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JFK AND THE CONVERTS
Tow-truck... speedbirdhouse
It's confirmed my faith in the commonsense of crew. I'm glad sensible people who attended the FAAA meeting in Sydney after hearing all the facts have walked away agreeing that the JFK dispensation should continue.
The issue is all about the preservation of our job security by protecting our flying. No matter what our personal views about QF management there is no point spitting the dummy, refusing to continue the dispensation and then have our flying further transferred to others. This is the point that I and several others have tried to convey.
The meeting today was a professional and convincing event and further demonstrated the competence of the FAAA leadership.
I'll be there at the Friday meeting.
It's great to see that people who were opposed to the JFK dispensation were convinced of its correctness once they had the benefit of hearing a comprehensive and logical argument in support of the dispensation rather than listening to incorrect information that was being spread by a few individuals.
It's confirmed my faith in the commonsense of crew. I'm glad sensible people who attended the FAAA meeting in Sydney after hearing all the facts have walked away agreeing that the JFK dispensation should continue.
The issue is all about the preservation of our job security by protecting our flying. No matter what our personal views about QF management there is no point spitting the dummy, refusing to continue the dispensation and then have our flying further transferred to others. This is the point that I and several others have tried to convey.
The meeting today was a professional and convincing event and further demonstrated the competence of the FAAA leadership.
I'll be there at the Friday meeting.
It's great to see that people who were opposed to the JFK dispensation were convinced of its correctness once they had the benefit of hearing a comprehensive and logical argument in support of the dispensation rather than listening to incorrect information that was being spread by a few individuals.
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sydney domestic,
You may be interested to learn that there are serious medical and safety issues that occur in regular bases on our international flights.
The ability to comunicate with WHOLE CABINS of non english speaker passengers in these situations does come in handy.
Could you imagine what it would be like for a plane load of Japanese passengers departing Tokyo expecting a 9 hour flight to Perth suddenly finding themselves in an emergency decent with NO ONE on board able to communicate to them what is happening?
Qantas's choice to operate without them to save money is negligent in the extreme....................
The following is a cut and paste from the D&G forum. I assume it was from a pilot and it may help you to understand the need for language speaking FA's on international sectors.
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t was cost cutting regarding the language speakers on the PERTH TOKYO Flight.
Perth Longhaul have been flying the Tokyo trips for the best part of 3-4 years now. In nearly all cases 2 or 3 Japanese speakers are planned as crew - this obviously helps customer service and in the event of an emergency helps significantly. An incident on a Melbourne Tokyo QANTAS flight highlighted this (there were no language speakers on board when the aircaft had to divert) , and as a result the Japanese language speakers were returned to these services.
In the last bid periods out of Perth, this bid period inclusive and particularly the Tokyo Perth Flight that this incident has just occured on, the flights have been crewed by Short Haul Perth based cabin crew -they are much cheaper to use on long flights with large transits (ie 80 hours). This change is a direct result of cost cutting (and their FAAA. In so doing there are no Japanese language speakers on board as part of the normal crew compliment. In all of QANTAS's wisdom, after the short haul crew on these services started serving Japanese meals for dinner instead of breakfast along with a few other stuff ups, they realised that yet again they needed language speakers on board. So QANTAS's short term money saving solution has been to have a short haul crew complimented by 1 long haul crew language speaker (instead of the minimum 2 normally used). This 1 extra crew member is purely for PAs etc and are treated as a "Sherpa".
In this particular incident, the Sherpa had gone sick in Japan.
The only language speaker on board was an off duty Long haul Perth based Japanese cabin crew who was paxing home from his family in Japan."
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What people like yourself [domestics] don't seem to understand re the international flying that you now do is that in rushing to undercut your INTERNATIONAL collegues you have set a precedent for the non payment of overseas allowance that is { for a scheduled carrier} a world first.
You got the work by undercutting the incumbents which makes you effectively SCABS.
Look up the definition and tell me I'm wrong.
Thai,SQ,LH,BA,AO etc, pay their aircrew allowances on arrival as does EVERY other scheduled carrier.
Many pay their crew FAR more than QF pays us at longhaul.
It's new and your excited about being overseas and perhaps you feel that your destination is enough compensation but wake up and smell the coffee.
YOU ARE AT WORK AND AWAY FROM HOME.
YOU HAVE UNDERCUT THE INCUMBENTS AND EFFECTIVELY UNDERMINED THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE.
YOU HAVE SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT.
