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Firstly, as a non-cabin crew - a big thank you to all of you for the tough job you do!
Now what I wanted to say: I have a pet peeve about fellow passengers leaping into the aisle and getting bags down before we've parked properly.
But the other day I heard a great extra cabin announcement, just as we were slowing up at the gate - reminding the punters to stay put until the seatbelt sugn was off - and it worked!!!!!
Brilliant - can we have more of that please?
Now what I wanted to say: I have a pet peeve about fellow passengers leaping into the aisle and getting bags down before we've parked properly.
But the other day I heard a great extra cabin announcement, just as we were slowing up at the gate - reminding the punters to stay put until the seatbelt sugn was off - and it worked!!!!!
Brilliant - can we have more of that please?
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Can I say I'm right there with you on this one....
My single biggest pet hate is the sound of snapping seatbelts as they're undone and we're still rolling.
I'm usually right onto it. No passenger has ever beaten the aircraft to the gate so I don't know why they insist on standing up and moving forward!!
My single biggest pet hate is the sound of snapping seatbelts as they're undone and we're still rolling.
I'm usually right onto it. No passenger has ever beaten the aircraft to the gate so I don't know why they insist on standing up and moving forward!!
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A couple of years ago, a nanosecond after the wheels touched the ground at Dublin on an Aer Lingus flight from LGW, a punter leaped up and tried to open a bin. The FA could be clearly heard to say "Jeeezis Keriiist give me patience" in her finest northdublinese as she dealt with the idiot ....
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From another thread:
Flying up from Gatwick to Manchester last night,on landing and while taxinig to the gate the captain finished his address by saying
"Please remain seated until the aircraft has come to a complete standstill and the engines are turned off, this is because we may have to brake quickly causing you all to roll to the front of the cabin, landing at my door and impeding my exit from the aircraft"
Could any of us put it better??
Flying up from Gatwick to Manchester last night,on landing and while taxinig to the gate the captain finished his address by saying
"Please remain seated until the aircraft has come to a complete standstill and the engines are turned off, this is because we may have to brake quickly causing you all to roll to the front of the cabin, landing at my door and impeding my exit from the aircraft"
Could any of us put it better??
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Funny you guys should mention this, but I did a flight a week ago and after landing (off runway but on a high speed taxi way) a passenger handed their infant across the aisle to the parent on the other side, at the same time the captain or FO had to brake sharply, end result.... a baby being thrown from row 2 to the floor and cracking its head open on an arm rest.
Parents been in contact with airline to pass the blame to us.
As far as i see it, if u aint got it fastened its your fault! why should i be buckled in on the forward jump seat and passengers allowed to roam the cabin? if im strapped in, isnt it telling you something? im sitting here for the fun of it!
Parents been in contact with airline to pass the blame to us.
As far as i see it, if u aint got it fastened its your fault! why should i be buckled in on the forward jump seat and passengers allowed to roam the cabin? if im strapped in, isnt it telling you something? im sitting here for the fun of it!
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Parents been in contact with airline to pass the blame to us.
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I have chased it up with head office today just to be curious. they told me something along the lines of... if the seat belt sign is on, and they dont pay attention its their problem. same goes if u are in turbulance or just after take off when they decide to walk around when the belt sign is on. anyone confirm if its true that ur not insured, or u dont have a leg to stand on if you dont pay attention to FSB sign and get injured becasue of it?
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Was on a flight in to Houston Intercontinental about 9 months ago which aborted landing at the last second, because some idiot passenger got out of their seat (I presume a flight attendant called the flight deck). Anyway, after the second attempt when we were taxiing to the gate, the captain made an announcement that he was sorry for the delay we were about to experience, but due to the passenger action the plane would be boarded by federal marshalls. *Nobody* unbuckled their seat belt until they were told to on that flight ...
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Probably an urban myth but there was a story of an F/A making the announcement on landing after an AN flight and pax started removing seatbelts...
"I thought I told you to keep your seatbelts ON - now we have to take you all back to Brisbane to try again!"
"I thought I told you to keep your seatbelts ON - now we have to take you all back to Brisbane to try again!"
Crewboi83,
its a tricky situation... they could crap on about duty of care and soforth. in the end, by law they are required to follow the instructions of the aircrafts crew, and any approved signage, whether it be fixed, or illuminated.
which i think begs the question, why dosent the airline come back at them with the approach, you broke the law and endangered crew/pax with a human/infant missile... surely thatd scare em off...
Either way, (and parents with babies are always the worst), when it comes to the cruch theres always people silly enough to believe that they/or their babies are exempt from the laws of gravity and inertia.
I found one colleagues approach interesting, 'mam, please strap in baby, ive cleaned enough infants off the front bulkhead this week to last me a lifetime...'
its a tricky situation... they could crap on about duty of care and soforth. in the end, by law they are required to follow the instructions of the aircrafts crew, and any approved signage, whether it be fixed, or illuminated.
which i think begs the question, why dosent the airline come back at them with the approach, you broke the law and endangered crew/pax with a human/infant missile... surely thatd scare em off...
Either way, (and parents with babies are always the worst), when it comes to the cruch theres always people silly enough to believe that they/or their babies are exempt from the laws of gravity and inertia.
I found one colleagues approach interesting, 'mam, please strap in baby, ive cleaned enough infants off the front bulkhead this week to last me a lifetime...'
