Qantas: Invitiation: Long Haul Fixed Term Flight Attendants Opportunities
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petriboy and personal messages
Only u know what u want from life, make those desicions yourself, this is a forum.
For all of those sending me personal messages please look back at past posts. I am not Cabin Crew, so why all the questions as to how i got in, ask the forum many CC here. Although by the info I get in my P M don't listen to galley hag and left primary they r in their own world
Take care and chin up
For all of those sending me personal messages please look back at past posts. I am not Cabin Crew, so why all the questions as to how i got in, ask the forum many CC here. Although by the info I get in my P M don't listen to galley hag and left primary they r in their own world
Take care and chin up
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Hi
I was called today to come in for an assessment day. The guy I spoke to said it was for fixed and contract positions.
Sorry I meant to say I am in Perth and that the guy @ QF said they were holding assessment days until the 17th.
I was called today to come in for an assessment day. The guy I spoke to said it was for fixed and contract positions.
Sorry I meant to say I am in Perth and that the guy @ QF said they were holding assessment days until the 17th.
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me too
yeah spoke to QF today as well apparently even though fixed term as per e-mail some regular positions offered as well, inside info has it perhaps language speakers, nurses and police officers...figure that out!, paramedics
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Yeh chinup what do you mean?? who did you speak too?? did they give you the info?? sorry very curious.
Police officers, what customer service skills do they have?............. intimidation..................
Police officers, what customer service skills do they have?............. intimidation..................
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Discrimination....
Chinup....
I dont think that QF would dare specify that they are targeting a specific workforce to recruit for permanent FA positions... Fair enough about the language criteria (as this is a requirement to service the clients), however stating that they are being biased (ie.. police and paramedics) would only make way for a discrimination claim... I'm suprised they gave you any information at all, I have 2 friends who are currently working for Adecco and coordinating the Melbourne recruitment and they have not even been told such a thing, hence the way you seem to be in the know always amazes me... Unless you have friends in high places (ie.. Geof Dixon), I question your facts.... It is my understanding that QF are being completely secretive about their plans...
Cheers
SocialFlyer
I dont think that QF would dare specify that they are targeting a specific workforce to recruit for permanent FA positions... Fair enough about the language criteria (as this is a requirement to service the clients), however stating that they are being biased (ie.. police and paramedics) would only make way for a discrimination claim... I'm suprised they gave you any information at all, I have 2 friends who are currently working for Adecco and coordinating the Melbourne recruitment and they have not even been told such a thing, hence the way you seem to be in the know always amazes me... Unless you have friends in high places (ie.. Geof Dixon), I question your facts.... It is my understanding that QF are being completely secretive about their plans...
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I agree SocialFlyer, they can't be biased and even if they were they can't reveal that to every tom, dick and harry!
Did you get my reply to your pm, my computer is doing strange things so not sure if you got it.
Did you get my reply to your pm, my computer is doing strange things so not sure if you got it.
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I have to say, they CANNOT base their employment on something like that. That is total discrimination and ILLEGAL.
Also, my father is a police officer and they are trained to deal with people very differently to flight attendants. In fact, a woman at my dads work used to be a f/a for many years and has had to go through extra training with the police force to learn to be "harder/tougher" when dealing with people.
I highly doubt that QF would want a ton of ex police as f/a's. I hope I'm not offending anyone out there that is a police officer, but I can't see what pluses they would bring to the airline over other people with strong customer service and first aid.
Also, my father is a police officer and they are trained to deal with people very differently to flight attendants. In fact, a woman at my dads work used to be a f/a for many years and has had to go through extra training with the police force to learn to be "harder/tougher" when dealing with people.
I highly doubt that QF would want a ton of ex police as f/a's. I hope I'm not offending anyone out there that is a police officer, but I can't see what pluses they would bring to the airline over other people with strong customer service and first aid.
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Yes, I was quite surprised myself. I don't have to give names, but last night I found out why they have gone the way they have.
Makes complete sense, good thinking on behalf of Qantas I must say.