YOU ARE BEING SCREWED.
I'd be talking en-masse with the shorthaul FAAA if I were you.
SYD-DRW-BOM should run out at around 15 hours on an A330 with no horizontal crew rest....................No Cashcard machines that I can recall in Mumbai....................
You may be interested to learn that there are serious medical and safety issues that occur in regular bases on our international flights.
The ability to comunicate with WHOLE CABINS of non english speaker passengers in these situations does come in handy.
Could you imagine what it would be like for a plane load of Japanese passengers departing Tokyo expecting a 9 hour flight to Perth suddenly finding themselves in an emergency decent with NO ONE on board able to communicate to them what is happening?
Qantas's choice to operate without them to save money is negligent in the extreme....................
The following is a cut and paste from the D&G forum. I assume it was from a pilot and it may help you to understand the need for language speaking FA's on international sectors.
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t was cost cutting regarding the language speakers on the PERTH TOKYO Flight.
Perth Longhaul have been flying the Tokyo trips for the best part of 3-4 years now. In nearly all cases 2 or 3 Japanese speakers are planned as crew - this obviously helps customer service and in the event of an emergency helps significantly. An incident on a Melbourne Tokyo QANTAS flight highlighted this (there were no language speakers on board when the aircaft had to divert) , and as a result the Japanese language speakers were returned to these services.
In the last bid periods out of Perth, this bid period inclusive and particularly the Tokyo Perth Flight that this incident has just occured on, the flights have been crewed by Short Haul Perth based cabin crew -they are much cheaper to use on long flights with large transits (ie 80 hours). This change is a direct result of cost cutting (and their FAAA. In so doing there are no Japanese language speakers on board as part of the normal crew compliment. In all of QANTAS's wisdom, after the short haul crew on these services started serving Japanese meals for dinner instead of breakfast along with a few other stuff ups, they realised that yet again they needed language speakers on board. So QANTAS's short term money saving solution has been to have a short haul crew complimented by 1 long haul crew language speaker (instead of the minimum 2 normally used). This 1 extra crew member is purely for PAs etc and are treated as a "Sherpa".
In this particular incident, the Sherpa had gone sick in Japan.
The only language speaker on board was an off duty Long haul Perth based Japanese cabin crew who was paxing home from his family in Japan."
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What people like yourself [domestics] don't seem to understand re the international flying that you now do is that in rushing to undercut your INTERNATIONAL collegues you have set a precedent for the non payment of overseas allowance that is { for a scheduled carrier} a world first.
You got the work by undercutting the incumbents which makes you effectively SCABS.
Look up the definition and tell me I'm wrong.
Thai,SQ,LH,BA,AO etc, pay their aircrew allowances on arrival as does EVERY other scheduled carrier.
Many pay their crew FAR more than QF pays us at longhaul.
It's new and your excited about being overseas and perhaps you feel that your destination is enough compensation but wake up and smell the coffee.
YOU ARE AT WORK AND AWAY FROM HOME.
YOU HAVE UNDERCUT THE INCUMBENTS AND EFFECTIVELY UNDERMINED THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE.
YOU HAVE SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT.
YOU ARE BEING SCREWED.
I'd be talking en-masse with the shorthaul FAAA if I were you.
SYD-DRW-BOM should run out at around 15 hours on an A330 with no horizontal crew rest....................No Cashcard machines that I can recall in Mumbai....................
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You're not completely accurate with what you say. Having flown longhaul for a couple of different airlines I can guarantee that not EVERY scheduled carrier pays aircrew allowances on arrival. BA don't, AO don't, many US carriers don't.
What you may not know is that shorthaul crew recieve a local currency payment at sign on for regional trips. So, there is no mad rush for cash machines on arrival!
In some cases, the DTA paid to shorthaul crew can exceed the allowance paid to a longhaul crew depending on the pairing.
As it stands, shorthaul crew are unable to operate the upcoming DRW/BOM trips since Mumbai is outside the allowed time zone change for regional flying. (Not to say that won't change in the new EBA)
When shorthaul crew voted on the last EBA and the Regional Flying Agreement I really don't think they were rubbing their hands together in glee at the opportunity to 'screw' their longhaul colleagues.
What Qantas as a company has done is to effectively pit division against division and let them fight it out among themselves - to the benefit of the company. And they have done it really well.
You only have to read through this thread to see it all too clearly!
