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I don't think BA can sell club to New York for £800 , most the Passenger's use miles to upgrade and silverjet , Is an Airline which is for people like myself who would love to go to New York for £800 for a weekend break . I paid £650 return hotline tickets for W+ . it's much cheaper and its business class , I say good luck silverjet !!!
PS . I do like the fact you know Laker Airways , I like someone that knows there info .
good conversation , Take care
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They could but they won't 
However there is alot more to the club brand than there is to just doing flights there and back. Like you said it is great for people who do a there and back ie. w/e in nyc.
Not necessarily true, yes some do use miles to upgrade but the club cabin is responsible for the majority of BAs profit
At the end of the day you can't compare the products the airlines offer as they are so vastly different. The best one can do is to appreciate it for what it is.
However there is alot more to the club brand than there is to just doing flights there and back. Like you said it is great for people who do a there and back ie. w/e in nyc.Not necessarily true, yes some do use miles to upgrade but the club cabin is responsible for the majority of BAs profit
At the end of the day you can't compare the products the airlines offer as they are so vastly different. The best one can do is to appreciate it for what it is.
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As an example BA's cheapest LHR-JFK-LHR midweek in Feb is just under Ģ2100 return inc taxes, or Ģ4350 fully flexible....8 flights a day to JFK and another 2-3 to EWR, and they are busy with high yeilding apax....it's the bread and butter route that pays the bills. Off season you may well get an upgrade on miles, but at peak times forget it.....
Max Jet created a new market for themselves & it appears that SilverJet are doing the same - BA/VS/AA traffic to JFK has barely been dented by Max Jet & Eos from STN.....the frequent flyer programmes & corporate accounts will keep most customers with the legacy carriers.
Best of luck to you all in carving out a new market but do watch out for MB, as he will be watching to see where he can put the knife in.
Max Jet created a new market for themselves & it appears that SilverJet are doing the same - BA/VS/AA traffic to JFK has barely been dented by Max Jet & Eos from STN.....the frequent flyer programmes & corporate accounts will keep most customers with the legacy carriers.
Best of luck to you all in carving out a new market but do watch out for MB, as he will be watching to see where he can put the knife in.
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Janauary now, not November, hmm, Now Airlines comes to mind, will it happen? Today on the news was a report on longhaul carriers,Zoom was mentioned, nothing about Silverjet...One just wonders why it wasn´t mentioned as it seems there should be PR people there gagging for publicity.
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Oh...here we go again, we had a few positive comments and someone has to go on again don't they! 
Teachin- it's January because they are doing things properly, we are getting proper training which takes time, the aircraft are being totally gutted and refitted, which takes time and things are going very swimmingly at the moment. Can you not just think that they might be taking their time and not rushing it to ensure that things are done right? Just becuase they weren't mentioned in a news article doesn't mean they are doomed. Zoom is doing low-cost flights, no frills, not full business class, yes we will be doing low cost business class but it's full frills and no corner cutting. Hence the time they are taking to put everything in place properly. They have all the certificates and licenses, they have the funding and they have aircraft. The seats are on sale now and the launch date is set. I believe you had posted on here that you sent your CV, if you're so negative, it makes one wonder why you bothered and I hope I don't ever have to fly with you as I like to have positive crew to work with.
Please give us a break- why can't people just think positively. We are kept very well informed by the company and everything is going to plan. Just becuase the training and launch dates have changed once or twice doesn't mean it's all going to fail. I worked at a children's day nursery many years ago before I flew and we changed our opening date 3 or 4 times due to building and paperwork delays- 5 years on its going strong- give things a chance PLEASE!