I'm not CC, so I can't give examples so STOP getting back to me re: how do u know.......APPARENTLY QF CC are having a lot of problem lately in young CC dealing with terrorism, dangerous articles on planes, dealing with people that are threatening, so they want former police officers to deal with this type of thing, would be employed as CC but police background would give them the upper hand. Nurses, Paramedics did not get an answer but same scenario new CC have probs dealing with emergency cases, so if they r recruiting they want someone that knows their stuff paramedics, nurses etc... logical I must say so if u r a Nurse, Poilce officer get out there and apply.
Social Flyer...your friends at Adecoo would not have jack ---- knowledge they have been hired simply to observe recruiting that's it!
As for fixed term I don't knwo think the guy at QF slipped, but regular long haul positions avail
Makes complete sense, good thinking on behalf of Qantas I must say.
I'm not CC, so I can't give examples so STOP getting back to me re: how do u know.......APPARENTLY QF CC are having a lot of problem lately in young CC dealing with terrorism, dangerous articles on planes, dealing with people that are threatening, so they want former police officers to deal with this type of thing, would be employed as CC but police background would give them the upper hand. Nurses, Paramedics did not get an answer but same scenario new CC have probs dealing with emergency cases, so if they r recruiting they want someone that knows their stuff paramedics, nurses etc... logical I must say so if u r a Nurse, Poilce officer get out there and apply.
Social Flyer...your friends at Adecoo would not have jack ---- knowledge they have been hired simply to observe recruiting that's it!
As for fixed term I don't knwo think the guy at QF slipped, but regular long haul positions avail
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Hope someone can help
Hi, have been reading this topic with anticipation hoping someone will be from Perth and discuss interviews. Am waiting for them to call and getting desperate to hear because I read about everyone being interviewed. I meet all the criteria so you know how the wait can be. Does anyone know anything about interviews in Perth? Thanks for your time and have a great day.
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complete rubbish
chinup,
I have been watching your posts from the sidelines with great interest. Never before have we seen on pprune someone who speaks so much CRAP.
First of all - problems with young cabin crew handling terrorism ? What terrorism ?What the hell are you on about ? You are generalising big time in regards to age of crew. The only terror incident was ONE and if you do some research as to the ages of the 3 other QantasLink flight attendants (working under Greg Khan) who were on board the boeing 717 QF1737 attempted hijack you will find they are all under 30. They acted like heros and dealt with the situation very well.
Furthermore I personally have dealt with a suspicious article on board an a/c and had no problems at all ( I'm classed as young by the way ) - there are procedures in place which we follow and I have complete confidence in how my other "young" colleagues would deal with such an incident.
I think you need to re-think your QF cabin crew recruitment theory
I have been watching your posts from the sidelines with great interest. Never before have we seen on pprune someone who speaks so much CRAP.
APPARENTLY QF CC are having a lot of problem lately in young CC dealing with terrorism, dangerous articles on planes, dealing with people that are threatening
Furthermore I personally have dealt with a suspicious article on board an a/c and had no problems at all ( I'm classed as young by the way ) - there are procedures in place which we follow and I have complete confidence in how my other "young" colleagues would deal with such an incident.
I think you need to re-think your QF cabin crew recruitment theory
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Chinup
Gezz you are so full of CRAP, it is so obvious you have no idea about cabin crew, the airline industry or Qantas and you think I am living in my "own world" PLEASE!!!!!
At least you are spot on with one thing you are NOT CABIN CREW.
Oh really QF are having problems with young cabin crew dealing "with terrorism, dangerous articles on planes, dealing with people that are threatening". Where's your proof? I work for this airline and I can assure you if there were any such problems in this area we would certainly know about it. I cant believe I'm even responding to this laughable post by you its proves once again that all you do is LIE LIE and LIE.
I have been in 2 "emergency" situations and the one time I go screaming like a little girl through the cabin from the back to the front and jump on the CSM's lap and now thanks to the "guy" at QF everyone knows and anyone "young" is suffering LOL!!
Lets say we were to believe you just for minute why have QF just recruited 20 year old's and up for cabin crew and they in or have just completed their training if they cant deal with such situations?
And the "guy" at QF told you all this information SURE he did pet just like this guy told me there is a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.
Like I have said before if you are going to lie at least make sure you know what you are taking about.
Gezz you are so full of CRAP, it is so obvious you have no idea about cabin crew, the airline industry or Qantas and you think I am living in my "own world" PLEASE!!!!!
