Qantas; the thread.
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I'm in exactly the same position as you Suelle, I asked and was told my application would be presented to an Executive Team and I would hear after that, however I have not yet been asked to complete a medical.
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Yeah i am the same as you except i went for group asses in brisbane.
My references have been contacted about 2 week after i received the email sayin they would be, but that was about 3 weeks ago now.
I spose its just another waiting game......
Yeah i am the same as you except i went for group asses in brisbane.
My references have been contacted about 2 week after i received the email sayin they would be, but that was about 3 weeks ago now.
I spose its just another waiting game......
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Hi Folks!
Just curious to find out if any one has been called up to start the training session this month? I'am on the edge at the moment!!! How long does it take to receive a call???
Rollz
Just curious to find out if any one has been called up to start the training session this month? I'am on the edge at the moment!!! How long does it take to receive a call???
Rollz
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"How long does it take to receive the call?"
i waited one year exactly on the shortlist to get the call, i know two girls who waited on the shortlist for three years before they got the call. You have to realise this is QF and there are a lot of things happening around the place, but just a bit of info for you cos i know what it's like to be in your position. I was talking to a CSM last Sunday and he said that his partner received "the call" and is due to start training today in MEL for the next group of casuals to come into Perth. When we were having interviews for permanency at the end of Jan, 30 or so people were interviewed, i don't know if this group were offered casual of if this CSM's partner went through with you guys?
just thought i'd let you know.
i waited one year exactly on the shortlist to get the call, i know two girls who waited on the shortlist for three years before they got the call. You have to realise this is QF and there are a lot of things happening around the place, but just a bit of info for you cos i know what it's like to be in your position. I was talking to a CSM last Sunday and he said that his partner received "the call" and is due to start training today in MEL for the next group of casuals to come into Perth. When we were having interviews for permanency at the end of Jan, 30 or so people were interviewed, i don't know if this group were offered casual of if this CSM's partner went through with you guys?
just thought i'd let you know.
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Excuse me for being naive....
But WHY?? is Qantas recruiting when it looks as if the last lot of fixed termers will be let go. GOOD hard working dedicated people. Flying is being shipped off shore to cheaper alternatives!! What are these interviews for MAM casuals?
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This is standard Qantas procedure, they cannot retain the fixed term crew as this would require them to be converted to permanent. There is currently a "recruitment freeze" on (which doesnt effect the employment of MAM Casuals, Thai, NZ or UK Crew OF COURSE) and as we all know permanent employees cost far more then ditching the current fixed termers and starting over again. From memory it has been some years since Qantas has employed (or converted) people into permanent positions in long haul and in short haul the last crew employed into permanent positions was way back in March of 2003.
This is not fair, but thats Qantas. The only people that have any certainty of their future and careers are those crew based in Auckland, Bangkok and London.
You have to understand Qantas is a struggling company that needs to ensure it makes a $1billion profit this year, so that senior executives achieve their bonus' at your expense.
Just out of interest, this is from www.faaa.net
1 March 2005
Attention All Victorian Long haul Flight Attendants
VIC BRANCH NEWS
Loss of Flying to Auckland Based Flight Attendants
The Victorian Branch is both appalled and disillusioned at the latest Company decision to remove 4 positions for Melbourne based Flight attendants from the LA trips. When advised of this action through the Planning and Scheduling Committee, we strenuously objected to this decision, highlighting the severe negative impact it would have on the base, in particular the escalation in reserve line rotation, the financial loss to members through the removal of tradition flying and the overall loss of stability in lifestyle.
We were told that these negatives would be negligible, as the situation would be managed through the directed leave program and base transfers. This is simply not the case. Given Melbourne was, on the Company's own admission one of the most profitable bases, providing above average customer satisfaction in all areas, it is difficult to comprehend the motivation behind this demoralising action, which at best will deliver minimal cost savings to Qantas. It would appear the reward for excellence is another backhand.
Whilst we are incensed at this decision, we are bound by legislative requirements and EBA Agreements, consequently there is little action we can take. In fact, Management, advised me at the last Planning and Scheduling Meeting that we did not own the flying and it would be allocated by the Company at their discretion.
Over the last 6 months we have seen several decisions which continue to marginalise the contribution of Melbourne Longhaul Flight Attendants, and we fail to see how these short term cost cutting exercises and flawed resource management can benefit the Company's Sustainable Futures program in the long term.
I urge ALL Flight Attendants to write to senior Mamgement from the CEO down, emphasising your individual concerns. We all want Qantas to be the most profitable and best Airline in the world, but to do this, you must make management realise that they must have incentives for employees, not regression.
This is standard Qantas procedure, they cannot retain the fixed term crew as this would require them to be converted to permanent. There is currently a "recruitment freeze" on (which doesnt effect the employment of MAM Casuals, Thai, NZ or UK Crew OF COURSE) and as we all know permanent employees cost far more then ditching the current fixed termers and starting over again. From memory it has been some years since Qantas has employed (or converted) people into permanent positions in long haul and in short haul the last crew employed into permanent positions was way back in March of 2003.
This is not fair, but thats Qantas. The only people that have any certainty of their future and careers are those crew based in Auckland, Bangkok and London.
You have to understand Qantas is a struggling company that needs to ensure it makes a $1billion profit this year, so that senior executives achieve their bonus' at your expense.
