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.........was also thinking that no matter what airline you are with there is always going to be something that upsets you with the conditions. Even Qantas Mainline FA's still find something to be unhappy about 
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Originally Posted by Leane7
but thats how the industry is going I guess.
Welcome to little johnnies brave new world.
First world profits generated by offering nothing above third world pay and conditions.
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how many FAs
How many Fas are jetstar looking for to be employed in Sydney. I saw an ad in the Sydney Morning Herald on saturday 8 JuLy. Is 40 being a guy too old. It has always been a dream of mine. Any info would appreciate
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Petri, I don't think that 40 is too old to apply or work as CC. I saw quite a few 'older' people at my assesssment day recently [who had school age children, teenagers etc] and even a fair lot of candidates approaching 30 and wanting a completely different career. If you're passionate and willing to do the job, age is a little factor, especially these days.
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howard and dixon's brave new world order
The following is from todays SMH-
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Even without the Jetstar job, it's a loser-pay system
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Scott Rochfort
July 14, 2006
THE no-frills Qantas subsidiary Jetstar has mastered the art of cost-cutting to the point that it is charging would-be international flight attendants $89 for a job interview. And that does not cover the cost of the medical that follows if the interview is a success.
Four months before the launch of Jetstar International services to Asia, the airline has also refused to rule out becoming the first Qantas subsidiary to embrace the Howard Government's new industrial relations laws.
A Jetstar spokesman, Simon Westaway, said the airline had already received 1000 "expressions of interest" for the 240 long-haul crew jobs being offered.
Although the jobs were advertised last weekend, Mr Westaway said Jetstar was yet to decide what work agreements the crews would be on.
While Jetstar's domestic arm is negotiating a collective agreement with its 550 crew, there are suspicions the airline could bypass unions and draft its own Australian workplace agreements for its long-haul crews.
Unions fear those crews could earn 40 per cent less than their Qantas counterparts. Jetstar has also confirmed it will hire crews from the Asian nations it will fly to. The airline's Asian destinations include Bali, Ho Chi Minh City, Phuket, Bangkok and Osaka.
"As an international airline we will need to have a [number] of crew based in Australian and overseas ports," Mr Westaway said. "It will be very Aussie in terms of its personnel."
As for the $40 fee for a personality test and $49 for a security check - paid by applicants who get accepted for an interview - Mr Westaway said the charge applied to all Qantas Group cabin crew jobs.
"It's a cost-recovery process for Jetstar. We're making nothing on this," he said.
Jetstar also requires cabin crew to cover the cost of a medical, tooth and chest x-ray, along with a chickenpox and hepatitis inoculation if they score a job - an outlay of several hundred dollars.
But Mr Westaway said there was nothing untoward in the process. "Pilots can pay tens of thousands of dollars for individual training before they join an airline," he said.
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Are you sure you really want to work for these lowlife?
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Even without the Jetstar job, it's a loser-pay system
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Scott Rochfort
July 14, 2006
THE no-frills Qantas subsidiary Jetstar has mastered the art of cost-cutting to the point that it is charging would-be international flight attendants $89 for a job interview. And that does not cover the cost of the medical that follows if the interview is a success.
Four months before the launch of Jetstar International services to Asia, the airline has also refused to rule out becoming the first Qantas subsidiary to embrace the Howard Government's new industrial relations laws.
A Jetstar spokesman, Simon Westaway, said the airline had already received 1000 "expressions of interest" for the 240 long-haul crew jobs being offered.
Although the jobs were advertised last weekend, Mr Westaway said Jetstar was yet to decide what work agreements the crews would be on.
While Jetstar's domestic arm is negotiating a collective agreement with its 550 crew, there are suspicions the airline could bypass unions and draft its own Australian workplace agreements for its long-haul crews.
Unions fear those crews could earn 40 per cent less than their Qantas counterparts. Jetstar has also confirmed it will hire crews from the Asian nations it will fly to. The airline's Asian destinations include Bali, Ho Chi Minh City, Phuket, Bangkok and Osaka.
"As an international airline we will need to have a [number] of crew based in Australian and overseas ports," Mr Westaway said. "It will be very Aussie in terms of its personnel."
As for the $40 fee for a personality test and $49 for a security check - paid by applicants who get accepted for an interview - Mr Westaway said the charge applied to all Qantas Group cabin crew jobs.
"It's a cost-recovery process for Jetstar. We're making nothing on this," he said.
Jetstar also requires cabin crew to cover the cost of a medical, tooth and chest x-ray, along with a chickenpox and hepatitis inoculation if they score a job - an outlay of several hundred dollars.
But Mr Westaway said there was nothing untoward in the process. "Pilots can pay tens of thousands of dollars for individual training before they join an airline," he said.