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Teachin- it's January because they are doing things properly, we are getting proper training which takes time, the aircraft are being totally gutted and refitted, which takes time and things are going very swimmingly at the moment. Can you not just think that they might be taking their time and not rushing it to ensure that things are done right? Just becuase they weren't mentioned in a news article doesn't mean they are doomed. Zoom is doing low-cost flights, no frills, not full business class, yes we will be doing low cost business class but it's full frills and no corner cutting. Hence the time they are taking to put everything in place properly. They have all the certificates and licenses, they have the funding and they have aircraft. The seats are on sale now and the launch date is set. I believe you had posted on here that you sent your CV, if you're so negative, it makes one wonder why you bothered and I hope I don't ever have to fly with you as I like to have positive crew to work with.
Please give us a break- why can't people just think positively. We are kept very well informed by the company and everything is going to plan. Just becuase the training and launch dates have changed once or twice doesn't mean it's all going to fail. I worked at a children's day nursery many years ago before I flew and we changed our opening date 3 or 4 times due to building and paperwork delays- 5 years on its going strong- give things a chance PLEASE!
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Your got my vote , I think Silverjet has a great concept and the website is great . I'm looking forward to seeing your Aircraft / Uniform's etc ...
Good Luck to the new crew of Silverjet !!!
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BEFORE I say anything I'm not being negative in any way shape or form towards Silverjet.
If all these posts are bothering you so much don't read them. There are alot of people who have been around the block and some, believe it or not, may actually know a little more about certain people and certain events than you do. This is a forum and these people are aloud to air there views regardless whether you like it or not.
You have said yourself the company is keeping you informed and you are blissfully happy. So leave it at that.
I really hope it works out for you.
If all these posts are bothering you so much don't read them. There are alot of people who have been around the block and some, believe it or not, may actually know a little more about certain people and certain events than you do. This is a forum and these people are aloud to air there views regardless whether you like it or not.
You have said yourself the company is keeping you informed and you are blissfully happy. So leave it at that.
I really hope it works out for you.
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I did not deny anyone an opinion I simply expressed that the reasons for the negativity were unjust, just because a training and launch date has moved a couple of times does not spell doom.
If these people are entitled to an opinion then so am I.
I would also say that I look at the forums in the hope there is something nice to read or someone asking something constuctive that I could answer.
I also see that certain people are going onto threads of other new start airlines saying they are doomed to fail to and I think it is unfair to those people who are working or going to work for these companies to have to keep seeing it over and over again. If these people can prove their business expertise as a finiancal or business advisor with copious aviation managerial board level experience then I could understand, but I'm pretty sure it's assumption and on the basis of hearsay and gossip and that I find very difficult to stomach.
Give us a chance, if we do fail, then say 'I told you so' but it looks at the moment to be a possible big success and I wish people could just be constructive.
If there was a glaring problem that suggested trouble then I could understand, but moving the launch date and not being mentioned in a news article, I can not.
If would like to clairfy this further SuperBoy then please PM me.
And once again, I apologise if I have upset anyone with my opinion which is based on current, up to date info from the company itself.
If these people are entitled to an opinion then so am I.
I would also say that I look at the forums in the hope there is something nice to read or someone asking something constuctive that I could answer.
I also see that certain people are going onto threads of other new start airlines saying they are doomed to fail to and I think it is unfair to those people who are working or going to work for these companies to have to keep seeing it over and over again. If these people can prove their business expertise as a finiancal or business advisor with copious aviation managerial board level experience then I could understand, but I'm pretty sure it's assumption and on the basis of hearsay and gossip and that I find very difficult to stomach.
Give us a chance, if we do fail, then say 'I told you so' but it looks at the moment to be a possible big success and I wish people could just be constructive.
If there was a glaring problem that suggested trouble then I could understand, but moving the launch date and not being mentioned in a news article, I can not.
If would like to clairfy this further SuperBoy then please PM me.
And once again, I apologise if I have upset anyone with my opinion which is based on current, up to date info from the company itself.
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You are entitled to your opinion, as are we all.
There is alot of negativity wrt silverjet. Don't let it bother you as you are clearly of the opinion that you have made the right decision for you. As I have said I hope it works out for you.
No clarification needed, thanks.
