Qantas; the thread.
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i dunno how many others, they just told me be here at 4.30 etc etc and i didnt see anyone else except for the guy after me, but i finished early. I think they were actually conducting 2 interviews at a time, and overlapping them if u know what i mean.
Well i used to be in perth... but im a goldy girl now. Moved here from perth 2 yrs ago due to dads job when ansett went under... but i was still in school then and hadn't even thought of being cabin crew then!
i dunno how many others, they just told me be here at 4.30 etc etc and i didnt see anyone else except for the guy after me, but i finished early. I think they were actually conducting 2 interviews at a time, and overlapping them if u know what i mean.
Well i used to be in perth... but im a goldy girl now. Moved here from perth 2 yrs ago due to dads job when ansett went under... but i was still in school then and hadn't even thought of being cabin crew then!
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QANTAS SUCKS
I can't believe that Qantas is now interviewing again for more shortlists!!
I was one of the strike breaker crew, I went to my panel interview and got a letter saying it was successful and I was now on a shortlist for another 6 months. More waiting around - is it just me or does Qantas seem to think they can just call you up and have you drop everything at the drop of hat for them then you end up sitting around for months not hearing anything.
What makes them think they are so important that they can just put everyone on a shelf and just pick them up when THEY are ready???? You almost have to put your life on hold for them on the hope you get a phone call!
I am so sick of Qantas and it is a company I will never have anything to do with ever again! I was happy at first with all the outcomes but now it's just more waiting and waiting and waiting and I'm fed up with the way they treat potential employees.
And, the pay in LHR is 10 grand less then what you get in Aus.
Only £11, 000 a year!!! And they expect you to survive in London on that joke of a wage!
PF
I was one of the strike breaker crew, I went to my panel interview and got a letter saying it was successful and I was now on a shortlist for another 6 months. More waiting around - is it just me or does Qantas seem to think they can just call you up and have you drop everything at the drop of hat for them then you end up sitting around for months not hearing anything.
What makes them think they are so important that they can just put everyone on a shelf and just pick them up when THEY are ready???? You almost have to put your life on hold for them on the hope you get a phone call!
I am so sick of Qantas and it is a company I will never have anything to do with ever again! I was happy at first with all the outcomes but now it's just more waiting and waiting and waiting and I'm fed up with the way they treat potential employees.
And, the pay in LHR is 10 grand less then what you get in Aus.
Only £11, 000 a year!!! And they expect you to survive in London on that joke of a wage!
PF
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Paris Flyer!
When we interviewed two years ago, we went through the whole Qantas recruitment process, not the Adecco process like recently. We were on the shortlist for a year before we got a call and offered casual. Qantas do expect you to drop everything at the drop of a hat, some people given only a couple of days notice, this happens on more than one occassion. The way of thinking is that if you're not willing to drop everything then the next person on the list probably will. They will always have people willing to do the job no matter how long it takes or how little notice they give, so you're not the first to be kept waiting. You're actually lucky that you were offered ANYTHING, thousands of people would've loved the opportunity to have gone to London to work for QF pay or no pay, plenty of people that were on the shortlist for over a year and then sent the unsuccesfull email!
It's obviously your choice not to have anything more to do with QF, but waiting is the name of the game unfortunately (& trust me, i know about the whole waiting thing) and as said, if you're not willing to do it then there are thousands of people which are.
Good luck with whatever you choose to do!
Oz
When we interviewed two years ago, we went through the whole Qantas recruitment process, not the Adecco process like recently. We were on the shortlist for a year before we got a call and offered casual. Qantas do expect you to drop everything at the drop of a hat, some people given only a couple of days notice, this happens on more than one occassion. The way of thinking is that if you're not willing to drop everything then the next person on the list probably will. They will always have people willing to do the job no matter how long it takes or how little notice they give, so you're not the first to be kept waiting. You're actually lucky that you were offered ANYTHING, thousands of people would've loved the opportunity to have gone to London to work for QF pay or no pay, plenty of people that were on the shortlist for over a year and then sent the unsuccesfull email!
It's obviously your choice not to have anything more to do with QF, but waiting is the name of the game unfortunately (& trust me, i know about the whole waiting thing) and as said, if you're not willing to do it then there are thousands of people which are.
Good luck with whatever you choose to do!
Oz
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I had an interview recently and saw at least 5 other people coming or going while I waited. I had friends interviewed early last week and know people with interviews in February as well as a friend with an interview date in April.
In other words, I think every man and his dog got a panel interview.
So who knows?
The A380 comes online next year so there is a logical possibility with movement within the Qantas cabin crew ranks, that there will be positions available through most areas.
It makes sense that transfer lists are attended to initially and then the company can review where F/A's are needed.
ie. Regional, longhaul or casual.
Then no doubt those on the short list will get calls after Qantas have worked out how many crew are actually needed, and where.
