Will AO crew become JQ Int. or QF Mainline Crew
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Cherrie,
At AO we can't land from a trip at 05.30 and then fly again the same night.
I find it hard to beleive that a ground school is nearing completion. It's still around 7mths til they start flying.....and given no one has heard anything, I think you will find that that is gossip.
And if it was galley gossip, you will probably find it's just that.....like the hilarious one we got asked by QF crew when we landed in Hong Kong the other day in passing......"so we heard all of you at AO were offered redundencies and are taking them"
However Phuket does seem like a likely choice for JQ I and possibly Honolulu.
Enjoy what's left of your weekend.
RaverFlaver
At AO we can't land from a trip at 05.30 and then fly again the same night.
I find it hard to beleive that a ground school is nearing completion. It's still around 7mths til they start flying.....and given no one has heard anything, I think you will find that that is gossip.
And if it was galley gossip, you will probably find it's just that.....like the hilarious one we got asked by QF crew when we landed in Hong Kong the other day in passing......"so we heard all of you at AO were offered redundencies and are taking them"
However Phuket does seem like a likely choice for JQ I and possibly Honolulu.
Enjoy what's left of your weekend.
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What are they thinking??
Almost as hilarous as the other day on board.. Asked by a qf flight attendant how we are feeling in regards to turning into a jet star asia 'cns base'?
I love it...
I love it...
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J*I gorund school
Ground school sorry for typo.thanks for replies. just passing on what i heard. must be another crew memeber making up idle gossip to enter a discussion we were having about J*I. Apologies all round. If anyone does hear of anything please forward on as it would proove interesting how the selection will be made.
Still havent heard how EBA #2 is going think we will be waiting for that one as long as we were the first one somehow
oh well if they want a fight they got one....
Anyways will keep in touch. Every one have a good week
C
Still havent heard how EBA #2 is going think we will be waiting for that one as long as we were the first one somehow
oh well if they want a fight they got one....Anyways will keep in touch. Every one have a good week
C
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We were promised 'crewnet' as part of our new AO EBA.............WHERE IS IT ?
No more excuses AO.
Where is the rest of our uniform allocation AO ?
One Jacket, three Shirts and two Trousers is not enough for an international flight attendant.
No more excuses AO.
Where is the rest of our uniform allocation AO ?
One Jacket, three Shirts and two Trousers is not enough for an international flight attendant.
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Where the bloody hell will we be?
Sonique Darling,
I'm already expecting my QF uniform, it fits perfectly in my imagination. Can't wait for that to happen, don't you? Who wants that promised but undelivered shirt? I didn't want the zip-up jacket in the first place anyway. If not QF CNS base, then JQI SYD base would be just fine too, thanks!
After 3 and half years, I think we all pretty much agree that the company wants a lot from us, but failed ugly to deliver what we really want. I still keep smiling because I truly love flying, not because of the company. AO is lucky to have people like us.
But you're right, where the bloody hell is the crewnet? One world staff travel? Why are we the only group that doesn't get One world staff travel? Why are we always the last ones to know everything? Not fair!
I'm already expecting my QF uniform, it fits perfectly in my imagination. Can't wait for that to happen, don't you? Who wants that promised but undelivered shirt? I didn't want the zip-up jacket in the first place anyway. If not QF CNS base, then JQI SYD base would be just fine too, thanks!
After 3 and half years, I think we all pretty much agree that the company wants a lot from us, but failed ugly to deliver what we really want. I still keep smiling because I truly love flying, not because of the company. AO is lucky to have people like us.
But you're right, where the bloody hell is the crewnet? One world staff travel? Why are we the only group that doesn't get One world staff travel? Why are we always the last ones to know everything? Not fair!
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I'm sorry to sound ignorant but what is "crewnet"?
I'm guessing its something like what we've got http://www.qfcrew.webcentral.com.au/
correct?
I'm guessing its something like what we've got http://www.qfcrew.webcentral.com.au/
correct?
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Hey Airbus Galley Girl,
It's ok, even we don't know what it is so far. It was promised to have the abilities to view our rosters, swap trips with other crew on-line...etc. But we don't know where it is and when it will be ready for use. The management told us about it 2 years ago, if I remember correct. Where is it?
