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From: France
Basil,
I'm not CC, but I never heard of this kind of feature, and I would expect 99% of CC hasn't either.
So I would say.... you would "appear" to be rude.
Pushing one of the earpieces aside "sends the message" to the CC, or whoever else is talking to you, that you're listening to what they're saying.
CJ
I'm not CC, but I never heard of this kind of feature, and I would expect 99% of CC hasn't either.
So I would say.... you would "appear" to be rude.
Pushing one of the earpieces aside "sends the message" to the CC, or whoever else is talking to you, that you're listening to what they're saying.
CJ
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From: France
RyanAir : how to pack
After a bunch of Belgian students got thrown off a RyanAir flight because one of them had oversize/overweight luggage, it seems RyanAir produced this little video (I can't vouch for the authenticity, found it on a Dutch news site).
YouTube - master-packer
Nice one, actually. Worth watching....
And yes, I always stuff socks into shoes (if I need to carry a second pair).
Otherwise, they're always useful to 'buffer' fragile or odd-shaped items.
But I did like the idea of leaving half of shirts, T-shirts, trousers, etc. outside the suitcase until the last moment, then folding them in. Nice idea for avoiding sharp "luggage" folds.
CJ
YouTube - master-packer
Nice one, actually. Worth watching....
And yes, I always stuff socks into shoes (if I need to carry a second pair).
Otherwise, they're always useful to 'buffer' fragile or odd-shaped items.
But I did like the idea of leaving half of shirts, T-shirts, trousers, etc. outside the suitcase until the last moment, then folding them in. Nice idea for avoiding sharp "luggage" folds.
CJ
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From: France
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Hey Christiaan,
just fold your tshirt half way and start rolling it tightly. Do the same with underwear, pants (maybe not your suite, but jeans will be fine) and the like. It saves space, and they don't wrinkle.
It really works, but I usually only do it when packing my backpack - my suitcase has little straps to fasten folded things down with and I never pack it too tight either.
Nic
just fold your tshirt half way and start rolling it tightly. Do the same with underwear, pants (maybe not your suite, but jeans will be fine) and the like. It saves space, and they don't wrinkle.
It really works, but I usually only do it when packing my backpack - my suitcase has little straps to fasten folded things down with and I never pack it too tight either.
Nic

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From: North West UK
How do you spend your time away?
I am a SLF who meets a wide variety of people in my day job as a Chartered Surveyor. I met a client this week who works for a large charter airline. She works part time and flies from Europe to Africa as cabin crew, staying over for a week and then returns as crew the following week. She does this about six times over the winter.
It seems to me that the company is paying for her to have six weeks of holiday, but;
a) what sort of hotel will she be put up in?
b) Won't she get bored?
c) how do you relieve the ennui?
d) is this common?
In other words it sounds a lot better than it really is. Am I right?
It seems to me that the company is paying for her to have six weeks of holiday, but;
a) what sort of hotel will she be put up in?
b) Won't she get bored?
c) how do you relieve the ennui?
d) is this common?
In other words it sounds a lot better than it really is. Am I right?

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Apols if this has been posted before- no doubt some of these requests are very familiar to CC!
Suzeman
The Inside Track Blog Archive Passengers ask holiday jet crews at 35,000ft: “Please can you open a window.”
Suzeman
The Inside Track Blog Archive Passengers ask holiday jet crews at 35,000ft: “Please can you open a window.”
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From: Cheshire
High!!
I used to fly as CC for a number of years for a couple of well known airlines.
One day, during the drinks service, a pax asked me " at what height are we flying at the moment" to which I replied "i'm not sure, I'll ask the captain for you" to which the pax looked shocked and replied " you don't know and you work here" ??!! "oh hold on I'll just my inbuilt altimeter"
Is it just me or was that a dumb thing to say. How the heck would I know what height we're at mid service!! Anyway, I just gave him a "right, oookkkk, look and walked off!!
One day, during the drinks service, a pax asked me " at what height are we flying at the moment" to which I replied "i'm not sure, I'll ask the captain for you" to which the pax looked shocked and replied " you don't know and you work here" ??!! "oh hold on I'll just my inbuilt altimeter"