At least you are spot on with one thing you are NOT CABIN CREW.
Oh really QF are having problems with young cabin crew dealing "with terrorism, dangerous articles on planes, dealing with people that are threatening". Where's your proof? I work for this airline and I can assure you if there were any such problems in this area we would certainly know about it. I cant believe I'm even responding to this laughable post by you its proves once again that all you do is LIE LIE and LIE.
I have been in 2 "emergency" situations and the one time I go screaming like a little girl through the cabin from the back to the front and jump on the CSM's lap and now thanks to the "guy" at QF everyone knows and anyone "young" is suffering LOL!!
Lets say we were to believe you just for minute why have QF just recruited 20 year old's and up for cabin crew and they in or have just completed their training if they cant deal with such situations?
And the "guy" at QF told you all this information SURE he did pet just like this guy told me there is a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.
Like I have said before if you are going to lie at least make sure you know what you are taking about.
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Well said QF skywalker
BRAVO!!
All the people i know who are going for the position plus my ass centre and the few people i saw at the panel interview all the applicants with the exception of a few were under the age of 30, mainly mid/late 20's. So chin up if what you are saying is true why would they bother calling us up in the first place. Sorry it just doesnt make sense. Also a girl at my ass centre who is a nurse didn't get thru to the next stage and if you ask me she should have she was great.
BRAVO!!
All the people i know who are going for the position plus my ass centre and the few people i saw at the panel interview all the applicants with the exception of a few were under the age of 30, mainly mid/late 20's. So chin up if what you are saying is true why would they bother calling us up in the first place. Sorry it just doesnt make sense. Also a girl at my ass centre who is a nurse didn't get thru to the next stage and if you ask me she should have she was great.
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AHHHHHH CHINUP!
The know it all strikes again!
Chinup - why don't u just bug&#r off!!
You're a tosser.
You don't know what you're talking about & are talking absolute and utter CRAP!
Go and get a life!
The know it all strikes again!
Chinup - why don't u just bug&#r off!!
You're a tosser.
You don't know what you're talking about & are talking absolute and utter CRAP!
Go and get a life!
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dear galleyhag.......
u seem to be the only1 who knows what they r talking about.
Well what do u advice me to do in my sitauation give up a permanent ground crew checkin job for an international airline close to 10yrs or go for the fixed term long haul flying?I know what u r going to say but I just need few pointers from u.
Do u think it is absoloutely impossible that they will renew contracts after 11 mnths.
Any hints/advice will be highly appreciated.
PS.any1 with same experience as ghag please respond
THNX
u seem to be the only1 who knows what they r talking about.
Well what do u advice me to do in my sitauation give up a permanent ground crew checkin job for an international airline close to 10yrs or go for the fixed term long haul flying?I know what u r going to say but I just need few pointers from u.
Do u think it is absoloutely impossible that they will renew contracts after 11 mnths.
Any hints/advice will be highly appreciated.
PS.any1 with same experience as ghag please respond
THNX
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Seems very odd.
My understanding was cabin crew are employed because they generally exhibit caring, compassionate, natures.
There doesn't appear to be any degree of that in the recent postings.
It is extremely offensive to make personal attacks on other people. Not only to the individual you are attacking but also to others, who believe they can obtain relevant information on this forum.
I'm sure anyone new perusing these forums, contemplating joining, would feel too intimidated to do so.
Please try to stick to the topic and avoid being offensive.
I can understand emotions are running high in QF where your environment and conditions are completely unpredictable at the moment.
Having lost the job I loved once, I understand your angst.
It can't be easy to decide on strike action when you think about what happened to our Australian pilots in 1989, and the substantial recruitment being carried out as we post here.
Just remember those without flying experience and/or life experience who post here aren't aware of the inner workings of airlines and rely on what is told to them by people they believe are "in the know".
When people are desperate to fly they will listen to and relay information from those professing to be "in the know".
Please be mindful of this when responding.
Cheers.
My understanding was cabin crew are employed because they generally exhibit caring, compassionate, natures.
There doesn't appear to be any degree of that in the recent postings.
It is extremely offensive to make personal attacks on other people. Not only to the individual you are attacking but also to others, who believe they can obtain relevant information on this forum.