Ps. We might all eat our words
There is alot of negativity wrt silverjet. Don't let it bother you as you are clearly of the opinion that you have made the right decision for you. As I have said I hope it works out for you.
No clarification needed, thanks.
Ps. We might all eat our words
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Thank you.
The negativity niggles me but what bothers me is I am aware that a lot of people new to flying look at these posts and if they are starting with Silverjet then they may be scared off by everyones assumptions.
You may eat your words, I may eat mine, nobody really knows, its the same with every new business, but thinking positive and being encouraging doesn't hurt.
The negativity niggles me but what bothers me is I am aware that a lot of people new to flying look at these posts and if they are starting with Silverjet then they may be scared off by everyones assumptions.
You may eat your words, I may eat mine, nobody really knows, its the same with every new business, but thinking positive and being encouraging doesn't hurt.
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BecauseCID,
I didnīt come here to argue, just an observation, Now Airlines got so very close and didnīt happen so I am just wary, thatīs all. If you get up and going, I will be pleased for you. I saw a lot of disappointment at Now, lots left jobs and then got lumbered with no job. So I wish you all the success in the world. Luton needs something just like Silverjet, so I am all for it.
Teachin.
I didnīt come here to argue, just an observation, Now Airlines got so very close and didnīt happen so I am just wary, thatīs all. If you get up and going, I will be pleased for you. I saw a lot of disappointment at Now, lots left jobs and then got lumbered with no job. So I wish you all the success in the world. Luton needs something just like Silverjet, so I am all for it.
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Hi peeps,
For those who attended a selection day w/ Silverjet in August, could you please tell us about the working conditions within the company ? How many hours will you guys have a month ? What will the roster look like ? How long will the rest time in NYC be? ( Someone said something like 36 Hours, is it accurate ?) Will you get many standbys ? What salary is offered ( I read on other forums a salary in the vicinity of 2000 Ģ per month? does that sound plausible ?) Any extra benefits at the company's discretion ( like Industry Discounts valid on other airline companies too, Medical Insurance, the possibility to join a pension scheme ???) Will it be possible to commute from continental Europe ?
Sorry if I sound a little bit curious or inquisitive
Thanks for sharing anyway
Peace
For those who attended a selection day w/ Silverjet in August, could you please tell us about the working conditions within the company ? How many hours will you guys have a month ? What will the roster look like ? How long will the rest time in NYC be? ( Someone said something like 36 Hours, is it accurate ?) Will you get many standbys ? What salary is offered ( I read on other forums a salary in the vicinity of 2000 Ģ per month? does that sound plausible ?) Any extra benefits at the company's discretion ( like Industry Discounts valid on other airline companies too, Medical Insurance, the possibility to join a pension scheme ???) Will it be possible to commute from continental Europe ?
Sorry if I sound a little bit curious or inquisitive
Thanks for sharing anyway
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Hi,
Yes more info on pay and conditions would be great please. Would also be useful to hear about the selection process / tests etc.
Oh and I really hope it works out for you guys to.
Thanks.
Yes more info on pay and conditions would be great please. Would also be useful to hear about the selection process / tests etc.
Oh and I really hope it works out for you guys to.
Thanks.
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Hi Everyone
I starrt training with Silverjet on the 27th November!!! I am very excited..... I have very good feeling about this one.
I have been reading many of your posts why are people so negative??? all of my dealings so far with Silverjet have been great they are very proffesional and always there to help with any queries or concerns that i have had.
SILVERJET IS GOING TO BE A GREAT SUCCESS AND ALL I CAN SAY TO YOU MOANERS OUT THERE IS THANK GOD THEY DID NOT EMPLOY YOU BECAUSE IF I HAD TO SPEND 36HRS DOWN ROUTE WITH YOU IT WOULD DRIVE ME STIR CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I starrt training with Silverjet on the 27th November!!! I am very excited..... I have very good feeling about this one.