My guess is that most of what will be on offer will be casual. With the ability of Jetstar and Qantaslink being able to migrate to mainline I'm sure most slots within mainline will be filled.
However that is only my opinion. We have all seen how highly unpredictable our industry has been in recent years.
And I don't profess to being to being clairvoyant!
In other words, I think every man and his dog got a panel interview.
So who knows?
The A380 comes online next year so there is a logical possibility with movement within the Qantas cabin crew ranks, that there will be positions available through most areas.
It makes sense that transfer lists are attended to initially and then the company can review where F/A's are needed.
ie. Regional, longhaul or casual.
Then no doubt those on the short list will get calls after Qantas have worked out how many crew are actually needed, and where.
My guess is that most of what will be on offer will be casual. With the ability of Jetstar and Qantaslink being able to migrate to mainline I'm sure most slots within mainline will be filled.
However that is only my opinion. We have all seen how highly unpredictable our industry has been in recent years.
And I don't profess to being to being clairvoyant!
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It doesnt quite work like that. In regard to Jet* and Qantaslink they are only guaranteed a certain number of positions within a 6 month period BUT QF have to recruit externally for permanent positions and this applies only to short haul.
You are right though, Im sure there will be positions available in the coming year, with the LHR base opening and crew leaving to join that base, new aircraft etc etc. However, the type of positions offered will be anyone's guess be it fixed term, casual or permanent.
Paris_flyer
Im surprised at how quickly your attitude changes, maybe you are not quite ready for QF just yet, if you cant handle a bit of a wait on the shortlist.
You should bear in mind though that people waited 18 months on a short list only to be given the thanks but no thanks letter and within weeks QF recruited again. It's a sad fact, but thats how QF does business, you either get use to it or move on.
It doesnt quite work like that. In regard to Jet* and Qantaslink they are only guaranteed a certain number of positions within a 6 month period BUT QF have to recruit externally for permanent positions and this applies only to short haul.
You are right though, Im sure there will be positions available in the coming year, with the LHR base opening and crew leaving to join that base, new aircraft etc etc. However, the type of positions offered will be anyone's guess be it fixed term, casual or permanent.
Paris_flyer
Im surprised at how quickly your attitude changes, maybe you are not quite ready for QF just yet, if you cant handle a bit of a wait on the shortlist.
You should bear in mind though that people waited 18 months on a short list only to be given the thanks but no thanks letter and within weeks QF recruited again. It's a sad fact, but thats how QF does business, you either get use to it or move on.
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Dear Paris_flyer.
while i am completely apposed to "strike breakers" ill not pass judgement on somebody i dont know. Maybe now however because Qantas have stuffed you around, and countless others for that matter, you might now realise one of the reasons we wanted to strike. It was to protect our current job conditions and give security to our future employment. Qantas has an arrogant management structure, they dont give a damn about potential or current employees because they know they will always have the applicants to fill the postions. Its in all our interestes to have our conditions kept as best they can be, believe me, its in your interest as well if you do ever get in. But if your desparate to fly for them then apply for London. That base is a shining example of just how they want all flight attendant to be paid. My friend just few to London yesterday all the way from sydney,and attended an interview and was told by the "panel" a postion for her looked promising, then today, they called to say she was rejected. while a " strike breaker' wearing fish nets and knee high white boots got through to the second interview stage next monday, I really dont understand their logic !! . The just screw people all the time without consideration.
while i am completely apposed to "strike breakers" ill not pass judgement on somebody i dont know. Maybe now however because Qantas have stuffed you around, and countless others for that matter, you might now realise one of the reasons we wanted to strike. It was to protect our current job conditions and give security to our future employment. Qantas has an arrogant management structure, they dont give a damn about potential or current employees because they know they will always have the applicants to fill the postions. Its in all our interestes to have our conditions kept as best they can be, believe me, its in your interest as well if you do ever get in. But if your desparate to fly for them then apply for London. That base is a shining example of just how they want all flight attendant to be paid. My friend just few to London yesterday all the way from sydney,and attended an interview and was told by the "panel" a postion for her looked promising, then today, they called to say she was rejected. while a " strike breaker' wearing fish nets and knee high white boots got through to the second interview stage next monday, I really dont understand their logic !! . The just screw people all the time without consideration.
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They treat you badly before you start working with them and unfortunetly it doesnt get much better once you do start..I hate to say it but Qantas isnt such a great place to work.I was so excited when I started now I cant begin to tell you how dissapointed I am. Sorry!!
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Just heard a rumour that the people that are having panel interviews at the moment are going to be on a different short-list to the people that did the training. Don't know if that is a bad thing for the people that did the training or bad for the people that didn't.
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Perhaps they should go back to the ORIGINAL shortlist that they treated soooo well, before they chucked us all out so they could employ a bunch of strikebreakers?!
Maybe if the rumour is true, you will all know how we feel?!
Maybe if the rumour is true, you will all know how we feel?!