Is it just me or was that a dumb thing to say. How the heck would I know what height we're at mid service!! Anyway, I just gave him a "right, oookkkk, look and walked off!!
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I heard a good reply to a stupid question. I was on a flight which had to make an unscheduled fuel stop due to headwinds and weight. The Captain explained it fully and clearly. Passengers behind me started haranguing the FA, rudely and aggressively, and demanded to know why the 'plane didn't have enough fuel and why it used more fuel when it flew into a 180 knot headwind.
The FA politely said that as the Captain does not serve the food and drinks, the CC don't deal with matters related to flying the aircraft.
The FA politely said that as the Captain does not serve the food and drinks, the CC don't deal with matters related to flying the aircraft.
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From: Surrey, UK
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As posted by Jessie J on Twitter (would also like to clarify that I do not follow said person)
Right time for watching the miserable air hostess show me how the seat belt works....
Perhaps she should consider that the member of cabin crew may be really annoyed with passengers that do not switch off their blackberry / mobile phone when asked.
Or perhaps that not all passengers can fly regularly around the country / world at the expense of their record company, and may need some guidance on the above matter.
Frustrating....
Loving the work of all CC!
Big Fish
Right time for watching the miserable air hostess show me how the seat belt works....
Perhaps she should consider that the member of cabin crew may be really annoyed with passengers that do not switch off their blackberry / mobile phone when asked.
Or perhaps that not all passengers can fly regularly around the country / world at the expense of their record company, and may need some guidance on the above matter.
Frustrating....

Loving the work of all CC!
Big Fish
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Having originally started this thread in 2006 I have been impressed with the quality of anecdotes submitted. It has been suggested that there might be a scope for a published anthology of such comments.
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I am willing to undertake this but need the OK of the people who posted the comments that are included.
If you would not like your contribution to be considered please let me know by PM. I will also make very effort to contact those whose contributions are considered for inclusion.
Many thanks.
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From: France
Having originally started this thread in 2006 I have been impressed with the quality of anecdotes submitted. It has been suggested that there might be a scope for a published anthology of such comments.
I am willing to undertake this but need the OK of the people who posted the comments that are included.
I am willing to undertake this but need the OK of the people who posted the comments that are included.
I just used "Search Thread" > "Advanced Search" > "User Name" to check my own "entries". Didin't see anything too scabrous, so you have my OK.
CJ
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Then you can always fall back on the old saw:
If the pax does not know how can he tell if you flannel him?

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The danger nowadays is that all this info is available on a video channel in many aircraft so a smart alec could ask the question and triumpnantly point out the error of the response.
Way back in the dawn of time before PA we used to compose a bulletin with the essential data on it to be passed back through the cabin.
This was often pre-written. After the bulletin had gone with our planned cruise level of 9000' (pre-pressurisation) ATC advised 9000 was not available and asked us to level at 7000'. Shortly afterwards the steward came back to say a lady was finding it difficult to breathe at 9000'. "OK," I said, "tell her we will descend to 7000'"
A few minutes later the steward came back to report, "She finds that much more comfortable!".
Way back in the dawn of time before PA we used to compose a bulletin with the essential data on it to be passed back through the cabin.
This was often pre-written. After the bulletin had gone with our planned cruise level of 9000' (pre-pressurisation) ATC advised 9000 was not available and asked us to level at 7000'. Shortly afterwards the steward came back to say a lady was finding it difficult to breathe at 9000'. "OK," I said, "tell her we will descend to 7000'"
A few minutes later the steward came back to report, "She finds that much more comfortable!".
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- Where I work, FAs fly 3 or 4 different types. As opposed to pilots who fly one type.
- Each type has a different optimum cruising altitude.
- On the day, the actual altitude depends on weight, other traffic, wind at different levels, ATC and a few more things.
- In our mob, the Captn does not mention the initially expected flight level, since it will be available to the pax throughout the flight via Flight Tracking on their individual video screens.
Despite a keen interest in everything that happens in the cockpit, I would fail bitterly in living up to your expectations of an FA knowing the flight level at any given point in time during the flight Pontius.

Even if checking our current altitude is a normal part of a cockpit visit, and I´ll notice if we are much lower or higher than the vague figure I had in my head.
But just like Minicrew, rather than bullsh!tting a passenger, I´d either check Flight Tracking or call the pilots for a proper answer.
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Not strictly thick pax but thick student pilot (one of my students). A couple of years ago, I mentioned Max Moseley in a conversation about Max's little "uniform related" PR difficulty (at that time he was still head of the FIA) and then followed up with a reference to his father Oswald. My student, quick as a flash and in all seriousness said:
"Oswald Moseley, didn't he shoot John Lennon?"
wrong on so many levels.
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flapsforty, fair enough however I would still expect an FA to be familiar even if they had 3-4 types. Regardless of flight tracking, which is often in metres and mph, the flights I have been on the captain has given the initial cruising level.
As for metres, mph and OAT I have fun doing the conversions to arrive at ISA, knts and flt lts.
As for metres, mph and OAT I have fun doing the conversions to arrive at ISA, knts and flt lts.



