Will Qf Hire From Short List
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Ozskipper. Yes I understand what you are saying and Yes Im sure you are old enough to make decisions, no doubt about that. If you did your soul search and research into airlines, why did you apply for Qf if you knew what you were going to get into. I.E The short list wait which dissapears after 18months. Pathetic I say. Remmeber the saying. When one door closes the other one opens. I think a few wannabes here have actually taken that step.. But hey, once again your old enough as you say.
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If you did your soul search and research into airlines, why did you apply for Qf if you knew what you were going to get into. I.E The short list wait which dissapears after 18months
I was also prepared for the fact that it might only be a contract position - I wouldn't have applied if I wasn't and unfortunately its less common to be offered a permanent ongoing position anywhere these days. Again, a contract was not what I was ultimately hoping for, but I'm not complaining.
Qantas have only ever said that I'm on a short list for potentially a position in the future - so if nothing is forthcoming then disappointing yes, but this is always the risk when you apply for any job. I'll just apply again when they next advertise.
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I really hope you ALL make it and do what you have always wanted to do. Ozskipper is their any way of calling them and asking them, what is going on Or do they have an answering machine. ?
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Doom and Gloom !!
WOW ..Its good to see that people are positive out there !! I guess what I am trying to say again this is a RUMOUR FORUM and generally things that get posted here are rumer !! Sure some things might be true butr not all !! Not that I have my head in the clouds .. We haven all people told of what will happen to the shortlisters that are left over. If and only if we do get thrown of the list there is not much we can do !! I guess I am happy I have a full time job and do enjoy working in the role that I am doing at the moment but like my friend said they are till on track to comence recruitmant in ju/jul !! Why would they throw us of the short list and then start over agin !! WHY SPEND THE MONEY !!! People stay positve !! What will be will be will be !! Lets face it if they decide to have a crew in Lon and akl and BKK Jet start in australia I guess the people who should be worried is the curent crew !! Lets stop and think about their jobs !!
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I was with a friend who works with a Qantas subsiduary on May 19th when they received the call from QF HR offering a 10 month contract. An hour later, they were called back to say HR had made a mistake. Another hour went by and yet another phone call - this time informing them there will be a round of offers to be made by the end of May for permanent Longhaul. How can you trust them? It must be so infuriating having your hopes raised and dashed so many times!!! Let's hope someone has some definite good news to post over the next week!!!
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HERE GOES THE LAST WEEK !!!
Thanks for that info Dondi !! It just goes to show how things can change not only in a matter of days but hours !! I guys gus this is the last week and I am sure we are all feeling a little nervouse !!
Again I have heard so many things in the last couple of days !! People contacting me to tell me what they have heard !! I have tried to remain positive...some days have been good and yet some days i fell like i am over it. I am sure the other shortlisters what know what I am trying to say !! Since this is the last week I would like to say a big thankyou to all on this forum..for all the information weather it has been positive or negative. It goes to show that even on here it helps knowing there are other people in the same situation and that are feeling like i am !! I am not even going to bother posting any goss here today !! All I wanted to say was GOODLUCK guys and remember out paths have already being written..........GOOD LUCK AND HOPE WE WILL ALL BE TOGETHER SOON IN THE TRAINING SCHOOLS !!
Again I have heard so many things in the last couple of days !! People contacting me to tell me what they have heard !! I have tried to remain positive...some days have been good and yet some days i fell like i am over it. I am sure the other shortlisters what know what I am trying to say !! Since this is the last week I would like to say a big thankyou to all on this forum..for all the information weather it has been positive or negative. It goes to show that even on here it helps knowing there are other people in the same situation and that are feeling like i am !! I am not even going to bother posting any goss here today !! All I wanted to say was GOODLUCK guys and remember out paths have already being written..........GOOD LUCK AND HOPE WE WILL ALL BE TOGETHER SOON IN THE TRAINING SCHOOLS !!
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Hi guys, just to let you all know that I to have been on the short list for Qantas also, since early year. I to got a extended e-mail, till 28 of May.. So time is ticking. Will keep all posted.. I have not yet got a letter. Keep smiling guys..
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PERMANENT Longhaul???? What the?
Dondi, which subsidary does your friend work for?
Thats very strange that HR called your friend back to advise that. Why wouldn't HR just offer it then and there? Saves another phone call.
I will beleive this when and if I get the phone call. Till then, I beleive that we are going to receive the thanks but no thanks letter.
Dondi, which subsidary does your friend work for?
Thats very strange that HR called your friend back to advise that. Why wouldn't HR just offer it then and there? Saves another phone call.
I will beleive this when and if I get the phone call. Till then, I beleive that we are going to receive the thanks but no thanks letter.
