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Old 15th Feb 2006, 00:06
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I wouldnt want to argue the rights and wrongs of how Ryanair do their business, all i would say to you folks that use the fact they have not had any incidents in the past 20 years.....................a good past safety record is no guarantee fo.......................................................... ..................(yawn).

tighter profit margins, what is left to give?

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Old 15th Feb 2006, 00:53
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This might need to be merged with the R&N thread
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Old 15th Feb 2006, 04:02
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Checking of lifejackets depends on an individual airline's SEP. Some airlines require crew to check seat pockets and lifejackets, others don't.
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Old 15th Feb 2006, 10:34
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However, did find the training clips a bit shoddy. There's no point in showing how to pass something without actually remembering it! I think the training is outsourced to other companies though if I'm correct?
So it seems. And while what we say may not have been perfect, I'd be hesitant to judge the whole 5 week course on 5 minutes of footage.
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Old 15th Feb 2006, 10:53
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Originally Posted by irmscher001
Oh 20 years flying, now about 100 B737's, perhaps roughly 7-800 flights per day, thats a lot of flying, and no accidents! You decide!
But plenty of incidents and ongoing investigations
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Old 15th Feb 2006, 17:02
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Thats totally untrue about cc only earning £14 per sector! They also get a basic pay on top of that! The cc can easily come out with between £1000 and £1600 per month, depending on how many sectors were worked.
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Old 15th Feb 2006, 20:03
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Well, that was a question I asked on the thread in R&N but it went unanswered among all the other comments and arguments.

I could not believe that they only got the 'sector pay' that was mentioned.

I know people are desperate to become cabin crew but surely nobody would be so desperate that they would pay whatever it was (£1400?) to train for an airline which only paid £14 to £18 per sector.
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Old 16th Feb 2006, 08:19
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I think its because they cant see themselves getting into another airline, also whats with paying for the uniform for wearing it lol, it takes the p**s, its a load os crap. hehehe printed ryanair on it lol
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Old 16th Feb 2006, 21:29
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Originally Posted by TURIN
Looked like they found one little issue and the rest was fluff.
How many CC check the life jackets before flt? As an engineer I do it on a weekly or monthly basis, and it takes an age.

Actually... I had an off base crew member working one of my flights recently and she managed to haul something like 20+ expired life jackets out in an hour turnaround... I was impressed..

ANything that Dispatches exposed was either hear say, what we already knew or what we already know goes on.... I was looking forward to some juicy in flight scandal ! I was sadly disappointed...
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Old 16th Feb 2006, 21:37
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Hello,

I would like to know how does it work for the Crewlink Recruitment of Cabin Crew for Ryanair. If some one know about that and can help me. Thank's




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Old 22nd Feb 2006, 19:05
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I didnt see this documentary but flew Ryan Air last week and once again when boarding the crew were to busy on the phone haveing a gossip with back galley to monitor the pax or boarding cards. Also we sat at an over wing exit but were not at any point breifed on procedures or asked if we aware it was an exit, which of course being crew i was but they didnt know that and most pax arnt realy aware of procedures. I think Ryan Air may also be skimping on their customer service training to!
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Old 22nd Feb 2006, 19:20
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Originally Posted by sukigirl
I think Ryan Air may also be skimping on their customer service training to!

I'd rather not enter into a "Bash Ryanair Thread" hpwever I would like to highlight that while it is nice to receive good Customer Service from a service provider that you have paid money too is it really critical that you receive a smile and a wink after stropping out minimum funding for your seat ?

Maybe I am alone but to be honest I dont really care how I am treated as long as I get to the place I wanted to be without the assistance of a body bag... Easily pleased I suppose...
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Old 22nd Feb 2006, 20:50
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Should probably add that i paid almost £180 inc taxes and fees for a ticket to austria, it was a typical offer of £35 but over treble that for the return home, and not forgetting that they charge for being over your measly luggage allowance of 15kg. I think its a myth that Ryan Air always dish out cheap flights. I dont call that cheap for a less than 2 hour flight.
I think the point is that they are making millions in profit a year and still they skimp on the basic requirements.
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Old 22nd Feb 2006, 21:19
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Not wanting to seem as if I am gearing for an argument here and most likely soon to be slandered for taking this off topic but Why did you choose Ryanair if they werent the cheapest ?
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Old 23rd Feb 2006, 08:53
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Yes you are taking this off topic DUBXH, there were reasons but why is that so important to you? its not relevant because its not the point i was making.