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Are you sure you really want to work for these lowlife?
Sorry guys, couldn't resist but that's the first acknowledgement I've seen from anyone in "the QANTAS Group" about how much it costs pilots to get their qualifications.
Cost me about 60k to get the necessary qualifications to join QANTAS plus 5 years working in s%^tholes in NT and WA grossing about 15k.
Then QF charge $150 for the psych testing as well!!
Admittedly, I'm reaping the rewards now but for how much longer?
If pilots are successful in their application to Jet* but are not currently endorsed on the A320/330 they then have to pay about 30k for their endorsement as well. You may like to note that Jet* International cruise First Officers (equivalent of Second Offiicers in QF) who've just forked out their 30k endorsement costs, are expected to be on about 50k per annum. I don't know what the Cabin Crew salaries are likely to be but it ain't gonna be pretty!
Thread hijack over!
Cost me about 60k to get the necessary qualifications to join QANTAS plus 5 years working in s%^tholes in NT and WA grossing about 15k.
Then QF charge $150 for the psych testing as well!!
Admittedly, I'm reaping the rewards now but for how much longer?
If pilots are successful in their application to Jet* but are not currently endorsed on the A320/330 they then have to pay about 30k for their endorsement as well. You may like to note that Jet* International cruise First Officers (equivalent of Second Offiicers in QF) who've just forked out their 30k endorsement costs, are expected to be on about 50k per annum. I don't know what the Cabin Crew salaries are likely to be but it ain't gonna be pretty!
Thread hijack over!
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Interesting that the journalists assume those costs are only for those who actually "score the job" - there are a number of people (namely myself!!) who have to go through the entire process, wait several months, pay the money for medicals, injections and security checks etc, then get the "bad luck" email.
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It could be scary if JQ are talking about recruiting in Asian countries. Speaking from experience, if JQ leave their recruitment up to the asian companies and not have any involvment in who they recruit, the asian countries will basically just "look after their own". I attended Virgin Atlantic registration/interviews in HK and was the only westerner there out of hundreds applying, I have a heap of experience as a FA, and speak some Cantonese (not fluent yet) and hold appropritate visas to allow me to carry out any job role I choose. So thought I would have a shot of atleast an interview...right...wrong.
I was actually pulled out of the line up I was standing in for registration (as I seemed to be the only one presentable there i.e. other applicants were in cut off jeans, like they had been to the beach) and asked only if I had over 3 years customer service experience, which I said I did and was given an interview time on the spot!I was extreemly relieved and impressed because it seemed I was chosen for the interview on accout of my experience. As it should be.
I returned hours later for my interview, and upon entering the interview room was stopped and told I could not be interviewed because I wasnt 'fluent' in cantonese. I was shocked! I had returned with other selected applicants for an interview (and again was the only westerner there) then turned away, because with all my previoue experience and conversational cantonese I still wasnt appropriate for an interview...after someone else had said I was fine hours before...and this is with a British airline!
Long story short I followed it up with HR in HK, because it just seemed to me that I was mistreated and discriminated against. All they kept saying to me was that I "did not fit the HK requirement" and "the chinese FA's are there for the chinese Passengers only"...... I'll leave it to your own interpretation, but I know what it spelt out to me with a big fat 'R' in the beginning of the word.
Its crazy because here in Aus we are such a multi-cultural country and every 2nd employee in the aviation industry here is of one background or another. In HK you would never find a westerner at a check-in desk to save your life
So this is why I am saying I pray that if JQ recruit overseas they keep their finger on the pulse to keep a say in the people they are recruiting, giving everyone a fair and equal shot.
I was actually pulled out of the line up I was standing in for registration (as I seemed to be the only one presentable there i.e. other applicants were in cut off jeans, like they had been to the beach) and asked only if I had over 3 years customer service experience, which I said I did and was given an interview time on the spot!I was extreemly relieved and impressed because it seemed I was chosen for the interview on accout of my experience. As it should be.
I returned hours later for my interview, and upon entering the interview room was stopped and told I could not be interviewed because I wasnt 'fluent' in cantonese. I was shocked! I had returned with other selected applicants for an interview (and again was the only westerner there) then turned away, because with all my previoue experience and conversational cantonese I still wasnt appropriate for an interview...after someone else had said I was fine hours before...and this is with a British airline!
Long story short I followed it up with HR in HK, because it just seemed to me that I was mistreated and discriminated against. All they kept saying to me was that I "did not fit the HK requirement" and "the chinese FA's are there for the chinese Passengers only"...... I'll leave it to your own interpretation, but I know what it spelt out to me with a big fat 'R' in the beginning of the word.