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What's going on guys...there's been not much chitter chatter on here today. Less than 4 days till it's D-day. I wonder what's going to happen and when/if they will offer anyone the 10 month contract.
How many people have 'expressed interest' in the contract?
Stay positive peoples...it's not over till it's over.
good luck to us all!
How many people have 'expressed interest' in the contract?
Stay positive peoples...it's not over till it's over.
good luck to us all!
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Agree Melbourne girl.
I feel like a child who has been handed candy and told not to eat it yet! I too am from Melbourne. I hope we hear soon.
The recent posts are interesting about offering permanent positions. I will believe it when i see it. I accepted the offer for 10 months so i hope they take me. I wonder if we will have to complete another interview as well as security and/or medical?
Anyone with any gossip? This wait is killing me!
I feel like a child who has been handed candy and told not to eat it yet! I too am from Melbourne. I hope we hear soon.
The recent posts are interesting about offering permanent positions. I will believe it when i see it. I accepted the offer for 10 months so i hope they take me. I wonder if we will have to complete another interview as well as security and/or medical?
Anyone with any gossip? This wait is killing me!
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Mark Hassell ( the General Manager Cabin Crew) was at an upline forum last week in Singapore, he said that the increased flying would be catered for by increasing productivity and efficiencies by the current staffing levels ---- that we have 'the perfect amount of crew' for our current and near future flying needs , and that there are no plans for recruitment in longhaul.
He also basically said the London Base will go ahead, that current Aussie based crew would be offered secondments there (rather than hiring new crew from the UK), but on 'different' conditions. I couldnt afford to live there on my current wages and conditions, let alone 'different' ones
No-one mentioned contract positions, so that may still be happening.
I beleive MAM will be recruiting in late June for casual shorthaul positions.
He also basically said the London Base will go ahead, that current Aussie based crew would be offered secondments there (rather than hiring new crew from the UK), but on 'different' conditions. I couldnt afford to live there on my current wages and conditions, let alone 'different' ones
No-one mentioned contract positions, so that may still be happening.
I beleive MAM will be recruiting in late June for casual shorthaul positions.
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Q-Tee,
Had EP's today (emergency procedures 6 monthly training) and an EP trainer told me they have been told to expect 300 or so new recruits for training in initial EP's. He didn't know if they were going to be long / short haul casual / contract or permanent.
Mark Hassell has been saying he has 'right sized' the cabin crew numbers recently but obviously this isn't right otherwise they wouldn't be asking crew to cancel leave / work on days off etc. They are desperately short of crew yet again!!
As for the London base, the FAAA have not agreed to any increase in the cap on o/s crew (as agreed in the legal binding EBA). I don't think the company would have any luck attracting crew to the London base unless the t+c's are very favourable.
Time will tell but I think its just Mark pulling info from 'thin air' as he seems to be quite good at!!
Hope those on the waitlist get a call v. soon.
Had EP's today (emergency procedures 6 monthly training) and an EP trainer told me they have been told to expect 300 or so new recruits for training in initial EP's. He didn't know if they were going to be long / short haul casual / contract or permanent.
Mark Hassell has been saying he has 'right sized' the cabin crew numbers recently but obviously this isn't right otherwise they wouldn't be asking crew to cancel leave / work on days off etc. They are desperately short of crew yet again!!
As for the London base, the FAAA have not agreed to any increase in the cap on o/s crew (as agreed in the legal binding EBA). I don't think the company would have any luck attracting crew to the London base unless the t+c's are very favourable.
Time will tell but I think its just Mark pulling info from 'thin air' as he seems to be quite good at!!
Hope those on the waitlist get a call v. soon.
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I received an email today from MAM saying that they are seeing people for possible casual FA positions early June. Not sure if it's for that 10 month contract you are all talking about.
I wish you all luck and I hope you don't keep getting the run around and know what is going to happen once and for all.
Best of luck all
I wish you all luck and I hope you don't keep getting the run around and know what is going to happen once and for all.
Best of luck all
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Found this on the MAM website......
Maurice Alexander Management's Aviation Support Services has been chosen to provide Casual Flight Attendants to Qantas. MAM are now looking for people to join its operations in Melbourne, Sydney and
Brisbane as MAM Casual Short Haul Flight Attendants for the Qantas account.
Not sure how long it has been there or if it is recent.
Anyway,
Best wishes,
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Maurice Alexander Management's Aviation Support Services has been chosen to provide Casual Flight Attendants to Qantas. MAM are now looking for people to join its operations in Melbourne, Sydney and
Brisbane as MAM Casual Short Haul Flight Attendants for the Qantas account.
