Jetstar

[Vince1]

Why???

Surfside6 who are you??

Are you in the airline industry?

I feel your comments regarding our workplace are a little rude. I appreciate that everyone is entitled to an opinion, but to keep going on about having no choice, twilight hours, bringing cleaning products...... Helen Keller- please!

For the record I can assure you that your flight to Ballina wont be that bad. Less than an hour!

This is a forum for JQ crew to let off some steam occasionally and have a bit of a laugh.

[Iguanahead]

My goodness what a few days away will throw your way.

jestarFA I actually don't live on cloud nine so I won't be joining you anywhere for a spot of St Johns wort and some tree hugging. I live in a place you may never find. It's a place where people don't give a cr@p how much your sunnies cost or where you bought them. In fact if you told me they were $300 I'd be wondering how you pay your rent and if JQ really is your employer.

In answer to your post yes you do have to be responsible for others inabilities if you are at work, it's your job, and hopefully outside of it as the world would be a better place for it.

I wish you a Merry Xmas and a New Year that brings you all your wishes.

[jetstarFA]

Iguanahead -

As JQ has been around for not even 3 years yet.... I believe that most of us had a life before Jetstar,,,,, Qantas, Ansett, Qantaslink, Gulf, Lauda, Virgin, Emirates.....Pharmacist, Lawyer, Corporate world,,, Some Target, Best and Less , Mcdonalds but we welcome all and are welcomed by all....

Some of us even come from money...... Married well, wise stock choices the list could go on......And I think that maybe 1 or 2 people might own a house and not rent... Or own more than 1 house and receive rent from people in return for housing... If your still renting I can arrange a deal for you thru a few people at JQ

I might suggest you go back to cloud 9 because you appear to be a fool and have an inability to correctly grasp and read posts in a manner befitting a human being.....

VINCE1 was correct - this is a chance for JQ crew to let off steam and have a laugh...... A close knit group that don't appreciate having certain people passing judgement without actually knowing the company, background and great team that work there....

Should you wish to continue attacking I am more than willing for you to PM me...

Merry Xmas to you too

[ShesGreatintheGalley]

JetstarFA: have you married into money.. or are you from money?
are you male? if so i think we would make a beautiful couple!
!!!

[Iguanahead]

jetstarFA you are being defensive. I have'nt attacked you nor have I stooped to calling names. I did read and understand your posts, if nothing else you are very direct about what your opinion is, and I don't believe it leaves anyone guessing. I do have the right to reply when you infer I am a fool that hugs trees and lives on cloud nine. Perhaps you need to reread my posts to understand a little better.

The great thing about this forum is the freedom to have your opinion and be anonymous. I don't know your financial status, it's none of my business, it doesn't matter to me if you own or rent. If it matters to you then I apologise for inferring that you rent. I didn't mean it as a slight against you.

If wanting a world of equality, where people are not belittled for their lack of education, is living on cloud nine, then I guess you are right afterall.

And my wish for your Merry Xmas is genuine.

Back to topic surfside6, JQ is a great product and I hope you are on one of my flights one day. The a/c do get cleaned every night, and if you are on a flight in the morning you'll have a nice clean a/c. As the day progresses things tend to deteriorate, but on the whole if the crew have time they will make it as tidy as they can. If after your flight you're not happy please write to JQ and let them know ( it's the address right at the bottom of your terms and conditions leaflet ). If the pax don't tell them they don't go looking for complaints.

Safe and happy flying everybody.

[jetstarFA]

Iguanahead QUOTE "In fact if you told me they were $300 I'd be wondering how you pay your rent and if JQ really is your employer."

My fault as I would take the above comment as an attack hence I (as all human being) became defensive ????

Rent, buy, lease, wet lease dry lease - at the end of the day we all put our pants on 1 leg at a time.....

Case dismissed

[lowerlobe]

After flying more than a few times on Jetstar I thought it funny when someone else commented that a lot of the people who fly jetstar are the same ones who used to catch the bus or train.

This is not a disparaging comment just an observation.

[jetstarFA]

Lowerlobe I beg to differ,

Most JQ pax have never left the confines of their suburb or even entertained the thought of bus or train travel.....

[Iguanahead]

lowerlobe you are right. JQ has opened up air travel to alot of people who could not afford to fly previously. I did hear somewhere that of all the pax we carried in the last year 10% were first time flyers. That's a bonus for JQ in that there is a market there that they have tapped in to. It does open your eyes as to how much we take for granted in the sky. All the things we think are normal such as turbulence, air suction toilets, confined public areas etc are all foreign to some.

The thing I love is that we have a wide selection of the public demographic, a whole box of assorted licorice if you like, and there is always a story and someone new to meet. Last week I had a family of 4 generations on board together to have a family trip to HTI, complete with great grand nan and eight week old baby. At the end of the day the pax are the reason I still love to fly. I am guaranteed a laugh everyday, I get back double what I put in to it, and there's no better office than one 35000 feet in the air.

[wa.man]

JQ International

Anyone have info on when JQ International will be recruiting again??

[priapism]

Great start for Jetsar Int. As reported in the press flight was cancelled and rescheduled for this morning due to a mechanical . As usual punters were complaining re lack of accurate info given.

What an absolute cock up !! You would think that , being an inaugural flight this aircraft would have been most thoroughly checked well before it went on line - a preflight check prior to the pre flight check so to speak.

To think Q.F mainline is being eroded and replaced with this rubbish. No wonder G.D and M.J were grinning like fat spiders when they arranged the sale of Q.F - rats deserting a sinking ship.

Interesting to hear on the radio last night during the delay a Jetstar spin doctor spruiking the " minor delay due to a mechanical and the expected boarding in an hour " . Poor girl - I guess she drew the short straw. From what I gather from the assembled media covering this momentus event everyone else was ducking for cover.