It's ok, even we don't know what it is so far. It was promised to have the abilities to view our rosters, swap trips with other crew on-line...etc. But we don't know where it is and when it will be ready for use. The management told us about it 2 years ago, if I remember correct. Where is it?
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What concerns me is that a lot of AO and MAM crew automatically believe that they will become JQ International.
Why is this ? Have you been promised something by AO / MAM....
Or is it just because you have flown longhaul and have an EBA in place.
REASON I ASK....
A lot of JQ Domestic believe that they should get first option to be a JQ Int flight attendant .... Which is fair as they are already there and a lot have experience with long haul - i.e , Lauda, Qantas, Gulf, Emirates and Virgin Atlantic
Any comments would be good
Why is this ? Have you been promised something by AO / MAM....
Or is it just because you have flown longhaul and have an EBA in place.
REASON I ASK....
A lot of JQ Domestic believe that they should get first option to be a JQ Int flight attendant .... Which is fair as they are already there and a lot have experience with long haul - i.e , Lauda, Qantas, Gulf, Emirates and Virgin Atlantic
Any comments would be good
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Just to play a bit of devil's advocate here ....
What makes anyone think Jetstar International will have any cabin crew based in Australia? If they need it to be so cheap for the operation to work, wouldnt it be cheaper to have all crew based in Asia and slip them in Australia?
What makes anyone think Jetstar International will have any cabin crew based in Australia? If they need it to be so cheap for the operation to work, wouldnt it be cheaper to have all crew based in Asia and slip them in Australia?
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I think the reason why alot of people believe that the MAM casuals will be offered limited places in JetStar Intl is that they are already certified on the A330-200 that the operation is going to operate until the B787 come online. 
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Have to agree with cart elevator, J*Inter. will mainly be all offshore crew so to keep fares so low on such marginal routes. And yes AO crew will be wearing Qantas uniforms, but may not like the conditions attached. Wait and see. Can anyone confirm where has all AO management gone, have they all gone including CEO????
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There will definitely be Australian based crew. As the division grows, there will be more and more offshore based crew utilised, but logisitics require Australian based crew to keep the aircraft flying when they come back into Australia.
WHO actually does it is anyone's guess!
WHO actually does it is anyone's guess!
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Originally Posted by Mr Seatback 2
There will definitely be Australian based crew. As the division grows, there will be more and more offshore based crew utilised, but logisitics require Australian based crew to keep the aircraft flying when they come back into Australia. !
..stick to serving tea and coffee Mr Seatback. Please explain to me why crew must be based in Oz to fly aircraft to and from Australia. Since when did the 40 or so foreign airlines base crew in Australia to keep their operations going? 
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Originally Posted by B A Lert
Wrong, wrong and wrong. ..stick to serving tea and coffee Mr Seatback. Please explain to me why crew must be based in Oz to fly aircraft to and from Australia. Since when did the 40 or so foreign airlines base crew in Australia to keep their operations going?
..stick to serving tea and coffee Mr Seatback. Please explain to me why crew must be based in Oz to fly aircraft to and from Australia. Since when did the 40 or so foreign airlines base crew in Australia to keep their operations going? Overseas crew are only good, IF your pattern planning and slipping allows you to maximise the resource. A HNL route, in the launch phase would all but require Aus crew. To use others would cost the actual cost saving in the extra slipping/allowances.
Remember - O/S crew are not just about saving money on the pay, look at the QF group so far:
1. LHR Base - Saves LH allowances and LHR slips,
2. BKK base - Saves LH allowances and slips
2. AKL SH Base - Aircraft are O/N in the bases so patterns originate from AKL/WLG into Aus - again a saving on slipping/allowances
Same as DJ and JQ O/S based crew.
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"What concerns me is that a lot of AO and MAM crew automatically believe that they will become JQ International."
I actually find the opposite. I'm not sure how many of the AO crew you have spoken to or what you deem to be a "lot" of crew, but most crew I fly with and speak to don't know what will happen, and do not neceassarily believe we will automatically become JQ International.
RaverFlaver
I actually find the opposite. I'm not sure how many of the AO crew you have spoken to or what you deem to be a "lot" of crew, but most crew I fly with and speak to don't know what will happen, and do not neceassarily believe we will automatically become JQ International.
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Quoting:- (Gloria)
And yes AO crew will be wearing Qantas uniforms, but may not like the conditions attached.
