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Old 19th Dec 2006, 09:46
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I think what is trying to be said here is that the aircraft is also our workplace too and people should respect that. We are "at work" despite what some people might say about the Flight Attendant stereotype.
Unfortunatley with low cost carriers these days, they tend to attract this type of clientele....sad but true.
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Old 19th Dec 2006, 11:26
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Maybe time for some of you to contact workplace health and safety in your capital city and express your concerns im sure they would love to hear!!!!!
I can assure you if they get more complaints they will!!!
Do something for yourselves!
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Old 19th Dec 2006, 11:47
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Iguanahead,,,,

You will never hear me complain about pay or conditions.. LOVE MY JOB,,, been doing it for 10 years....I am a flight attendant and shouldn't have to tell a "mother" that she needs to use a change table in the loo..... Do staff at westfields get sick and tired of telling mum to use the change facilities.. I am sure they do...

I deplore the same individuals on a JQ flight , a QF flight , a BA flight, a DJ flight....in Coles, at the movies and in a restaurant.....

If "parents" wish to raise children to be animals that is there concern.....

The Rest of the world shouldn't have to be responsible for others inabilities..and for that, I am better than that individual changing a dirty nappy on a seat exposing crew and fellow travellers to all sorts of infantile disease.......


I'll just pop a ST Johns Wort and join you on cloud nine and I'll hug a tree on the way home
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Old 19th Dec 2006, 21:47
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Originally Posted by surfside6
I am taking my family to Ballina on Jetstar.(no other choice)
JQ, DJ and ZL all operate BNK-SYD. JQ also operate BNK-MEL, a route that didn't even exist until the invention of JQ. If you're travelling to Byron Bay you have Coolangatta not much further north than what Ballina is south - served by JQ, QF and DJ...
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Old 19th Dec 2006, 21:50
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Operator Code

Sorry folks but ....who is ZL?
QF does not fly into OOL with its own a/c..I checked all this when booking the flight.
BNK is closer to my final destination than OOL anyway.
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Old 19th Dec 2006, 21:51
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Our lovely friends at Regional Express
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Old 19th Dec 2006, 22:00
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Surfside ZL is Rex and Qantas still have (and will always have) two flights daily to and from the Gold Coast.

QF830 and QF852.


So yes, you do have a choice. But you're obviously not trying hard enough.
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Old 19th Dec 2006, 22:38
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Geee you are right

Those flights you mentioned leave and arrive in the twilight zone.
Not mid afternoon when I needed to travel....children and sleep times you know.
Having children limits your choice of travel time and hence carrier.
Thats what I meant about choice(and cleanliness)
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 06:31
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Flying Garbage Tip

So because of it feral clientele and no cleaning policy Jetstar is to be known as the flying tip.
Augurs well for the international arm of the group
The Japanese travellers will love it .....NOT!
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 12:12
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Surfside - Wake up early,,, it's a one off..... not a daily commute one would assume.... its not JQ who took over Qantas and decided that JQ would be the QF driver in OOL

email a friend of mine - [email protected] and voice your concerns about the "twilight" flights that Qantas offer - (stale coffee and a bag of peanuts)

QF only fly there as a token gesture, as they do in HBA and as they did is LST.....

www.executiveaviation.com.au can also provide the social elite who couldn't possible be seen disembarking from a JQ flight for fear of ostracism, seeing as we are all judged on social status by a plane seat we only want to pay $50 for but want Krug and canapes.......?

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Old 20th Dec 2006, 14:11
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A brief look at the schedules for QF/JQ/DJ into Cooly will reveal that for all three carriers there are flights that do not depart/arrive in the so called "twlight zone".

Similar for Ballina Byron ... a bit of research shows the same results for DJ/ZL/JQ.
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 15:23
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Sometimes...