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Jesski,
I think Cart Tart is referring to those who were on a shortlist, left dangling for 12-18months (or more!) then told "sorry, we don't need you", only to see Qantas turning around before that shortlist was in the bin a couple of seconds (you know what i mean!) and hiring a new lot - who turned out to be 'strikebreakers'.
It's crap that they had all the criteria and waited around on a shortlist and then were dumped- and others who applied AFTER them were employed first. That's what CT means.... right???
Anyway if you search for it, the thread is quite long and you'll see what they're talking about.
Sky
I think Cart Tart is referring to those who were on a shortlist, left dangling for 12-18months (or more!) then told "sorry, we don't need you", only to see Qantas turning around before that shortlist was in the bin a couple of seconds (you know what i mean!) and hiring a new lot - who turned out to be 'strikebreakers'.
It's crap that they had all the criteria and waited around on a shortlist and then were dumped- and others who applied AFTER them were employed first. That's what CT means.... right???
Anyway if you search for it, the thread is quite long and you'll see what they're talking about.
Sky
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Cart_tart, my feelings remain with you and all the other dumped shortlisters. It is with great pleasure I notice your discontent directed toward the company and not the individuals who are interviewing this time round, many who were not in the system at the time of your (phoney) recruitment drive!
My wish is that QF had not have wasted all that expense stringing you all along for so long, only to cast you out, then have another period of recruitment! I can only imagine the feelings you all feel.
Keep it up all! Keep smiling, the cabin crew job god will smile on us all I am sure!
JB
My wish is that QF had not have wasted all that expense stringing you all along for so long, only to cast you out, then have another period of recruitment! I can only imagine the feelings you all feel.
Keep it up all! Keep smiling, the cabin crew job god will smile on us all I am sure!
JB
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Had my panel interview 3 weeks ago, went quite well I thought, then got a call from QF HR saying that they were having trouble getting in contact with some of my referees (one was only in a meeting!) and seemed in a hurry to do so.
Then received an e-mail last weeks letting me know that my application had progressed and I would expect to find a result in around 4 weeks.
Hope this helps anyone waiting, I'm not in a hurry at all and what happens happens as far as I'm concerned.
Good luck to all!
YT
Then received an e-mail last weeks letting me know that my application had progressed and I would expect to find a result in around 4 weeks.
Hope this helps anyone waiting, I'm not in a hurry at all and what happens happens as far as I'm concerned.
Good luck to all!
YT
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I just got the same email today. Does this mean we got through the panel interview?
CT
ooops sorry.. i was misunderstood. My bad. Of COURSE the shortlist people should get to go first, no doubt about that. I agree entirely.
However i was replying to the posts by amongthestars and cropdust... i realise now i was probably wrong but at the time i thought they were referring to the people who were hired at the end of last year as 'strikebreakers'. I see no reason why the people who were interviewed then an got through, accepted and then trained for those positions should go before the people who interviewed at the same time for the SAME positions yet didnt hear anything until recently should go first. get me? Im confusing myself..... sorry if i am wrong and totally misunderstood everything.
I just got the same email today. Does this mean we got through the panel interview?
CT
ooops sorry.. i was misunderstood. My bad. Of COURSE the shortlist people should get to go first, no doubt about that. I agree entirely.
However i was replying to the posts by amongthestars and cropdust... i realise now i was probably wrong but at the time i thought they were referring to the people who were hired at the end of last year as 'strikebreakers'. I see no reason why the people who were interviewed then an got through, accepted and then trained for those positions should go before the people who interviewed at the same time for the SAME positions yet didnt hear anything until recently should go first. get me? Im confusing myself..... sorry if i am wrong and totally misunderstood everything.
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Just thought i'd share a story I heard from a friend today.
She received a call from QF today asking her why she was late for her panel interview, her response to the lady was "what are you talking about?? She explained to the lady that she had been for an assesment centre for a long haul position but didn't know anything about a panel interview. Obviously QF stuffed up suprise suprise.
Anyway she asked the lady why should she give up a days pay to go for an interview to be put on a list that will most likely lead to nothing after being kept hanging for the next 12 months. Her exact words " wake up to yourself lady, i'd rather wipe arse for the rest of my life (she is a nurse)then work for a company as screwed up as Qantas"
Pretty funny i thought.
cheers
wg
She received a call from QF today asking her why she was late for her panel interview, her response to the lady was "what are you talking about?? She explained to the lady that she had been for an assesment centre for a long haul position but didn't know anything about a panel interview. Obviously QF stuffed up suprise suprise.
Anyway she asked the lady why should she give up a days pay to go for an interview to be put on a list that will most likely lead to nothing after being kept hanging for the next 12 months. Her exact words " wake up to yourself lady, i'd rather wipe arse for the rest of my life (she is a nurse)then work for a company as screwed up as Qantas"
Pretty funny i thought.
cheers
wg