up with a few hassles to stay where you are. Don't get it mixed up with having a go at where you are from.
Anyway can we please get back to crew matters?? Have any of you been told you're going to be trained for the A380, or is it still on a voluntary basis? How are things going with the fleet, there were a few maintenance issues over the last few months, is it getting better?
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Little red hat,
agree with you, totally! but the poorer background (even if it's true that these workers/wannabees are poorer than you or me or anybody - who knows?) doesn't mean that somebody can judge them as "slumdogs" - just to be up to date with the movie.
and i like to add to your comment that people coming from developed countries are likely to forget the fact that they are going to work in a different kind of world, and they forget to research and get accurate information about working conditions (i.e. no unions etc.), then start complaining.
but that's another story about relativist or absolutist point of view (no specific background/country for these) - i don't want to start a debate over deep philosophy.
on: as far as i know, new joiners for the trainings beginning in these days are to be trained to next arriving A380's.
z
agree with you, totally! but the poorer background (even if it's true that these workers/wannabees are poorer than you or me or anybody - who knows?) doesn't mean that somebody can judge them as "slumdogs" - just to be up to date with the movie.
and i like to add to your comment that people coming from developed countries are likely to forget the fact that they are going to work in a different kind of world, and they forget to research and get accurate information about working conditions (i.e. no unions etc.), then start complaining.
but that's another story about relativist or absolutist point of view (no specific background/country for these) - i don't want to start a debate over deep philosophy.
on: as far as i know, new joiners for the trainings beginning in these days are to be trained to next arriving A380's.
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Has anyone had NIL duty free sales recently? Any feedback on what u were asked about later pls?
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On crew portal Rumor Buster has just been released, on 10th and 12th some nice questions answered by KEVIN 
CCM also sent a circular recently saying that the option for an unpaid leave is so far NOT considered.
CCM also sent a circular recently saying that the option for an unpaid leave is so far NOT considered.