Posting on here is like trying to have a conversation with Helen Keller.
I have my flights with JQ at precisely the time I want them and at a reasonable price.
It is not however unreasonable to expect a degree of cleanliness regarding the A/C.
This has absolutely nothing to do with social standing.
Cleanliness is cleanliness wherever you come from.
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 19:45
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Quoting misshostie:" Unfortunatley with low cost carriers these days, they tend to attract this type of clientele..."
A bit of generalisation there,many people who fly LCC's do so because they have to,eg pensioners travelling to see family,attend interstate funerals etc.
I agree that some people need to be taught commom manners etc and even if you are travelling on a cheap fare I believe it is reasonable to expect a clean aircraft.
I have made over 60 domestic flights this year on all carriers including Qantas,V Blue,Jet* and I choose the airline that can get me where I need to be at the time I need to be there,if Jet* can get me there on time at a good price I will fly with them,the same applies to the others.I would not swap my job for that of a F/A but please don't assume all customers (that is what a passenger is ) who fly LCC's are low life ,some are,but you will see them everywhere,try Fountain Gate Shopping Centre on any weekend and you will see them.
Merry Christmas .
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 21:27
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OR,,,,

Pacific Fair on the Gold Coast......a sub species!
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 22:26
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I think we all know that LCC pax are not all lowlifers.....I have seen my fair share of high - profile pax, diaamond wearing pax on JQ BUT

The reality is that people have a superiority complex about anything low cost......

Do you run into work and say "oh I just bought this fabulous top from Best and Less for $6 as it suits my skin tone"... Um no
We run into work "I just spent $300 on a pair of Gucci sunglasses"

When people fly the JQ most say, and trust me I am there most days, that they were surprised and had a great flight...Low expectation because they paid $49 for a flight,,, When thay can have an educated conversation with a flight attendant they are even more surprised..... Pay low prices get a low price Flight attendant, Thats what most people think...

Case and point, we all, myself included, love bragging about our business class flight rather than our middle seat low cost carrier flight.... Hardly xmas lunch conversation...

Lets not bring Helen Keller into it,,, She has enough to deal with
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Old 21st Dec 2006, 00:32
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thankyou JetstarFA - my sentiments exactly.
Although we do on some routes attract a 'cheaper' clientele - generally our passenger 'type' is exactly the same as you would find in a QF Y class cabin.
i have flown all number of politicians, rock stars, so called tv 'celebrities' around.. hell.. we even had princess Mary on a flight.
Generally its the passengers who ASSUME that we provide a nasty, unbearable low cost experience and are suprised at the level of professionalism that they see in the cabin. People comment on this to me almost every day - they expected much much worse.
A quick browse through some of the pilot forums on here you will see what the mainline QF pilots think about flying JQ (putting aside their piloting 'morals' of course) - i think they are the ones that need to experience a flight with us and step off their high horses to say 'it wasnt that bad after all.. we survived quite nicely!' As they are the ones who make out like we are a flying garbage can, with 18 year old giggly FAs who cant arm a door and the airline has no idea whats going on. Those are the things i have picked up from reading through those forums over the years.

We have a laugh about those 'uneducated' and 'nasty' passengers on here purely because we would never dare to in the cabin. its just not done.
Those FAs with BA, QF, AA, everyone would be able to say the same thing.
Every airline has passengers who change babies on seats, tray tables and leaves the nappys everywhere. We had this when we were a full service airline too.. the only difference now is that on some routes its more common.
Yes, we dont get vaccumed every turnaround, and it took me a good 2 years to get over that fact but we also find that generally, unless a messy child has sat in a row, the floor CAN stay clean for four or so sectors.

Flying for Jetstar with all honesty has not been as bad as we were expecting.
I remember before we started up we were drinking in some bar on an overnight with a DJ crew and they were telling us what sort of passengers to expect, the roast BBQ chicken and chips on the tray table kind of thing.. thankfully we assumed the worst and its nice to come to work and have a normal cabin each day, with just a few oddballs thrown in for added value.
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Old 21st Dec 2006, 03:39
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Labia (the funniest name on PPrune by far)

I think you can add a 10 km circumference around Pacific fair and still be on the mark! I heard it's the best shop(lifting) centre on the GOLD Coast.!


Merry Christmas to you all.
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Old 21st Dec 2006, 05:55
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Biggest problem with Pacific fair is all the Victorians - if only you'd all go back home to your little bogan enclaves and stop coming up here and taking our water and clogging our roads, and take that ridiculous game you call football back with you!!

You know you want to - you keep saying how good it is in Melbourne whilst moving up here like the sheep that flow in from across the Tasman - goes for you New south welshy people while we are at it AND I would like to see the original QLD / NSW border reinstated, with back pay!!

Freak orf back home
!!!!

Ha Ha - That feels better

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Old 21st Dec 2006, 09:31
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(Dons an armour plated Bundy T shirt )
Complete with white shoes........

Pass my regards on to Pauline H and the Corbys.
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Old 21st Dec 2006, 23:42
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Will do SBH & white shoes are considered de riguer (?)
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