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everyone says to be backed by a union because there could be a strike, (well thats what the Bassa rep told us in our new entrant course)! just to be on the safe side i think i should join one! 
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Spot on SJ.
Should it come down to a strike, the company will bank on a lot of crew not belonging to the union (and so not being able to strike).
For example.
Unions decide to strike over the breakfast allowance.
Out of 1500 crew only 300 belong to the union.
So....300 crew on strike. BA and the operation struggles on because BA offers overtime, cancels P/T, leave etc etc etc and gets through the strike without cancelling too many services (short haul only as BA will protect LH at all costs).
Result.
BA take away the breakfast allowance anyway realising the crew and unions can't do anything about it anyway becasue they are so weak.
You think LHR will walk out over our breakfast?
Think again.
Join the union guys. Or loose your breakfast.
Should it come down to a strike, the company will bank on a lot of crew not belonging to the union (and so not being able to strike).
For example.
Unions decide to strike over the breakfast allowance.
Out of 1500 crew only 300 belong to the union.
So....300 crew on strike. BA and the operation struggles on because BA offers overtime, cancels P/T, leave etc etc etc and gets through the strike without cancelling too many services (short haul only as BA will protect LH at all costs).
Result.
BA take away the breakfast allowance anyway realising the crew and unions can't do anything about it anyway becasue they are so weak.
You think LHR will walk out over our breakfast?
Think again.
Join the union guys. Or loose your breakfast.
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I think those of us at LGW need to ask ourselves a question or two, can we really expect the support of our Unions we do lose our b/f allowance?
I think I would have a better chance of winning this Fridays £120m EuroMillions jackpot than there being a strike over this a LGW. If there was serious talk of strike do we really think for one second think that LHR will be walking out with us? Could we pull off a strike without their support on the matter?
I think its safe to say that we have well and truly been run ragged by the company over the past few years and have never really had a say in any of it. How many times has our Unions consulted us 'members' on any of the changes we have endured?
Anyway, I think if there is talk about striking anytime soon it won't be over our b/f, it will be to do with this pension fiasco.
Don't believe everything you get told on your initial training! I still think they are not worth the money! Meow!
I think I would have a better chance of winning this Fridays £120m EuroMillions jackpot than there being a strike over this a LGW. If there was serious talk of strike do we really think for one second think that LHR will be walking out with us? Could we pull off a strike without their support on the matter?
I think its safe to say that we have well and truly been run ragged by the company over the past few years and have never really had a say in any of it. How many times has our Unions consulted us 'members' on any of the changes we have endured?
Anyway, I think if there is talk about striking anytime soon it won't be over our b/f, it will be to do with this pension fiasco.
Don't believe everything you get told on your initial training! I still think they are not worth the money! Meow!
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flying fairy, well i took passport and passport picture, i think that was it regarding getting your pass! i just finished my training 4th nov, do you start your 5wks tomorrow?
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However I remember a few bits:
-P45: if you bring it the first day the company will send it to pay&people services for you otherwise after that it will be your responsibility.
-BA resources passport which should have been sent to you already. You'll need that to collect your temp ID from the BA ID issuing gate.
-2 passport-sized pictures of yourself with your name written on the back
-Your passport
-1st steps to excellence - I do not know if this is one of the things, however the FSTE exam is usually on day 2 or 3 of the course and many people seem to fail it, so it would be a good idea to bring it if you have any doubts or questions for your trainers.
-any other paperwork that needs to be handed to your trainers. I am not familiar with the paperwork new entrants receive, so if in doubt just bring it along. Maybe WLITS knows more than me...?!
Again I would like to stress that any delay at any time during the course will result in behavioural points being accrued, even one minute late will count, so make sure you leave enough time, especially on day one when the queue at the ID unit can be quite long. Mobile phones have also been ringing during some sessions resulting in further points being earned. (The trainers will explain to you the points process on day one)
The dress attire is smart unless otherwise advised for some AVMed/SEP days, I have seen some new entrants arriving on day one in jeans
....well, let's just say it was quite embarassing for them, bless!I really hope you'll have a great time on your course, I still remember it as one of the most exciting and fun times of my career, yes it can be hard at times - SEP in particular and it needs quite a lot of practising on your own - however you'll see your trainers are there for you anytime if you need any help they'll be more than happy to assist you!
Have fun and do not forget to bring your camera!!! Experience tells me there'll be LOTS to photograph
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I think those of us at LGW need to ask ourselves a question or two, can we really expect the support of our Unions we do lose our b/f allowance?
Anyway, I think if there is talk about striking anytime soon it won't be over our b/f, it will be to do with this pension fiasco.
Don't believe everything you get told on your initial training! I still think they are not worth the money! Meow!
Anyway, I think if there is talk about striking anytime soon it won't be over our b/f, it will be to do with this pension fiasco.
Don't believe everything you get told on your initial training! I still think they are not worth the money! Meow!
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Me?...Management? Don't mean to be rude but I'm far from that. My point is that at the end of the day it don't realy matter how passonate we crew/ambassadors of the company are. If we don't have the support of our Unions (which includes crew at LHR) then we ain't got a leg to stand on when it comes to striking.
