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XLBOY 13th Feb 2006 20:35

Ryanair Dispatches
 
Wow now when know how ryanair makes its money!! Putting our lives in danger, shows the type of airline it really is now. What u guys think??

justwannabeapilot 13th Feb 2006 20:39

Dispatches : Ryanair
 
Well guys and gals time to set the cat amongst the pigeons.

Having watched the Dispatches programme tonight I thought it only fair, if only for my own curiosity, if I posed the questions below.

Was this a case of proving that you "getwhat you pay for!" or sensationalist journalism at its best.

Discuss ..............

I would be interested to see CC, PAX, etc etc all having a say.

For now I am sitting on the fence. :ok:

Lets Get Wasted 13th Feb 2006 21:13

found it extremely shocking.I wonder if they're skimping on tech issues ?

TURIN 13th Feb 2006 21:28

Looked like they found one little issue and the rest was fluff.

How many CC check the life jackets before flt? As an engineer I do it on a weekly or monthly basis, and it takes an age.

As for the slide bottle pressure, they can and do change as the bottle warms up or cools down so it could easily change from a no-go to a go in a few minutes.

I'm glad we never had cameras in our training classes, tall stories fly around all day, the instructor does it to relieve the boredom!

As for the 'Ryanair don't care about their passengers' line. Well, we knew that didn't we?:ok:

straightnotlevel 14th Feb 2006 08:00

very predictable, is anywhere any different?? i wasnt surprised at all, wat do people really expect??

youre not gonna get scheduled service on a low cost carrier ffs!!!

XLBOY 14th Feb 2006 08:06

I agree to that straightnovel but safety should always remain at a high standard. especially in this day an age even if they sell a flight at £1.

SallyEZY 14th Feb 2006 09:08

How many CC check the life jackets before flt?

I do and all my colleagues too. It's part of the preflight checks and my as the purser take an eye that that procedure will take place every turnaround, before the first and after the last flight........:ok:

OzzieO 14th Feb 2006 09:10

I found it ok to watch but hardly think there was anything on it that was shocking or terrible.

I can see Ryanair management are going to have a shake up with the way they train cabin crew but thats about it.

XLBOY 14th Feb 2006 11:56

also think they need to work harder and alongside with the BAA airport security, and make there turn arounds more longer even an extra 10 minutes would help ,

angels 14th Feb 2006 12:44

Speaking as SLF I was surprised that the pay was only 14 quid a sector. Take away tax, NI, uniform (!!), travel etc and that must leave bugger all.

How do CC do it? Why? Is Ryanair seen as a stepping stone towards something more pleasant and profitable??

XLBOY 14th Feb 2006 13:06

Ryanair dont care who they take cause there gettin money from anyone and thats all they seem to care about like any other airline you get ya training paid for and that shows the loyalty of the airline and just shows the difference of quality from crew to planes.

VIKING9 14th Feb 2006 14:59


Originally Posted by angels
Speaking as SLF I was surprised that the pay was only 14 quid a sector. Take away tax, NI, uniform (!!), travel etc and that must leave bugger all.
How do CC do it? Why? Is Ryanair seen as a stepping stone towards something more pleasant and profitable??

There are lots of girls and boys coming from the former Eastern Europe and thus the poor salary offered at RYR is actually a big increase on what they would get at home, and they tend to share flats/apartments with 3, 4 or 5 others and thus keeping the individual rent down. Having seen sectors cheques from some RYR crew, I can say that the sector pay is not always as bad as it seems on the surface.

Gatwick07 14th Feb 2006 16:04

I just think that any company should show respect to their employees. The Ryanair crew on last night's programme seemed to respect their employers highly....... unfortunately the respect didn't seem mutual. I felt sad that the Captain didn't have the power of most Captains in any other airline. Whilst I understand all airlines make mistakes and crew members become complacent, I've never known any airline to prioritise boarding passengers over security checks!!! Shocking!!

Transat Hostie 14th Feb 2006 18:24

Hey, we've all been there. The Captain's on your back to get away again and you've no time to do everything on turnaround. I don't know how the FR guys and gals do it on 25mins, or the EZY crews too!

However, did find the training clips a bit shoddy. There's no point in showing how to pass something without actually remembering it! I think the training is outsourced to other companies though if I'm correct?

I wonder if we'll see any differences in the whole FR approach now that programme has aired?

TURIN 14th Feb 2006 19:32

SALLYEZY

You and your crew must be a minority. In 22 years in line maintenance (hovering for a brew) I have never seen CC get down on their knees and individually check the lifejackets under the seat. That's on a number of airlines from as far afield as Australia, Far East, Middle East, USA, Northern and Southern Europe and the UK!

Not doubting you Sally, just never seen it meself.:ok:

tart1 14th Feb 2006 19:52

It's 22 years since I stopped flying and we used to have to thoroughly check the lifejackets before every flight.

It is quite hard work getting down to see all of them and it would probably take 5 minutes or so. Obviously, time which could not be spared on a 25 minute turnround.

We didn't check them on turnround, the theory being I suppose that if some were missing, there wasn't a lot we could do about it!! :D

XLBOY 14th Feb 2006 20:19

some airlines do check life jackets and i do and all the crew on the aircraft do, we check so many per sector depending on longhaul or short.. were meant to do it and are told in training so its the crews responsibility and if they dont its the individual not performing safety euipment check properly, then it comes down to a different matter.

Turkish777 14th Feb 2006 20:30

Seat 1A?
 
What was that crock of s.... about seat 1A??? Anyway one heard that one before??

And to be fair as much as they got put down you must admit they do have an excellent safety record, I mean the amount of sectors that airline does each day (must be hundreds for the total fleet) and not one accident in 20 years...not bad...:ok:

XLBOY 14th Feb 2006 20:34

But if there was an accident things wouldnt run smoothly as equipment ie slide wasnt pressurised and there for take longer to evacuate if they can. its the after effect of the emergency that arisen concern too, pilot fatigued isnt good and crew fatigue is also not good for such arising situations. things need to be eliminated before they happen not to increase chances

flight_for_life 14th Feb 2006 21:06

checking lifejackets
 
The checking of lifejackets isn't just to check they're actually there and serviceable, but to check that something else more sinister isn't there.


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