So, rather than attacking each other - maybe we all need to start working together because the real threat to our current lifestyle and conditions isn't coming from other crew, its coming from management who are very effectively dividing and conquering
You're not completely accurate with what you say. Having flown longhaul for a couple of different airlines I can guarantee that not EVERY scheduled carrier pays aircrew allowances on arrival. BA don't, AO don't, many US carriers don't.
What you may not know is that shorthaul crew recieve a local currency payment at sign on for regional trips. So, there is no mad rush for cash machines on arrival!
In some cases, the DTA paid to shorthaul crew can exceed the allowance paid to a longhaul crew depending on the pairing.
As it stands, shorthaul crew are unable to operate the upcoming DRW/BOM trips since Mumbai is outside the allowed time zone change for regional flying. (Not to say that won't change in the new EBA)
When shorthaul crew voted on the last EBA and the Regional Flying Agreement I really don't think they were rubbing their hands together in glee at the opportunity to 'screw' their longhaul colleagues.
What Qantas as a company has done is to effectively pit division against division and let them fight it out among themselves - to the benefit of the company. And they have done it really well.
You only have to read through this thread to see it all too clearly!
So, rather than attacking each other - maybe we all need to start working together because the real threat to our current lifestyle and conditions isn't coming from other crew, its coming from management who are very effectively dividing and conquering
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SYD-DRW-BOM is a 14.35 duty and that’s not including any sign on or sign off time and assuming no delays. I tell you what all you short haulers out there, if they make you do this duty without slipping in DRW (which seems likely) then you are well and truly up **** creek and sold out by your union.
Most of the passengers on this flight are the rudest, most demanding, foul smelling individuals you will ever come across. At least by operating them ‘direct’ on a 747-300 you have room to move around because the flights are not full because of weight restriction, you have more toilets per passenger and an under floor crew rest. On an A330 Hyundai they will literally be a living hell. They will be full most of the time due to no weight restriction; you will have fewer toilets per passenger (wait to you have to clean a toilet on a Mumbai sector)no horizontal crew rest and the cabin stench will be unbearable, especially down the back with those narrow aisles with no where to hide.
I wish you the best of luck! My God you’re going to need it!
Most of the passengers on this flight are the rudest, most demanding, foul smelling individuals you will ever come across. At least by operating them ‘direct’ on a 747-300 you have room to move around because the flights are not full because of weight restriction, you have more toilets per passenger and an under floor crew rest. On an A330 Hyundai they will literally be a living hell. They will be full most of the time due to no weight restriction; you will have fewer toilets per passenger (wait to you have to clean a toilet on a Mumbai sector)no horizontal crew rest and the cabin stench will be unbearable, especially down the back with those narrow aisles with no where to hide.
I wish you the best of luck! My God you’re going to need it!
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OnQ,
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"So, rather than attacking each other - maybe we all need to start working together because the real threat to our current lifestyle and conditions isn't coming from other crew, its coming from management who are very effectively dividing and conquering"
I agree wholeheartedly.
The sooner both divisions of the FAAA present a united front to QF in their negotiations the better off we will all be.
cheers Mostie
P.S. BA most definately do get allowance as I've seen them withdraw them in cash on check in.
Plenty more than we get.
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"So, rather than attacking each other - maybe we all need to start working together because the real threat to our current lifestyle and conditions isn't coming from other crew, its coming from management who are very effectively dividing and conquering"
I agree wholeheartedly.
The sooner both divisions of the FAAA present a united front to QF in their negotiations the better off we will all be.
cheers Mostie
P.S. BA most definately do get allowance as I've seen them withdraw them in cash on check in.
Plenty more than we get.
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allowances
there are a number of airlines which issue special credit/debit cards to their crew (allowances paid in to their account). they can withdraw at each port at checkin as much local currency as they like at a set exchange rate. upon checking out they can return the rest of their local currency back onto there account. saves running around looking for a better exchange rate and having to carry various foreign currencies in their bags.
mostie/ and onq you are right as long as we have two unions getting "played" by qf there will always be a loser. and at the moment it is both divisions flight attendants. how could you fit both those union excecs egos into one effective representation?
thats another chapter, sorry sad novel!!!!!!!!
mostie/ and onq you are right as long as we have two unions getting "played" by qf there will always be a loser. and at the moment it is both divisions flight attendants. how could you fit both those union excecs egos into one effective representation?
thats another chapter, sorry sad novel!!!!!!!!
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FAAA....History
The two branches have already tried amalgamation.
It proved to be a dismal failure.