Not sure how long it has been there or if it is recent.
Anyway,
Best wishes,
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I would assume that if the London base goes ahead (???) then if it enables crew to transfer ( on same terms and conditions) then they may have a few who would like to do it- otherwise they will do the same as other foreign airlines which have crew based in UK and have separate terms and conditions similar to UK cabincrew counterparts. If that is the case and it all goes ahead....they will have no problems recruting for a London base, so long as applicants hold EU passports ( ie. Any UK/Europe citizen could apply).
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Its like the calm before the storm !! only 3 days to go before we get told anything !! I guess it is good so far as they QF would have already mailed us the thanks but no thanks letters!! It is interesting that not all the externals have received the call re the interest for the 10 month contracts.. This is going to be a hard three days!! goodluck !! I to have been told by a friend who works in crewing that qf are realy realy short staffed and with everybody being overworked there is a lot of people calling in sick !!! everybody you speak to says somthing has to be done soon ..Lets keep the posts going !! chats soon!! I to have been told what leemo has been advised !! Its as per usual the right hand dose not know what the left one is doing !! AGAIN!!
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MAM have been emailing registered applicants for interest in an Assessment Centre process.
The email says they are conducting a recruitment process in the next 2 weeks for possible future MAM oppportunities.
The form attached has to be sent back by 1400 hrs EST Thursday 27th. Which seems very urgent don't you think as it was only received today at 1700?
Anyhow I think we can all see where this is heading. Good luck to all who apply.
The email says they are conducting a recruitment process in the next 2 weeks for possible future MAM oppportunities.
The form attached has to be sent back by 1400 hrs EST Thursday 27th. Which seems very urgent don't you think as it was only received today at 1700?
Anyhow I think we can all see where this is heading. Good luck to all who apply.
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A bit of trivia for all interested...
Geoff Dixon spoke today at the National Press Club and used the opportunity to raise the prospect of outsourcing more positions to overseas locations and to express his concern about the 49% foreign ownership rule.
He indicated that these issues need to be debated and given consideration to ensure the long term profitability of the airline.
He also indicated that based on current figures an estimated $25M could be saved if a particular staff group were located in a first world country with first world pay & conditions (presumably he's talking about FA's in London).
The media (especially the ABC) has given the concept a bit of a caning mentioning that QF is one of the most profitable airlines and that its the flag carrier for Australia and it already has outsourced approximately 350 jobs to other countries.
The ASU (and presumably the FAAA will also) have come out swinging accusing Dixon of trying to soften up employee's for the next round of EBA negotiations....
I tried to find a transcript on the National Press Club website, but its not up there (yet)....
Anyway, this is stuff everyone pretty much knows, but on the bright side it seemed from the reports I heard that its not very popular with the media outlets.....
Geoff Dixon spoke today at the National Press Club and used the opportunity to raise the prospect of outsourcing more positions to overseas locations and to express his concern about the 49% foreign ownership rule.
He indicated that these issues need to be debated and given consideration to ensure the long term profitability of the airline.
He also indicated that based on current figures an estimated $25M could be saved if a particular staff group were located in a first world country with first world pay & conditions (presumably he's talking about FA's in London).
The media (especially the ABC) has given the concept a bit of a caning mentioning that QF is one of the most profitable airlines and that its the flag carrier for Australia and it already has outsourced approximately 350 jobs to other countries.
The ASU (and presumably the FAAA will also) have come out swinging accusing Dixon of trying to soften up employee's for the next round of EBA negotiations....
I tried to find a transcript on the National Press Club website, but its not up there (yet)....
Anyway, this is stuff everyone pretty much knows, but on the bright side it seemed from the reports I heard that its not very popular with the media outlets.....
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called QF HR -need a name
I am shortlisted - out of Mel - and got called last Thurs for the 10mth contract. Have heard nothing since.
I wanted to clarify a few points about the contract and tried to call QF HR today but couldn't be put through without a name of the HR person that called me!
I think her name was Louise or Amanda - or maybe I am just imaging things?
I wanted to ask (& will post answers when I have them) would those on the contract be offered permanent work if it becomes available during that 10mth contract?
Are the contractors able to accept casual work with another airline during that time.
Can anyone else remember who they spoke to?Louise or Amanda ?
I wanted to clarify a few points about the contract and tried to call QF HR today but couldn't be put through without a name of the HR person that called me!
I think her name was Louise or Amanda - or maybe I am just imaging things?
I wanted to ask (& will post answers when I have them) would those on the contract be offered permanent work if it becomes available during that 10mth contract?
Are the contractors able to accept casual work with another airline during that time.
Can anyone else remember who they spoke to?Louise or Amanda ?