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Old 8th Sep 2006, 04:27
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Twiggs…Twiggs…Twiggs….I thought we had changed the subject and now you bring back the insults..Are you trying to get this thread closed down as well…..oh well some people never learn.

If you read my example of an faaa response and then read Steve's ....sorry Guardians response you will see I was right on the money..

We are fantastic ...We know what we are doing

If you don't agree with us you must be silly and ill informed..

Actually if you saw an interview with our illustrious Prime Mincer you would have seen where he does not see the need for a referendum on Water recycling.This is interesting if you remember that is almost the same sentiments that Guardian expressed when asked about whether a vote was necessary.Maybe our PM is going to the same school of thought as the faaa...

We know what we are doing

We don't need to ask what you think

You voted for me and I can do what ever I want
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No Lobe, just highlighting your many insults, and I will continue to do so until you stop.

Anyway, back to the NRT incident, the CSS must have had the item in their bag.
I doubt anyone would put a biscuit or chocolate or whatever it was in their pocket.
Hence, there would be little they could do, besides use the old one, "I didn't put it there and my bag has been out of my sight and unlocked for the last 10 hours".
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twiggs do you really think it was about a chocolate biscuit or even a bottle of water I don't think so!
I have been searched and I had a bottle of water with a receipt of course and they never even bothered to ask me, all they were after was booze.
Anyway choco biscuits are on our tray and we are allowed to remove any item that is on our tray, plus with all the food that crew carry there is no way they can do anything about that.
the item must have had QF stamped all over it.
The amount of salads and other misc items (quarantine permitting) in their bags is incredible.
Guardian et AL have been very quiet on this one, how about some information boys/
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Old 8th Sep 2006, 05:24
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Vr- Faaa Newsletter

8th September 2006
ID51-06

Attention all Qantas Long Haul Flight Attendants

REDUNDANCY DETAILS

This afternoon the FAAA was briefed by the Company about Long Haul redundancy.

The Company has decided that ALL applicants for the voluntary redundancy (VR) will be released. The Company will release a statement this afternoon and on Monday it will send letters to the home address of all cabin crew affected.

The letters to crew will contain the release date for each cabin crew member, but essentially for most crew their last day within Qantas will be October 1. Crew with carry over trips into the new roster will be released by 8 October.

Many of you who are leaving have been cabin crew for all of your working lives and you have greatly contributed to the success of Qantas as one of the great Airlines of the world.

Your solidarity and support for each other is demonstrated by your membership of the FAAA. That solidarity has resulted in all of us having enviable conditions of employment. Your contribution and legacy is acknowledged by all of us who remain.

On behalf of the FAAA, the entire membership, the elected officials and the staff of the FAAA, I wish you the very best for your future endeavours.

I also take the opportunity to advise those of you leaving that you need to advise the FAAA in writing that you will be ceasing membership, in order that union deductions can cease. I also wish to advise that associate membership of the FAAA can be maintained by contacting the Office.


Written and authorised by Michael Mijatov – Secretary International Division.












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Old 8th Sep 2006, 05:43
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How Many?????

would our faaa reps here enlighten us as to how many crews are taking VR?
thanks
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Originally Posted by cartexchange
twiggs do you really think it was about a chocolate biscuit or even a bottle of water I don't think so!
I have been searched and I had a bottle of water with a receipt of course and they never even bothered to ask me, all they were after was booze.
Anyway choco biscuits are on our tray and we are allowed to remove any item that is on our tray, plus with all the food that crew carry there is no way they can do anything about that.
Cartexchange,
there was no mention of booze being the cause of the CSS being stood down.
I have never found a sweet biscuit on any of my crew trays, I only ever get a dry cracker.
These days we are rarely getting chocolates with our snacks.
I suggest you read the carriage of consumable items policy again as the company have been highlighting lately.
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i never said that he had booze!

I simply stated that when we were searched that is what they are after.
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I think it is time to stop jumping to conclusions regarding the crew member in NRT.In our society and with our legal system you are innocent until you have been proven guilty and as we have seen with both Nick and the unicef incidents things may not be what they seem.

A series of quotes from TWIGGS

“A CSS was found with a biscuit from the aircraft.”

“the CSS must have had the item in their bag.”