You had the absurd situation of shorthaul Ansett flight attendants making decisions affecting longhaul QF crew.
Personally I felt then that the union should be company based.
You will never have a united front from both divisions due to vested self interest,totally different cultures and a totally different view of what flying is all about.
The only similarity between the two is that we all work on aircraft.
That is where the similarity ends.
It proved to be a dismal failure.
You had the absurd situation of shorthaul Ansett flight attendants making decisions affecting longhaul QF crew.
Personally I felt then that the union should be company based.
You will never have a united front from both divisions due to vested self interest,totally different cultures and a totally different view of what flying is all about.
The only similarity between the two is that we all work on aircraft.
That is where the similarity ends.
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It would be great to see both sides reconcile, but what hope is there when the President of the FAAA Domestic is currently on the LHR base as a CSM.
If you dont believe me , here is the link.
http://www.faaadomestic.org.au/domes...al/qf09-05.htm
the treachery is unbelievable!
If you dont believe me , here is the link.
http://www.faaadomestic.org.au/domes...al/qf09-05.htm
the treachery is unbelievable!
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as i said
egos, egos, me, me and me. at the end of the day we are ALL "safety professionals first and trolley dollies second" as far as i am concerened there is no difference just a few individuals make it hard for everyone. in years gone by both job describtions were very different. no longer
and firepussy ansett is well and truly 6 feet under.
and firepussy ansett is well and truly 6 feet under.
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Have to agree with the Aus crew after reading this
Oil slick
By PETER GOSNELL
September 09, 2005
FOUNTAINING oil prices threaten to strip earnings margins at Qantas to the bone.
It's an outcome that will almost certainly impel chief executive Geoff Dixon to take the axe to staff as he thinks about earning another pay rise.
Last year, Mr Dixon's pay rose 3 per cent to $3.7 million.
As Australia's biggest airline released its annual report yesterday, it said higher fuel prices will have a "substantial" impact on the company and lead to lower earnings in 2006.
Qantas is cutting costs and lifting fare surcharges to limit the impact on earnings of a $1.25 billion rise in fuel costs this year, chairwoman Margaret Jackson said in Sydney-based Qantas' annual report.
"The extraordinary cost of fuel will have a substantial ongoing impact on the company," Ms Jackson said.
"Qantas does not expect to achieve the same levels of profitability in the current financial year."
Qantas raised its fuel surcharge a fourth time last month, with each domestic fare loaded with an extra $26 and international fares an extra $75 each for tickets sold after September 2.
"Fuel surcharges will contribute to partially offset this increase," she said. "However, we still face a $650 million shortfall at current prices compared to last year."
The chairwoman's warning came as Qantas said Mr Dixon had picked up a 3 per cent pay rise for the 2004-05 financial year, taking his total remuneration to $3.7 million.
Mr Dixon, 65, received $1.9 million in salary, the rest as bonuses and other benefits.
Last month he reported a 5 per cent gain in second-half net profit, reflecting cost cuts and the airline's hedging against fuel prices, which helped avoid losses incurred by rivals like Thai Airways.
Cathay Pacific, Asia's second most profitable carrier, incurred a drop in first-half net profit, blamed on soaring fuel costs.
Virgin Blue, Qantas' only domestic rival, has cut its forecast, citing fuel costs and competition.
Mr Dixon cut 15 per cent of Qantas management jobs last month.
He also plans to jettison 60 Sydney-based maintenance workers to help Qantas find $3 billion in cost savings by 2007-08.
Qantas shares put on another 4c to $3.27 yesterday
By PETER GOSNELL
September 09, 2005
FOUNTAINING oil prices threaten to strip earnings margins at Qantas to the bone.
It's an outcome that will almost certainly impel chief executive Geoff Dixon to take the axe to staff as he thinks about earning another pay rise.
Last year, Mr Dixon's pay rose 3 per cent to $3.7 million.
As Australia's biggest airline released its annual report yesterday, it said higher fuel prices will have a "substantial" impact on the company and lead to lower earnings in 2006.
Qantas is cutting costs and lifting fare surcharges to limit the impact on earnings of a $1.25 billion rise in fuel costs this year, chairwoman Margaret Jackson said in Sydney-based Qantas' annual report.
"The extraordinary cost of fuel will have a substantial ongoing impact on the company," Ms Jackson said.
"Qantas does not expect to achieve the same levels of profitability in the current financial year."
Qantas raised its fuel surcharge a fourth time last month, with each domestic fare loaded with an extra $26 and international fares an extra $75 each for tickets sold after September 2.