Not good enough .

I know there are a few of you who will say that you get what you pay for- but a quick look at JQ's website shows that they aren't that cheap when food etc is factored in. Anyway , price shouldn't matter - whatever price it offers it should deliver .

[Vince1]

Priapism, Thank you for your comments regarding JQ international. I am sure some valid points.

However, this thread is used by alot of JQ crew and other staff. Like it has been said before this thread is a chance for us to chat and talk about our day to day issues.

Please don't let off steam here because you are unhappy with Qantas & GD.

Alot of us are also unhappy with many issues involving the Qantas group.


Thanks

[TightSlot]

Agreed - J* comments on this thread please - no more hijacks

[priapism]

No problems . Sorry if I gave the impression that I was a Q.F employee. I am not.
Just no fan of the management style of this once magnificent airline.

Happy New Year to you all.

[blokehostie]

priapism, it appears you have changed your last post, it did refer to J* being run like a bus service. As a J* employee its bad enough putting up with managements crap, but to have someone who is not even an employee of the group passing judgement and criticism on this forum is even worse. I don't jump on a forum and start criticising your workplace. Please don't do it here!!

[TightSlot]

He had the grace to apologise - now why not exercise the same adult judgement and move on?

Pretty Please.

[blokehostie]

Yeah fair point, he did. There is only so much crap you can keep taking from the uninformed before you feel the need to comment.
However, to apologise isn't all that easy so thanks priapism.

Happy New Years

[priapism]

Bloke hostie ,

I spent 20 years as cabin crew operating domestically and internationally.
In fact I was amongst the first 4 male cabin crew employed by Ansett in the era where customer service and innovation was paramount.
Uninformed I am not as I still have many friends still working in various airlines around the world , including your own .

However, time to move on as tightslot says - Happy New Year to you all.

[Vince1]

Written on Qantas Thread

Got to love it! Not written by me!!!!


Progression
Nothing against Jetstar cabin crew, but am I the only one who doesn't see the logic in Jetstar crew progressing to Qantas?
Jetstar is taking over Qantas routes and aircraft, they are growing (some would say at our expense), yet their cabin crew progress to Qantas. I'd rather see the jobs go to people who are desperately trying to get full time work as flight attendants.

[ditzyboy]

Vince1 -

Nothing against Jetstar cabin crew...

Aren't you a long serving Jetstar crew member?

As one of the whole *24* (wow!) cabin crew that have progressed since Career Progression was placed into our EBA five years ago I take great exception to your comment.

We, Impulse, were an airline purchased by Qantas to operate a regional, non-trunk, fleet of jets. Just like every other wholly owned regional we fought hard for and were granted Career Progression. Certainly not a 'right' by any means but it placed us on the same level as all other QF Regional FAs. Give me a reason we should not have had access to this program. Especially given the 717 was the most efficient aircraft in the Qantas fleet (quote Financial Report 2003?).

Jetstar and Qantas chose to start the JQ operation using the existing Impulse/QantasLink award - that includes Career Progression. That was The Big Q's decision. Certainly not that of the crew themselves or the FAAA.

The most junior Impulse/Jetstar FA to get Career Progression had just under four year's service at the time of progression. Until recently this was the usual time it took to progress. With the ever increasing use of 'casuals' (term used loosely - how 'casual' is Contract C?!) Career Progression has slowed dramatically. Therefore WHO IS TAKING POSITIONS FROM WHO? We were certainly part of QF Group long before the vast majority of MAM crew. And even before MAM?

No flight attendant with purely Jetstar service has even come close to progression. Infact only 8 months ago would have been the first time a Jetstar FA was even eligible to join the list!

That last lot of MAM to permanent SH in July '05 contained many crew with far less years of service contributing to the success of QF Group than any Regional/Jetstar(Impulse) FA. I am not suggesting they do not deserve the opportunity to become permenant. But they hadn't even been direct employees of the Group. 32 of them were made permenant and this was matched by 32 Career Progression slots.

I think the whole situation is quite even and fair, given the above. Perhaps it should be accelerated for all concerned. The level of permenant crew is thousands less than it should be. I believe a certain percentage of the current MAM population should be made permanent periodically. And this shoudl be matched by an equal number of Career Progression.

But as long as you have people willing to be 'casual' FAs bound by arduous rosters and very little by way of rights in regards to rostering (pre and post operation) you will find Career Progression and MAM becoming permanent will take a back seat. What incentive does Qantas have when so many people accept these conditions? The conditions they 'put up' with are the same ones that dangle the Career Progression/permanent carrot further and further away.

Ex 'Link crew generally have an excellent reputation out on the line. Some would say their years of (quality) hard work under lesser conditions (particularily Dash 8 crew) somewhat deserves them of a Career Progression slot.

You make it sound like poor old casuals are missing out and Short Haul are being robbed of flying. What about the need for more and more casuals due to Short Haul getting more and more Long Haul flying? Explain the logic there!

Believe me there is VERY few Short Haul crew complaining about the loss of domestic flying. Jetstar has taken very little Short Haul flying as much of it was 'Link for years. OOL, HBA, HTI and MCY for three years and ROK, MKY, LST for many more. The vaste majority of Short Haul flying was lost to Tasmans (traditional Long Haul flying) to Jetconnect and Jumbos going to Perth twice daily from SYD and MEL. That's the equivalent of 11-12 737-800s, daily! Again few complain as it is Long Haul who are unfortunately falling victim to QF's evil game plan.

It would pay for you to gain some knowledge before making such statements. Knowledge is power, Mate. Your statement was as offensive as it was uniformed.