What are you suggesting?, or what have you heard? You seem to be pretty sure judging from your post.
And yes AO crew will be wearing Qantas uniforms, but may not like the conditions attached.
What are you suggesting?, or what have you heard? You seem to be pretty sure judging from your post.
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why why why..
why is it that this thread has gone in such a direction..
this thread is not an argument between crew over who will become JQI.
I agree with raver, the crew who i fly with don't think that we will automatically be offered JQI. I know alot at ao really don't want it and only entertain the idea because they would simply like to move back down south and fly...
It seems alot of current JQ crew are under impression it (JQI) is going to be the best thing since sliced bread.. hmmm.. just because you go to the ports dosen't mean it's great.
Good luck to JQ dom taking JQI, you guys may not only have the experience with l/h, but also with the entire 'Jet* show'.. personally for me it would be like one long never ending hkg! with money involved!
Sure it won't be long till we all know where we are going to be, and how we are going to be doing it..
later all
this thread is not an argument between crew over who will become JQI.
I agree with raver, the crew who i fly with don't think that we will automatically be offered JQI. I know alot at ao really don't want it and only entertain the idea because they would simply like to move back down south and fly...
It seems alot of current JQ crew are under impression it (JQI) is going to be the best thing since sliced bread.. hmmm.. just because you go to the ports dosen't mean it's great.
Good luck to JQ dom taking JQI, you guys may not only have the experience with l/h, but also with the entire 'Jet* show'.. personally for me it would be like one long never ending hkg! with money involved!
Sure it won't be long till we all know where we are going to be, and how we are going to be doing it..
later all
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I'm still wondering why the J* crew think they will get first dibs at the spots in J*I.
From my understanding, J*I will be entirely seperate to the domestic ops and there will be no transfers to and from one division to the other (similar to how AN domestic and international was operated). I don't see any benefit to the company to utilise current crew in J* domestic, as then not only do they have to train them for J*I but also train up a replacement in J* domestic.
I also highly doubt they will shift MAM casuals to J*I - they are desperately needed over at QF, even with the loss of one subtype, remember the A330-300 will still be over at QF, it is only the 200 (I think there's only 5?) that is going to J*I. Endorsements to one aircraft type is minimal.
My suspicions are that the AO crew will remain on their current agreement but be 'absorbed' into the QF shorthaul structure, becoming a satellite base in CNS off the BNE base. I'm guessing that they will remain on their current agreement for something like 2 years before the base closes and crew will go onto the QF SH agreement. There will be no transfers into CNS, only out.
However this is just my logic, could be completely wrong!
SG
From my understanding, J*I will be entirely seperate to the domestic ops and there will be no transfers to and from one division to the other (similar to how AN domestic and international was operated). I don't see any benefit to the company to utilise current crew in J* domestic, as then not only do they have to train them for J*I but also train up a replacement in J* domestic.
I also highly doubt they will shift MAM casuals to J*I - they are desperately needed over at QF, even with the loss of one subtype, remember the A330-300 will still be over at QF, it is only the 200 (I think there's only 5?) that is going to J*I. Endorsements to one aircraft type is minimal.
My suspicions are that the AO crew will remain on their current agreement but be 'absorbed' into the QF shorthaul structure, becoming a satellite base in CNS off the BNE base. I'm guessing that they will remain on their current agreement for something like 2 years before the base closes and crew will go onto the QF SH agreement. There will be no transfers into CNS, only out.
However this is just my logic, could be completely wrong!
SG
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B A Lert - like overhere as stated. Next...
Re: JQ Dom to Intl - management are telling all those who will listen that JQ Dom crew will be getting first dibs at EXPRESSING INTEREST in joining Intl. From there, management will select crew from the EOI's based on merit.
That's what we're being told anyway. There will also be external applicants sought to join JQ Intl, as we've been told that Domestic ops will not be cannibalised for crew at the expense of Intl - each is as important as the other.
Re: JQ Dom to Intl - management are telling all those who will listen that JQ Dom crew will be getting first dibs at EXPRESSING INTEREST in joining Intl. From there, management will select crew from the EOI's based on merit.
That's what we're being told anyway. There will also be external applicants sought to join JQ Intl, as we've been told that Domestic ops will not be cannibalised for crew at the expense of Intl - each is as important as the other.