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And on a slightly different tack, why the big hurry to get out of your seat when the plane has stopped? You always end up standing in the aisle for a good few minutes before the line starts moving getting thumped by other peoples cabin bags etc!
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I suppose when you look at it, those at the front and at the back (if rear stairs are available) could benefit from a quick exit. I have found though if I happened to be about mid cabin, it does seem a bit of a waste of time getting up too early. I have not yet had the experience where some one is telling me to get up sooner than later and if I am in a hurry, I will usually try and get a seat further up front anyway. I think there is nothing wrong with the crew asking passengers to deplane quickly without sending the message that they are trying to get rid of you. It's a shamethey dont unload through aero bridges at the back as well.
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I have been operating a flight one time when on taxi a passenger started walking around and the Purser made a PA asking this passenger to sit down and that if the plane was to stop all of a sudden and he hurt himself, the airline would not be liable whatsoever. Yes, the PA was a little serious with no joking, but the passenger sat down immediately filled with embarrassment.
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This has always interested me. I can stand up on a moving bus and also on the tube so what's the issue when pulling on to or away from the gate at <1 mph. Flew Ryanair yesterday and I'm always impressed with their new eastern cabin staff. Mind you the PA is almost as bad as BA with Ryanair pushing the sale of scratch cards etc. instead of introducing us to each attendant in each grubby cabin. Ah, the romance of air travel - bmi and BA next week - a riot, I'm sure.
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anyone confirm if its true that ur not insured, or u dont have a leg to stand on if you dont pay attention to FSB sign and get injured becasue of it?
This has always interested me. I can stand up on a moving bus and also on the tube so what's the issue when pulling on to or away from the gate at <1 mph.
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That's interesting, and I don't doubt your claim (!) about the insurance issue in your airline, but certainly in our airline this is not the case. We always used to use the line 'you will not be insured' if a pax were to get up when the FSB was switched on but when HQ heard we were saying this, they said that tgis was not true. What is true is that they will not have a leg to stand on (quite literally, in some cases!) if they were to try and sue.
I'm going to find out the exact wording though this week and let you know what they say.
When pulling onto stand at the end of every sector (sometimes we do 6 a day!) I always ask pax to remain seated til the FSB is switched off which 99% of the time does the job.
For those who don't know the reason for the FSB being left on while the engines are running on stand, this is to stop people getting up, opening the lockers and blocking the aisles with their baggage. All the while the engines are running there is a fire risk. Fire=Evacuation, and evacuating with bags blocking the aisles ain't safe.
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That's interesting, and I don't doubt your claim (!) about the insurance issue in your airline, but certainly in our airline this is not the case. We always used to use the line 'you will not be insured' if a pax were to get up when the FSB was switched on but when HQ heard we were saying this, they said that tgis was not true. What is true is that they will not have a leg to stand on (quite literally, in some cases!) if they were to try and sue.
I'm going to find out the exact wording though this week and let you know what they say.
When pulling onto stand at the end of every sector (sometimes we do 6 a day!) I always ask pax to remain seated til the FSB is switched off which 99% of the time does the job.
For those who don't know the reason for the FSB being left on while the engines are running on stand, this is to stop people getting up, opening the lockers and blocking the aisles with their baggage. All the while the engines are running there is a fire risk. Fire=Evacuation, and evacuating with bags blocking the aisles ain't safe.
T
BUCKLE UP!
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Three announcements I've made in the past on that issue...
Ladies & Gentlemen, Please remain seated as impromptu visits to the flight deck are not allowed, and the captain has big feet for the little brake pedals.
Ladies and gentlemen, unless you have a superhuman ability to leave the aircraft before the door is open, we ask you kindly to remain seated.
Ladies and gentlemen, please observe the fasten seat belt signs. Gentlemen please observe the fasten seat belt sign. Sir please observe the fasten seatbelt sign. Sir, yes you sir, about row 20, yes you, sit!! Thankyou
Ladies & Gentlemen, Please remain seated as impromptu visits to the flight deck are not allowed, and the captain has big feet for the little brake pedals.
Ladies and gentlemen, unless you have a superhuman ability to leave the aircraft before the door is open, we ask you kindly to remain seated.
Ladies and gentlemen, please observe the fasten seat belt signs. Gentlemen please observe the fasten seat belt sign. Sir please observe the fasten seatbelt sign. Sir, yes you sir, about row 20, yes you, sit!! Thankyou
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Ladies and gentlemen, please observe the fasten seat belt signs. Gentlemen please observe the fasten seat belt sign. Sir please observe the fasten seatbelt sign. Sir, yes you sir, about row 20, yes you, sit!! Thankyou
I like it, that's great...I was once on a flight where this lady in the row in front who had been yapping on her phone in the boarding lounge (ala "I'm so important, look at me I'm a powerful businesswoman" thing) got up while we were taxiing in to the gate. She had been contradicting the crew all flight and generally being rude so of course I didn' like her much...
I guess the crew hadn't seen her yet and I said "I think you should sit down in case he stops..."Of course she just made some rude remark and said "I don't need to sit down-" at which the plane braked suddenly coming into the stand and said lady fell really ungracefully back into her seat, dropping her phone, PDA and papers all over the floor, getting loads of sniggers from the other pax who thought she well deserved it!!
You could always use a variation on the old chestnut and say "First one who stands up before we stop has to clean the plane".... should work a treat!!