“These days we are rarely getting chocolates with our snacks”

It would appear that our resident judge ,jury and exectutioner TWIGGS has already pronounced the crew member concerned guilty with these lines.

TWIGGS on the contrary,most crew snacks have a chocolate bar except for some like Singapore which is usually a muesli bar or similar.

As I said let’s give the crew member a break and benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

As far as VR is concerned I wish all those taking it the best of luck for the future

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Old 8th Sep 2006, 08:51
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Given that it now seems QF will let all those who have applied for VR go it will be interesting to see what happens with promotion.

Rumours suggest that 60 odd CSMs had finally had a gutfull and wanted out.

The average years of service for these crew must have been in excess of 20 years each.

20 X 60 =1200 years worth of experience walking out the door.

To be replaced with ............. AKL based FAs?
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BOM

S/H bid packages out - Bombay on the way When will the book be closed on Regional flying, thet are still making up as they see fit! Coulld be worsr it could be CBR overnight. Maybe we'll just BOM returns?
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Angel ....."thank you ball boys, thank you linesmen !!"

Originally Posted by Guardian1
The "conflict of conscience" phrase used by www is very familiar. It was used by the FAAA to refer to those union members who scabbed in february 2003 during the stop work meeting.
Wed webbing loop by using this phrase has identified who he is. He is an ex line manager who worked during the stop work meeting in 2003. No wonder he so detests the FAAA.
CAUGHT OUT BIG TIME !
..........and so it came to pass, that,.... Guardian has "outed" me.

You're way to smart for me.

To think that I gave you the "key phrase" -then you searched for the answer.....just like in COLD CASE.

Guardian, my only wish now is ......could you arrange that my payout figures are changed to reflect the years I spent as a "law abiding Line Manager".
There must be a difference of at least $30K!!!

Muchas Grassi-arse.

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Old 8th Sep 2006, 23:45
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years of service

speedy, you might find the average years of service of the 60 retiring csm's is averaged at 30 years (if not more,the top 80 in the senority list have 30+service). so thats 1800 years of service/experience walking out with little thank you
well done to all retiries and lets catch up at the review

and to our domestic collegues get ready for beijing in november

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Old 9th Sep 2006, 01:15
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Shorthaul Ain`t Shorthaul No More

I can see a day in the not too distant future when LH has three destinations...LAX LHR JNB and thats it.Jet* and regional will have the rest....ahhhh 2 years to go
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Old 9th Sep 2006, 10:43
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You QF Longhaulers keep refering to shorthaul as "domestic" etc... Does it hurt you to say Shorthaul or something?

Just like the FA who called me a "purser" and not a CSM when i told her what area i was from when she asked me whilst on one of her flights.

Grow up.
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Since you brought it up........

You lot have always been domestic and as far as I am concerned always will be.


It explains why your union is called, "domestic".

http://www.faaadomestic.org.au/domestic.htm

Oh BTW, the same applies for "purser".

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Interesting that at the last group Qantas union meeting at QCC the domestic FAAA were nowhere to be seen despite the fact that just about ALL other QF unions made representations...............
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Old 9th Sep 2006, 11:02
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I think your overreacting a bit, both words are interchangeable really.
Should we call the terminal you operate from the shorthaul terminal instead of the domestic terminal?
You seem a little put out that people call you a purser?
It wasn't long ago that purser was your title.
What's the big deal, over here we still use FSD instead of CSM and no-one minds.
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Old 9th Sep 2006, 12:00
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twiggs what language was you post in? it simply does not make any sense!
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I don't know where you are Twiggs but I have not been referred to as a FSD for some time.Maybe he/she is older than I am and likes to remember the good old days.

On another subject,I wonder how many crew actually applied for VR and have any of them taken the money and gone up to the UK base.They apparently need crew...any information anyone
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Old 10th Sep 2006, 00:59
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60 csm's leaving?

if that many go by 8th october when/how are they going to replace them?
how long does it take to train up a replacement csm?
are they training already or do the kiwis require less time in training school?
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Old 10th Sep 2006, 01:23
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domestic

qf trained 36+ domestic/shorthaul csm's. that' s why lh looses bombay, beijing, trans tasman etc. what happen to the regional flying agreement?
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