Its crazy because here in Aus we are such a multi-cultural country and every 2nd employee in the aviation industry here is of one background or another. In HK you would never find a westerner at a check-in desk to save your life
So this is why I am saying I pray that if JQ recruit overseas they keep their finger on the pulse to keep a say in the people they are recruiting, giving everyone a fair and equal shot.
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Someone earlier asked if Howard and Dixon are best friends. Well before the last election the Business Council of Aust (or whatever it is called) which has Dixon as the head, came out and endorsed Johnny. If after hearing this any QF employees voted for JH then they should be ashamed of themselves, as this is part of the reason our conditions are getting worse.
If anyone at QF apart from Dixon votes Lib next time then everyone deserves whatever comes along. I don't like to get political on here, but this is how I see it.
If anyone at QF apart from Dixon votes Lib next time then everyone deserves whatever comes along. I don't like to get political on here, but this is how I see it.
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Well it's been almost 11 days since the assessment and have had no word from anyone, even my referees. It would have been awesome to have people on this forum who had been to the same day as mine.. just so I could guage whether people who were successfully invited to the next stage were already contacted or whether they're still sifting through that process...
Still keeping very positive, but waiting is the hardest thing.
Still keeping very positive, but waiting is the hardest thing.
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Just a quick question for anyone in the know, and that is regarding the general knowledge test that JQ give you on the 1st assesment day, does anyone know what pass mark is considered acceptable and the impact this test has on your interview overall? I recently attended the assesment day and although, apart from general nerves you get, it seemed fine....except on the general knowledge test I felt like my brain had been replaced with a brick!! 
I did manage to answer all the questions, but looking back made some pretty ridiculous mistakes, that given now wouldn't have needed a second look to complete.......
I think I just wanted to return to flying so much that I may have put a bit too much pressure on myself. Its a horrible feeling when you know the mistakes you made were silly.....oh... if only we lived in a century that time machines were real
I did manage to answer all the questions, but looking back made some pretty ridiculous mistakes, that given now wouldn't have needed a second look to complete....... I think I just wanted to return to flying so much that I may have put a bit too much pressure on myself. Its a horrible feeling when you know the mistakes you made were silly.....oh... if only we lived in a century that time machines were real
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Hehe OzyOS I know what you mean. I blanked on some things but eventually realised my mistakes and answered them correctly.
Unfortunately, despite thinking I did pretty much everything right this time I still got the wretched rejection e-mail this evening. Perhaps I just didn't fit the JQ mould? I have lots of customer service experience a lot of which is identical to cabin crew.. and I am fully flexible/available, I presented well, answered all the general knowledge and my personality test honestly.. Maybe that personality test really IS what they use against you..
I had a slight feeling things weren't going anywhere.. but who knows. Can it come down to the interviewer just not liking you? I got a weird vibe from her. My intuition seems to be right on track though. I had a feeling hours ago that I wasn't going any further, and it wasn't just nerves.
Unfortunately, despite thinking I did pretty much everything right this time I still got the wretched rejection e-mail this evening. Perhaps I just didn't fit the JQ mould? I have lots of customer service experience a lot of which is identical to cabin crew.. and I am fully flexible/available, I presented well, answered all the general knowledge and my personality test honestly.. Maybe that personality test really IS what they use against you..
I had a slight feeling things weren't going anywhere.. but who knows. Can it come down to the interviewer just not liking you? I got a weird vibe from her. My intuition seems to be right on track though. I had a feeling hours ago that I wasn't going any further, and it wasn't just nerves.
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Sylphie.......I am so sorry you recieved the 'dreaded' email
It such a tricky thing these interviews, but you know what, go with your gut. When I use to be involved with the recruitment process in my QantasLink days, although we did have a list we needed to follow in terms of Questions, presentation etc. At the end of the day, it really did come down to the opinions of the interviewers. Its such a shame that the interviewer you recieved didnt bounce off favourable vibes to you, you seem absolutely lovely
. Its a funny business the airline industry and as long as the supply out-weights the demands for FA's, unfortunately they will keep making many crazy hoops for us all to keep jumping through 
Keep trying for other positions, its deffinately the year for recruitment here in Aus, so if you dont want it to end here...then something else will pop up when you least expect it that suits you to a T!
I really wish you the very best
It such a tricky thing these interviews, but you know what, go with your gut. When I use to be involved with the recruitment process in my QantasLink days, although we did have a list we needed to follow in terms of Questions, presentation etc. At the end of the day, it really did come down to the opinions of the interviewers. Its such a shame that the interviewer you recieved didnt bounce off favourable vibes to you, you seem absolutely lovely
. Its a funny business the airline industry and as long as the supply out-weights the demands for FA's, unfortunately they will keep making many crazy hoops for us all to keep jumping through Keep trying for other positions, its deffinately the year for recruitment here in Aus, so if you dont want it to end here...then something else will pop up when you least expect it that suits you to a T!