"Fuel surcharges will contribute to partially offset this increase," she said. "However, we still face a $650 million shortfall at current prices compared to last year."
The chairwoman's warning came as Qantas said Mr Dixon had picked up a 3 per cent pay rise for the 2004-05 financial year, taking his total remuneration to $3.7 million.
Mr Dixon, 65, received $1.9 million in salary, the rest as bonuses and other benefits.
Last month he reported a 5 per cent gain in second-half net profit, reflecting cost cuts and the airline's hedging against fuel prices, which helped avoid losses incurred by rivals like Thai Airways.
Cathay Pacific, Asia's second most profitable carrier, incurred a drop in first-half net profit, blamed on soaring fuel costs.
Virgin Blue, Qantas' only domestic rival, has cut its forecast, citing fuel costs and competition.
Mr Dixon cut 15 per cent of Qantas management jobs last month.
He also plans to jettison 60 Sydney-based maintenance workers to help Qantas find $3 billion in cost savings by 2007-08.
Qantas shares put on another 4c to $3.27 yesterday
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peanut poosher,
a cut and paste for you from the D&G forum.
"So the outgoing CEO of BA was making about one-fifth of what the CEO of QF makes...and the CEO of QF makes more than the CEO's of BA, CX, SQ, Thai and Malaysian combined.
I know what this tells me...sell QF shares."
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How was it you described dixon and his cronies?
"New style of airline management", wasn't it???
Indeed...................
Screw the airline.
Screw your staff.
Maximise short term profits and bail with pockets and cheeks full before the **** hits the fan.
The stench from those up to their necks in the trough is overpowering.
a cut and paste for you from the D&G forum.
"So the outgoing CEO of BA was making about one-fifth of what the CEO of QF makes...and the CEO of QF makes more than the CEO's of BA, CX, SQ, Thai and Malaysian combined.
I know what this tells me...sell QF shares."
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How was it you described dixon and his cronies?
"New style of airline management", wasn't it???
Indeed...................
Screw the airline.
Screw your staff.
Maximise short term profits and bail with pockets and cheeks full before the **** hits the fan.
The stench from those up to their necks in the trough is overpowering.
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You sad bastard
I got in from the www.dailytelegraph.com and said in my post I agreed with the Aus crew about the greed and wage issue.
Stick it
Name the factual source showing he earnt more than BA,SQ and the others you have touted or is it another one of your dreams.
Yes it's high and yes it pisses me off but is about 3 million behind telstra and about 2 million behind AMP CEO.
Once again a hate crew member doesn't understand a post that was support.
Maybe speedie you've been sampling too much of your product.
Stick it
Name the factual source showing he earnt more than BA,SQ and the others you have touted or is it another one of your dreams.
Yes it's high and yes it pisses me off but is about 3 million behind telstra and about 2 million behind AMP CEO.
Once again a hate crew member doesn't understand a post that was support.
Maybe speedie you've been sampling too much of your product.
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Peanut Puncher,
It astounds me that you could even contemplate defending our greedy self absorbed bonus driven management!
Do you really believe what you write?
Once again, why are you defending them, they have destroyed the QF culture that made this airline what it is today! so they can line their own pockets!
It astounds me that you could even contemplate defending our greedy self absorbed bonus driven management!
Do you really believe what you write?
Once again, why are you defending them, they have destroyed the QF culture that made this airline what it is today! so they can line their own pockets!
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The following is a cut and paste from the Sydney Morning Herald dated 9/9/05 outlining payments made to our beloved trough feeders.
OINK
It's nice to see Qantas's chief doomsayer, Geoff Dixon, has still managed to earn himself a hearty pay increase of 6.4 per cent - that's $391,401.
Despite Dicko's repeated cries about Qantas's need to slash jobs in order to remain profitable, he had a modest $6.48 million pay packet last financial year.
This was helped along by the increase in Dicko's "equity benefits" for the year to $1.25 million - all despite the recent slide in the Flying Kangaroo's share price.
However, Dicko missed out on the $1000 bonus Qantas handed out to each of its non-executive employees recently. So too did his chief numbers man, Peter Gregg, on $3.63 million.
One wonders if Dicko was thinking about himself at the airline's recent results when he exclaimed how Qantas employees should be grateful they had a job.
"In some ways, although we don't expect to get a thanks, they should be at least saying, 'Gee, for an industry that's in so much turmoil, we've still got decent jobs'," Mr Dixon said.