It doesnt change the fact that it wasnt that cheap and if you look into the prices past the initial offer of 'wow we can offer you a ticket to x for £35' You are very likely to find its misleading. It sounds like we are talking about a budget airline on this thread that makes hardly any profit therefore they have to cut back on other areas such as proper checks on turnarounds, training crew efficiently etc. However thats not the case, This is a company that is probably making more profit than the major airlines such as BA, Virgin, BMI etc, Airlines that dont cut back in these areas because they wouldnt get away with it, so why is Ryan Air?
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Old 23rd Feb 2006, 18:17
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Originally Posted by sukigirl
Should probably add that i paid almost £180 inc taxes and fees for a ticket to austria, it was a typical offer of £35 but over treble that for the return home, and not forgetting that they charge for being over your measly luggage allowance of 15kg. I think its a myth that Ryan Air always dish out cheap flights. I dont call that cheap for a less than 2 hour flight.
I think the point is that they are making millions in profit a year and still they skimp on the basic requirements.
Well you are as guilty as I...

The point I was trying to make is that you travelled with a LCC and paid a reasonably high fare, I was merely asking why you did that...

The fact of the matter is that Ryanair do not receive any preferntial treatment over other Airlines, such an allegation is ludicrous.

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Old 23rd Feb 2006, 21:10
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Sorry DUB but im not getting where your going with this at all and i dont think your getting what im saying. I dont know what im supposed to be guilty about and I dont want to know, please can we just leave it there now.

Just wandering if there will be more of an investigation into FR now or if the dispatches programme will even stand as any evidence. I didnt know they had to pay for thier uniforms, how much do they have to pay? Do they really have to pay for their training?
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Old 23rd Feb 2006, 22:25
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Originally Posted by sukigirl
Yes you are taking this off topic DUBXH, there were reasons but why is that so important to you? its not relevant because its not the point i was making.
It doesnt change the fact that it wasnt that cheap and if you look into the prices past the initial offer of 'wow we can offer you a ticket to x for £35' You are very likely to find its misleading.
My response...

Originally Posted by DUBXH
Well you are as guilty as I...

The point I was trying to make is that you travelled with a LCC and paid a reasonably high fare, I was merely asking why you did that...
Originally Posted by sukgirl
they have to cut back on other areas such as proper checks on turnarounds, training crew efficiently etc. However thats not the case, This is a company that is probably making more profit than the major airlines such as BA, Virgin, BMI etc, Airlines that dont cut back in these areas because they wouldnt get away with it, so why is Ryan Air?
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Originally Posted by DUBXH
The fact of the matter is that Ryanair do not receive any preferntial treatment over other Airlines, such an allegation is ludicrous.

In my opinion The Dispatches programme could give no evidence.... Very much of it was "hearsay" They were short of Michael O Leary standing in front of the camera saying "It is company procedure to have crew fake their refs..."

The fact that there were blank BAA Temporary passes lying idle around the STN crew room would prompt one to question BAA's security procedures... However I could see no actual fault by Ryanair crew at any time through the program... Just a lot of pi$$ed off staff...
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Old 23rd Feb 2006, 23:15
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I think the point made by sukigirl is a valid one: flying Ryanair is not always the cheapest option.

I made this point early in the Ryanair thread on R&N. If you book your journey late and close to the departure time, you may end up paying as much as the full-service carriers. Also, if you have to change your details or departure date in any way, it will cost you mega bucks.
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Old 24th Feb 2006, 07:01
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Eh ? That's the point... Dont book late and dont make changes.
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