I have been reading many of your posts why are people so negative??? all of my dealings so far with Silverjet have been great they are very proffesional and always there to help with any queries or concerns that i have had.
SILVERJET IS GOING TO BE A GREAT SUCCESS AND ALL I CAN SAY TO YOU MOANERS OUT THERE IS THANK GOD THEY DID NOT EMPLOY YOU BECAUSE IF I HAD TO SPEND 36HRS DOWN ROUTE WITH YOU IT WOULD DRIVE ME STIR CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi Pebbles,
Could you give us any insight into the selection process i.e what did you have to do?
Remember: There's never a crowd on the leading edge! So don't worry about what anyone else thinks. It might work out or it might not but if you feel good about it that's the main thing.
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Could you give us any insight into the selection process i.e what did you have to do?
Remember: There's never a crowd on the leading edge! So don't worry about what anyone else thinks. It might work out or it might not but if you feel good about it that's the main thing.
D
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Just a little information...
Afternoon Ladies & Jellyspoons...
I'm starting training as of Nov 27th, to answer a couple of your queries...
Selection day: Pretty much run of the mill morning, a presentation on the company, what the uniform will be like etc etc... (all black, contrsting black & silver striped shirts/blouses) and tailored suits was what we originally told, no ties/scarves etc as we're are aiming for the relaxed business man approach...
Followed by a group session... prioritising things in order of importance etc etc...
Then sent for a break while they make their decision...
If your successful then you have a 2 to 1 interview, which they tailor around you and what job specs you are looking for... I thankfully have been employed as a service coordinator due to previous experience so I'm well chuffed...
Salary ranges from 10.5k main crew up to 19k line trainer, with approx 10-12k flight pay per annum, (trps are around 50 hrs a time, 2.30 p/h flight pay n about 7-8 returns a month)
Reward scheme based on service excellence, and i think its approx 5% contributory pension by the company.
Don't quote me verbatim on any of these... just a little heads up!
Hope you find it useful
I'm starting training as of Nov 27th, to answer a couple of your queries...
Selection day: Pretty much run of the mill morning, a presentation on the company, what the uniform will be like etc etc... (all black, contrsting black & silver striped shirts/blouses) and tailored suits was what we originally told, no ties/scarves etc as we're are aiming for the relaxed business man approach...
Followed by a group session... prioritising things in order of importance etc etc...
Then sent for a break while they make their decision...
If your successful then you have a 2 to 1 interview, which they tailor around you and what job specs you are looking for... I thankfully have been employed as a service coordinator due to previous experience so I'm well chuffed...
Salary ranges from 10.5k main crew up to 19k line trainer, with approx 10-12k flight pay per annum, (trps are around 50 hrs a time, 2.30 p/h flight pay n about 7-8 returns a month)
Reward scheme based on service excellence, and i think its approx 5% contributory pension by the company.
Don't quote me verbatim on any of these... just a little heads up!
Hope you find it useful
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Not quite sure!!!
your guess is probably as good as mine at the moment... In the interview it was described as the galley operator as such... as it's an all business class service you will have a co-ordinator in each galley... As meals are on demand, pre-ordered entertainment and menu etc I believe it's the coords responsibility to ensure the pax receive what they want, when they want it... presume you will be responsible for 50 pax each and the silvercrew will deliver what you have prepared for them (plated up meals, warm bread rolls, 4 course dinners and the works, you know how it is!)
I'm just guestimating here, but thats the gist i got!
I'm just guestimating here, but thats the gist i got!
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I had an e mail today offering me an interview on 20 November.
Has anyone else heard anything??
It has all gone very quiet around here re Silverjet. Have the first intake started their training yet, I wonder? The first flight is to operate on 25 Jan I believe, so presumably training must be underway (or soon about to be).
Has anyone else heard anything??
It has all gone very quiet around here re Silverjet. Have the first intake started their training yet, I wonder? The first flight is to operate on 25 Jan I believe, so presumably training must be underway (or soon about to be).