Maybe this sentiment could be extended to all of Dicko's senior management team, who bettered the 3 per cent annual pay rise most of Qantas rank and file have achieved lately.
Qantas executive general manager John Borghetti managed to lift his package 18 per cent to $1.84 million and Jetstar boss Alan Joyce pocketed a very low-cost $1.42 million."
Corporate criminals indeed peanut puncher...................
OINK
It's nice to see Qantas's chief doomsayer, Geoff Dixon, has still managed to earn himself a hearty pay increase of 6.4 per cent - that's $391,401.
Despite Dicko's repeated cries about Qantas's need to slash jobs in order to remain profitable, he had a modest $6.48 million pay packet last financial year.
This was helped along by the increase in Dicko's "equity benefits" for the year to $1.25 million - all despite the recent slide in the Flying Kangaroo's share price.
However, Dicko missed out on the $1000 bonus Qantas handed out to each of its non-executive employees recently. So too did his chief numbers man, Peter Gregg, on $3.63 million.
One wonders if Dicko was thinking about himself at the airline's recent results when he exclaimed how Qantas employees should be grateful they had a job.
"In some ways, although we don't expect to get a thanks, they should be at least saying, 'Gee, for an industry that's in so much turmoil, we've still got decent jobs'," Mr Dixon said.
Maybe this sentiment could be extended to all of Dicko's senior management team, who bettered the 3 per cent annual pay rise most of Qantas rank and file have achieved lately.
Qantas executive general manager John Borghetti managed to lift his package 18 per cent to $1.84 million and Jetstar boss Alan Joyce pocketed a very low-cost $1.42 million."
Corporate criminals indeed peanut puncher...................
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Well it cant be the Poms,no UK crew have a C1D visa for the states,so they cannot fly there as crew.Whoever thought that up was very ill-informed.And no pro-golfer,I aint havin a whale of a time.I only came up here to get permanent work,or I would have been fired along with my fellow fixed-term longhaul colleagues.Cant wait for this contract to be over,may not even wait that long.But am over people like qflhr,the locals cant even manage to meet a service signature as they are too busy whinging about the pay(who signs a contract without first understanding their pay and conditions??????) and how sick they get from flying.So far,they are the softest people I have ever met,all sick,all the time.They certainly like their go-sick-upline-and-pax-home-sectors 
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That's no good Cart. There's nothing worse then working with lazy bludges. Its hard yakka working those long Europe sectors as well all know but you know the old saying ‘whinging Pom’? Well it sounds like you’re stuck with them day in and day out.
Added to your nightmare is them going sick up line leaving you short crewed for your return leg to LHR. I’m afraid it’s only going to get worse next year. At the end of March 2006 the QF15/16 will terminate as the QF29/30 goes daily. So all those long slips in HKG & SIN that have been occurring will vanish. Watch the sick leave then go even further through the roof.
What the company doesn't realise is this going to be an on going problem. The UK nationals will work for a while, take lots of sick leave, have a winch, do a lousy job and then move on to another job, so they’ll be continually recruiting. The service will always be **** and you’ll always be picking up the slack! Imagine what’s going to happen when all the Aussies come home at the end of their contracts. (And I highly doubt many Aussie crew will go up there for the 2nd round) The service and base will fall apart!
Anyway according to Peanut Puncher everything is rosy! Too funny!
Hope you make it though the 2 years Cart, you would have certainly earned your right to have a permanent Australian based position even though I'm sure you deserved one in the 1st place!
Added to your nightmare is them going sick up line leaving you short crewed for your return leg to LHR. I’m afraid it’s only going to get worse next year. At the end of March 2006 the QF15/16 will terminate as the QF29/30 goes daily. So all those long slips in HKG & SIN that have been occurring will vanish. Watch the sick leave then go even further through the roof.
What the company doesn't realise is this going to be an on going problem. The UK nationals will work for a while, take lots of sick leave, have a winch, do a lousy job and then move on to another job, so they’ll be continually recruiting. The service will always be **** and you’ll always be picking up the slack! Imagine what’s going to happen when all the Aussies come home at the end of their contracts. (And I highly doubt many Aussie crew will go up there for the 2nd round) The service and base will fall apart!
Anyway according to Peanut Puncher everything is rosy! Too funny!
Hope you make it though the 2 years Cart, you would have certainly earned your right to have a permanent Australian based position even though I'm sure you deserved one in the 1st place!
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