I really wish you the very best
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The most dishonest airline I've ever heard of...!
I recieved an email last Friday afternoon for an invitation to the upcoming Thursday 20th recruitment day. Eagerly, I replied that yes, I could make it, and to either session, the 0900 or 1300 not a problem.
... And so there I was, eagerly waiting until Monday, thinking perhaps the office dosesn't work on weekends, and surely by Monday evening I'd recieve a reply! Buy NO... I didn't! And so, I replied again, and again, today too! I replied a total of 6 times, a few hours in between... finally, I come back inside the house after having vacd my car, and I happily login to my email... only to find a 'generic' (I assume) reply that is the most stupidest in generic replies!!! well, that I've ever read anyway...
Here it is:
Hello,
Thank you for your _expression of interest in the Cabin Crew Selection Process this Thursday 12th July. Unfortunatley due to the overwhelming response to this session and only limited places available you have missed out this time.
Please keep your details up to date on our website for your best chance at being selected for a assessment centre in the future.
Many thanks for your keen interest.
Jetstar Cabin Crew Recruitment
Okai.... let me point out the wrong bits... firstly, I did NOT specify ANY session in particular, I said I was open to attend ANY. But Noooo, they said that there was an 'overwhelming response to this session' and due to the limited place available, I have missed out!!
Second wrong bit... selection process, on 12th July? Why... HELLO! Today is the 18th... I do believe 12th has passed..!
And thirdly, they have NOT even mentioned whether its for Domestic or International, and I have applied for BOTH! So how am I to know for sure what on earth they're on about? Though fortunately for me, they did specify it was for Domestic in their first email, so I'm assuming thats what its for still.
So fustrated!!
I feel like telling them that their half-hearted thanks don't go that far when it comes outta their rear ends!
... And so there I was, eagerly waiting until Monday, thinking perhaps the office dosesn't work on weekends, and surely by Monday evening I'd recieve a reply! Buy NO... I didn't! And so, I replied again, and again, today too! I replied a total of 6 times, a few hours in between... finally, I come back inside the house after having vacd my car, and I happily login to my email... only to find a 'generic' (I assume) reply that is the most stupidest in generic replies!!! well, that I've ever read anyway...
Here it is:
Hello,
Thank you for your _expression of interest in the Cabin Crew Selection Process this Thursday 12th July. Unfortunatley due to the overwhelming response to this session and only limited places available you have missed out this time.
Please keep your details up to date on our website for your best chance at being selected for a assessment centre in the future.
Many thanks for your keen interest.
Jetstar Cabin Crew Recruitment
Okai.... let me point out the wrong bits... firstly, I did NOT specify ANY session in particular, I said I was open to attend ANY. But Noooo, they said that there was an 'overwhelming response to this session' and due to the limited place available, I have missed out!!
Second wrong bit... selection process, on 12th July? Why... HELLO! Today is the 18th... I do believe 12th has passed..!
And thirdly, they have NOT even mentioned whether its for Domestic or International, and I have applied for BOTH! So how am I to know for sure what on earth they're on about? Though fortunately for me, they did specify it was for Domestic in their first email, so I'm assuming thats what its for still.
So fustrated!!
I feel like telling them that their half-hearted thanks don't go that far when it comes outta their rear ends!
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Iulia,
Welcome to the world that is Jetstar and by reading posts on pprune, airlines worldwide.......
JQ couldn't careless about it's current employees let alone a possible new recruit.
JQ recruitment department consists of 1 individual co-ordinating all INT and DOM and she has just started as the previous lady just left.
To once again remind you all that they don't care about your feelings or any run arounds they make you do......of the wait between emails, telephone calls or seminars
As our GM of Cabin Services says "There are plenty of people who want your jobs"
Try and get an ADHOC leave day after 4 years of service then you will feel the love....
Sorry Iulia but stay positive as 1 day it will happen
Welcome to the world that is Jetstar and by reading posts on pprune, airlines worldwide.......
JQ couldn't careless about it's current employees let alone a possible new recruit.
JQ recruitment department consists of 1 individual co-ordinating all INT and DOM and she has just started as the previous lady just left.
To once again remind you all that they don't care about your feelings or any run arounds they make you do......of the wait between emails, telephone calls or seminars
As our GM of Cabin Services says "There are plenty of people who want your jobs"
Try and get an ADHOC leave day after 4 years of service then you will feel the love....
Sorry Iulia but stay positive as 1 day it will happen
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aww thanks JetstarFA. Luckily I'm not taking it personally, afterall, its Jetstar, well-knowned for their neglect and abuse of employees, let alone prospective employees! ah well, saves me having to fork out $89 for something that wouldn't be guaranteed!
ah well, saves me having to fork out $89 for something that wouldn't be guaranteed!