Just out of interest, this is from www.faaa.net
1 March 2005
Attention All Victorian Long haul Flight Attendants
VIC BRANCH NEWS
Loss of Flying to Auckland Based Flight Attendants
The Victorian Branch is both appalled and disillusioned at the latest Company decision to remove 4 positions for Melbourne based Flight attendants from the LA trips. When advised of this action through the Planning and Scheduling Committee, we strenuously objected to this decision, highlighting the severe negative impact it would have on the base, in particular the escalation in reserve line rotation, the financial loss to members through the removal of tradition flying and the overall loss of stability in lifestyle.
We were told that these negatives would be negligible, as the situation would be managed through the directed leave program and base transfers. This is simply not the case. Given Melbourne was, on the Company's own admission one of the most profitable bases, providing above average customer satisfaction in all areas, it is difficult to comprehend the motivation behind this demoralising action, which at best will deliver minimal cost savings to Qantas. It would appear the reward for excellence is another backhand.
Whilst we are incensed at this decision, we are bound by legislative requirements and EBA Agreements, consequently there is little action we can take. In fact, Management, advised me at the last Planning and Scheduling Meeting that we did not own the flying and it would be allocated by the Company at their discretion.
Over the last 6 months we have seen several decisions which continue to marginalise the contribution of Melbourne Longhaul Flight Attendants, and we fail to see how these short term cost cutting exercises and flawed resource management can benefit the Company's Sustainable Futures program in the long term.
I urge ALL Flight Attendants to write to senior Mamgement from the CEO down, emphasising your individual concerns. We all want Qantas to be the most profitable and best Airline in the world, but to do this, you must make management realise that they must have incentives for employees, not regression.
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I was told by MAM that Qantas did not conduct a recruitment recently for the current/upcoming training sessions.
They are just training all the people from the shortlist and having them ready for utilisation.
I was also told that the current training sessions may be the last training sessions to be conducted this year.
Rollz
They are just training all the people from the shortlist and having them ready for utilisation.
I was also told that the current training sessions may be the last training sessions to be conducted this year.
Rollz
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I was told at my panel interview that there were presently no positions available, and we were being interviewed for a short list.
So I guess there is no hurry.
I have heard some people have had a "no thankyou" email.
And I know people with interviews at the end of April so I guess we just have to be patient.
The 11 month contracts in Sydney and Melbourne will be up shortly, so who knows where that will lead. Given the London base opening and so much South East Asian flying going to shorthaul, one can only speculate what movement to expect.
A girlfriend working as cabin crew in longhaul tells me they are overstaffed. (One individuals opinion).
Not the greatest of news.
My apologies.
But we have to be realistic to avoid disappointment.
So I guess there is no hurry.
I have heard some people have had a "no thankyou" email.
And I know people with interviews at the end of April so I guess we just have to be patient.
The 11 month contracts in Sydney and Melbourne will be up shortly, so who knows where that will lead. Given the London base opening and so much South East Asian flying going to shorthaul, one can only speculate what movement to expect.
A girlfriend working as cabin crew in longhaul tells me they are overstaffed. (One individuals opinion).
Not the greatest of news.
My apologies.
But we have to be realistic to avoid disappointment.
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Excess Crew
CABIN SECURE
Your friend is right :Longhaul have excess crew but only in some categories.in other categories..CSM and CSS they are short.Forward planning of manpower at QF has always been abysmal
Your friend is right :Longhaul have excess crew but only in some categories.in other categories..CSM and CSS they are short.Forward planning of manpower at QF has always been abysmal
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Thanks guys... i think thats what i wanted to hear!
I was just hoping i wouldnt get 'no news is bad news...'
Im in no rush. I mean itd be great if it happened now, but if it doesnt, thats ok too. I thought we'd be in for a long wait, but i really wish that they hadnt said 'yeah, you'll hear in 4 weeks!'. I wish theyd stop telling us stuff like that when realisitically they probably knew they werent gonna meet that.
I spose we can keep wishing all we want but it aint gonna make anything happen!
anywho.... im off to my boring boring job.... hahahaha
jesski
I was just hoping i wouldnt get 'no news is bad news...'
Im in no rush. I mean itd be great if it happened now, but if it doesnt, thats ok too. I thought we'd be in for a long wait, but i really wish that they hadnt said 'yeah, you'll hear in 4 weeks!'. I wish theyd stop telling us stuff like that when realisitically they probably knew they werent gonna meet that.
I spose we can keep wishing all we want but it aint gonna make anything happen!
anywho.... im off to my boring boring job.... hahahaha
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Hi!!!
You'll learn not to believe QF when they say things like you'll hear in 4 weeks", believe it when you see it.
Don't forget that they already have training school's for the next lot of casuals already in training. The last group of casuals going to Perth started training a week or so ago. There are also a lot of other things happening at the moment like the downsizing of the Perth long haul base, so they have to work out what's happening with all of those crew?
just be patient, good things come to those who wait.
Oz
You'll learn not to believe QF when they say things like you'll hear in 4 weeks", believe it when you see it.
Don't forget that they already have training school's for the next lot of casuals already in training. The last group of casuals going to Perth started training a week or so ago. There are also a lot of other things happening at the moment like the downsizing of the Perth long haul base, so they have to work out what's happening with all of those crew?
just be patient, good things come to those who wait.
Oz
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Well....The Waiting Game is FINALLY over for me!!!!
I got the call today to commence training on April 11! I am lost for words. Really excited!! I hope that those of you who are still waiting get the CALL soon! 
RollzRoyce
I got the call today to commence training on April 11! I am lost for words. Really excited!! I hope that those of you who are still waiting get the CALL soon!
RollzRoyce