I'm sure anyone new perusing these forums, contemplating joining, would feel too intimidated to do so.
Please try to stick to the topic and avoid being offensive.
I can understand emotions are running high in QF where your environment and conditions are completely unpredictable at the moment.
Having lost the job I loved once, I understand your angst.
It can't be easy to decide on strike action when you think about what happened to our Australian pilots in 1989, and the substantial recruitment being carried out as we post here.
Just remember those without flying experience and/or life experience who post here aren't aware of the inner workings of airlines and rely on what is told to them by people they believe are "in the know".
When people are desperate to fly they will listen to and relay information from those professing to be "in the know".
Please be mindful of this when responding.
Cheers.
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Petriboy,
As has been mentioned before, fixed term longterm FA's are ONLY being employed to fullfill operation requirements up untill the proposed LHR base is opened mid 2005.
Given QF have now offered leave over the Christmas period for all longhaul crew it is now safe to say that QF plan also to use them as strikebreakers.
The LONGHAUL FAAA have been given a directive from the membership to do whatever it can to resist lifting the cap on the foreign base crew numbers that would be required if the LHR base is to go ahead.
QF will not renew any contracts if the base gets up as it will be FAR cheaper for "The Spirtit Of Australia" to employ UK nationals.
The contract employees only hope for employment beyond the 11 month period is if the FAAA can block the London base.
QF had recieved 70 applications at the close of applications and are looking for 400.
They have been forced to extend the offer of the "poison chalice" but crew [most of us at least] are not that stupid.
The decision to leave your present employer before the milestone of 10 years is reached is a hard one.
I guess it depends on what benefits are at stake.
Its a massive gamble I know but QF's plan to push ahead with the base comes at the cost of MASSIVE industrial action at the end of the year.
If we can stop it I believe the contractors will be kept on.
L2P
As has been mentioned before, fixed term longterm FA's are ONLY being employed to fullfill operation requirements up untill the proposed LHR base is opened mid 2005.
Given QF have now offered leave over the Christmas period for all longhaul crew it is now safe to say that QF plan also to use them as strikebreakers.
The LONGHAUL FAAA have been given a directive from the membership to do whatever it can to resist lifting the cap on the foreign base crew numbers that would be required if the LHR base is to go ahead.
QF will not renew any contracts if the base gets up as it will be FAR cheaper for "The Spirtit Of Australia" to employ UK nationals.
The contract employees only hope for employment beyond the 11 month period is if the FAAA can block the London base.
QF had recieved 70 applications at the close of applications and are looking for 400.
They have been forced to extend the offer of the "poison chalice" but crew [most of us at least] are not that stupid.
The decision to leave your present employer before the milestone of 10 years is reached is a hard one.
I guess it depends on what benefits are at stake.
Its a massive gamble I know but QF's plan to push ahead with the base comes at the cost of MASSIVE industrial action at the end of the year.
If we can stop it I believe the contractors will be kept on.
L2P
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I GOT IN
Yippy! I got in to Emirates, bloody twits woke me up at 1.00 in the morning with the info that I have made it, but on hold and more information to be sent in an e-mail..........
Guess I have to find out an Emirates forum now....still waiting for Qantas though...no news yet, don't know if I want to go to Dubai, EK have been so disorganised I got interviewed AGES ago and now a sudden phone call, guess when it rains it poors.
Chinup
Try not to listen to many people ont his forum, those 3 ppl that send me constant PM\'s I\'ll direct u to a site where the cabin crew are sooooooo helpful no leftprimary and galley hags, jeaolous useless ppl.
Good luck to u all and don\'t worry about contracts just sign the dotted line, sure there will be work at the nd once they get rid of galley hags and the type.
Guess I have to find out an Emirates forum now....still waiting for Qantas though...no news yet, don't know if I want to go to Dubai, EK have been so disorganised I got interviewed AGES ago and now a sudden phone call, guess when it rains it poors.
Chinup
Try not to listen to many people ont his forum, those 3 ppl that send me constant PM\'s I\'ll direct u to a site where the cabin crew are sooooooo helpful no leftprimary and galley hags, jeaolous useless ppl.
Good luck to u all and don\'t worry about contracts just sign the dotted line, sure there will be work at the nd once they get rid of galley hags and the type.