(NB legal/illegal), we can't be legal if we ain't got the support. x
For the record I would also strike over this, so I'm with you tofster but I urge you to approach your rep about this matter as I have done, result - I ain't gonna waste too much money on this Fridays Lotto
I stand by my previous comments about the Unions usefullness, but, if I have to recommend one I will say CC89 as they are cheaper and are a lot more "approachable" x
(NB legal/illegal), we can't be legal if we ain't got the support. x
For the record I would also strike over this, so I'm with you tofster but I urge you to approach your rep about this matter as I have done, result - I ain't gonna waste too much money on this Fridays Lotto
I stand by my previous comments about the Unions usefullness, but, if I have to recommend one I will say CC89 as they are cheaper and are a lot more "approachable" x
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Well I'd love to say we will be triumphant on the breakfast issue but I'm sure we won't be.
I recently flew with a union rep and he seems to think that the meal allowances are going but BA will increase our hourly duty pay by a few pence an hour which should equate to approx GBP11 on a 3 day trip. Yeah
I belong to the union but am sorry to say that I do not have alot of faith in them. Look at the way BA implemented the eg300 and changes to the procedures. Cutting back on SH crew. Cutting back on LH crew, Pensions I mean the list does go on and on. What have the unions done? There in 'talks' with BA.
I really really hope I'm proven wrong but until then...
I recently flew with a union rep and he seems to think that the meal allowances are going but BA will increase our hourly duty pay by a few pence an hour which should equate to approx GBP11 on a 3 day trip. Yeah
I belong to the union but am sorry to say that I do not have alot of faith in them. Look at the way BA implemented the eg300 and changes to the procedures. Cutting back on SH crew. Cutting back on LH crew, Pensions I mean the list does go on and on. What have the unions done? There in 'talks' with BA.
I really really hope I'm proven wrong but until then...
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Sorry for changing the subject a little, have you guys seen this http://www.newclubworld.com/ what do you think?
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New Club World
BA Staff:
Access BA Intranet, check out News section, (click on News - top left of screen) then 'New Club World unveiled'.
The link at the bottom of the page titled 'view images of the new Club World' is quite cool, gives you loads of images of the cabin.
Also, visit 'Talking Point' it allows you to leave comments, some of which cracked me up, quote:
"Great! That's that one out of the way, now, let's buy a load of sexy
new planes to put it in... I'll look at that ugly pension thing tomorrow"...
And my personal favourite:
"My mum had a Tupperware box not dissimilar to this".
I love BA People!
Access BA Intranet, check out News section, (click on News - top left of screen) then 'New Club World unveiled'.
The link at the bottom of the page titled 'view images of the new Club World' is quite cool, gives you loads of images of the cabin.
Also, visit 'Talking Point' it allows you to leave comments, some of which cracked me up, quote:
"Great! That's that one out of the way, now, let's buy a load of sexy
new planes to put it in... I'll look at that ugly pension thing tomorrow"...
And my personal favourite:
"My mum had a Tupperware box not dissimilar to this".
I love BA People!
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hello flying_phil
I'd suggest you ask the question on the LHR specific thread. To be honest I do not have a clue on what is installed on the LH 767s, I am sure that the short haul 767s do not have any individual screens but the LH might have, I do not fly on it and when I go on holiday I avoid taking the flight operated by the 767s.........nothing wrong with it, I just hate the plane, long story that comes from years of working on it for another company.
So unless someone here knows exactly the answer to your question the best thing would be to ask the colleagues at EF or WW LHR. The LHR specific thread might be on the next page as it tends to be a bit quieter than this one.
Good luck with applying for the job!!
Ciao
FBW
I'd suggest you ask the question on the LHR specific thread. To be honest I do not have a clue on what is installed on the LH 767s, I am sure that the short haul 767s do not have any individual screens but the LH might have, I do not fly on it and when I go on holiday I avoid taking the flight operated by the 767s.........nothing wrong with it, I just hate the plane, long story that comes from years of working on it for another company.
So unless someone here knows exactly the answer to your question the best thing would be to ask the colleagues at EF or WW LHR. The LHR specific thread might be on the next page as it tends to be a bit quieter than this one.
Good luck with applying for the job!!
Ciao
FBW
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They always mess it up! When it happened to the pilots in July/August Balpa made a huge fuss about it as roster publishing is part of the agreement, but because it's cabin crew stuff they probably won't even give you an update on what's going on. There have been cases when rosters were late - or very late - and nobody said a word, not a crewlink message, nothing.......
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Flybywire,
I decided to take matters into my own hands and instead of speculating about it I decided to ask.
Just phoned scheduling and the rosters should be out tomorrow, 17th November, but we might be able to see it agter 9pm tonight.
I decided to take matters into my own hands and instead of speculating about it I decided to ask.
Just phoned scheduling and the rosters should be out tomorrow, 17th November, but we might be able to see it agter 9pm tonight.
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That is ridiculous......... They always mess it up! When it happened to the pilots in July/August Balpa made a huge fuss about it as roster publishing is part of the agreement, but because it's cabin crew stuff they probably won't even give you an update on what's going on. There have been cases when rosters were late - or very late - and nobody said a word, not a crewlink message, nothing.......
They always mess it up! When it happened to the pilots in July/August Balpa made a huge fuss about it as roster publishing is part of the agreement, but because it's cabin crew stuff they probably won't even give you an update on what's going on. There have been cases when rosters were late - or very late - and nobody said a word, not a crewlink message, nothing.......had you just finished a flight Lol...
Sounds like me till i have my first vodka ,
Take Care and I hope you get a nice Christmas roster
I'm still Laughing and not at you, but it's does get one down ..Fingers crossed hey !
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